Thoughts on the "I Drive Better High" principle

[LightTrailz]

While I will agree driving intoxicated is really stupid, driving high can be managed. When I smoke weed and drive, I tend to always drive much slower, and pay attention only to the road. This means people talking around me, are blocked out, and I'm just concentrated on the road. Obviously my ability to do two things at once has been removed, but then again things that usually would lower my driving abilities (not paying attention, speeding, etc) are removed while high, so if you weigh it out it sort of seems like the risk is the same as my normal driving.

I am a fast driver, when I'm sober that is. I don't enjoy driving going the speed limit, but I do know when and where I need to take precaution, and I have yet to receive a speeding ticket, nor have I ever injured someone else driving. Let's hope it stays like that for the rest of my life.

Driving on coke is alright if you have nothing on you, but if I even have a bowl or just a gram of weed on me, I'll get paranoid. Not to mention people will ask me shit like "Mind if I smoke a bowl?" and of course being on coke I don't refuse them, but inside I'm about to explode because I'm so paranoid. I never understand how others can drop the anxiety when their on coke and in a car with drugs on them.

Bold statement 1 . I am very much the same way .. but i also drive a 5spd so i can get caught up driving pretty fast . When im high .. moderatley . not i just smoked 3 bowls and bam into the driver seat kinda high . Ive been told im a much more slower and careful driver when im high , And calmer apparently . i have almost 100 percent concentration on the road and people around me . instead of whats the shortest road i can take and how fast can i go on it to get me to where i need to go . Sure its still a risk . but i will say its a lot lesser risk than driving under the influence of alcohol. Which i will admit is b.s .

Bold statement 2. Its hard but not totally unmanageable either ..

 

[drug related]

the worst i have driven an auto was on oxy at night. my pupils were so constricted i could not see. i ended up just dumping the truck and got a ride back.

 

[donkeyPUNCH]

I drive stoned ALL the time. while it may not be statistically better, it probably isn't any worse either. all accidents have happend while sober, or on another substance that i definatly should NOT have been driving on. all tickets have happened while sober.



next thread: "TheodoreRoosevelt is an all knowing supergenious" as BS

 

[Alfajagdflieger]

I never understand how others can drop the anxiety when their on coke and in a car with drugs on them.

Sad to say but I've driven on coke far to many times, but I'm not paranoid when I do it. I find though that I have to watch my speed, cause coked up I just want to get where I'm going and get out of the car. I really don't think I drive any better or worse while high.

 

[Tiesto]

I have not once said I could drive "better" while I'm high. I've heard numerous people make that claim though.

The difference between me and them is, I "can" drive high. Am I better? Hell no. Should I drive? Hell no. But if the situation at hand calls for it, and its the only option, I will (i'm not saying i'd ever drive if im completely whacked out of my mind, but like, after a joint or something).

 

[-Guido-]

I hear so many people say that they drive better drunk, or high.

In my honest opinion, what completely oblivious and irresponsible people. I think it is disgusting. People who think they drive better under the influence of any drug are just idiots. I don't mean to flame, but it is so irresponsible and foolish I can't find a better term to fit it in one word.

You may think you drive better, but when something quick comes out, like a child running into the street, or someone who slams the breaks in front of you, your inebriation will ruin you.

It goes for all drugs, but I am not talking about maintenance level of drugs, ie methadone to avoid withdrawal, adderall for ADHD. I'm talking about taking drugs to get high, or taking drugs that say don't drive when you take them (such as prescribed oxycodone or benzos).

My thoughts exactly bro. Im glad you brought this topic up because its somthing that needs to be discussed and something Bluelighters with a car and licence have to deal with. I fucking hate it when people are all strung the fuck out on whatever and say "I drive better". They end up going over the lines in the road and just driving like genuine shit because they are either soned to shit, drunk, twacked out, or noddin so hard they are practicly sucking thier own dick. In situations like that I give the driver a slap and make them pull over and let me drive. The only exception to what you said is maintence levels of drugs like you pointed out. Theres a difference between getting high on opiates and getting right or popping your daily dose of Aderral and smoking some meth. I couldnt have said it better myself.

 

[Stainboy]

People's chemical makeup differs so much that I wouldn't be suprised if some people drive better on certain drugs than when they're sober. I wouldn't believe the word of anyone who says "I drive better on..." though and I don't believe that booze would make anyone drive better.

Weed seems to improve my concentration but I doubt I'll ever try driving on it because it probably doesn't improve reaction times. Still I bet it would be safer than when I drove on a weekend of no sleep and started falling asleep at the wheel. Driving tired is worse than being intoxicated on certain drugs.

I really don't like when I go into service stations and see adverts for Red Bull aimed at tired people. Too much stimulants make you jittery, it's hardly a decent replacement for a good rest.

 

[qwe]

I hear so many people say that they drive better drunk, or high.

In my honest opinion, what completely oblivious and irresponsible people. I think it is disgusting. People who think they drive better under the influence of any drug are just idiots. I don't mean to flame, but it is so irresponsible and foolish I can't find a better term to fit it in one word.

You may think you drive better, but when something quick comes out, like a child running into the street, or someone who slams the breaks in front of you, your inebriation will ruin you.

It goes for all drugs, but I am not talking about maintenance level of drugs, ie methadone to avoid withdrawal, adderall for ADHD. I'm talking about taking drugs to get high, or taking drugs that say don't drive when you take them (such as prescribed oxycodone or benzos).

What do you guys think of those who say shit like this? What do you say in reply?

i think that, according to everyone who has ridden in my passenger seat while i am high on marijuana or other drugs that dont impair my driving ability, whether they are sober or high, they agree that my driving is great

how about instead of you calling me an idiot even though you've never tested my ability to drive high, i call people who make strong, bold overgeneralized statements, without testing them, idiots?

^Stainboy brought fatigue up. i'd never drive tired, i don't see why people don't bring it up instead when driving tired causes so many more accidents than driving high

 

[Amebix]

I hear so many people say that they drive better drunk, or high.

In my honest opinion, what completely oblivious and irresponsible people. I think it is disgusting. People who think they drive better under the influence of any drug are just idiots. I don't mean to flame, but it is so irresponsible and foolish I can't find a better term to fit it in one word.

You may think you drive better, but when something quick comes out, like a child running into the street, or someone who slams the breaks in front of you, your inebriation will ruin you.

It goes for all drugs, but I am not talking about maintenance level of drugs, ie methadone to avoid withdrawal, adderall for ADHD. I'm talking about taking drugs to get high, or taking drugs that say don't drive when you take them (such as prescribed oxycodone or benzos).

What do you guys think of those who say shit like this? What do you say in reply?

What about meth?

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

how about instead of you calling me an idiot even though you've never tested my ability to drive high, i call people who make strong, bold overgeneralized statements, without testing them, idiots?

You haven't said you drive better high. I didn't say people drive like crap when they are high, but this attitude of "I drive better high/drunk" is just a rationalization, and not based on reason in most cases.

But touche.

And definately not on meth. Don't need all that adrenaline running through you the whole time as you drive. You become naturally inclined to be more aggressive than normal. While you may disagree, the fact is that your norepinephrine is going crazy in your head.

I've driven on meth before, and know first-hand how stupid it was.

 

[Diego Blunt]

i agree saying that someone saying 'i drive better high' is just fucken stupid, as much is obvious ...

more alarming is that a good driver, who 'drives worse' while affected by a substance ... is still 10,000% better than a shit driver, that drives unaffected. for mine, a licence should be way harder to get ... some of the people i know (mainly women) are fucken disgraceful ... i was once in the car with a designated driver who drove stupidly fast, with little attention or awareness on her surroundings, she saw a cat on the road, screamed and took her hands off the wheel ... causing us to spin out of control and just miss a telegraph pole at a speed that would probably have been fatal ... i could inject PCP directly into my brain and still be a better driver than this bitch (although id be infinitely worse than i would be when straight).

as much as i entirely discourage driving while intoxicated, i'm also appalled at how reckless some drivers are whether they are high or not ...

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

and as for driving better while high... im gonna go ahead and say i do, because i'm a shitty ass driver when i'm sober because i dont pay attention to anything, i'm always looking for something or messing with the radio or talking.. i've only gotten tickets/into mild "wrecks" while sober... hasn't even come close to happening when i'm high or drunk, because i'm super cautious but not too much to draw attention.

I'm sure you are, but if someone in front of you slams the breaks, and your high, you won't be able to react as well sober. You're wrong.

Please don't rationalize for bad behavior and get into the habit of doing it. We all sometimes may get behind the wheel fucked up, but if you know it is bad and only do it when there are extremely pressing reasons for it, then you won't get into the habit of it. But when you rationalize like that, and say you drive better high, when a situation comes up where you are high and would like to drive, but could manage to find another way around driving, you don't. And then your driving high again, and that is unsafe.

Don't rationalize for a stupid behavior. If you know it's stupid, you'll at least try to limit the behavior (if not avoid it at all possible costs!).

Giving speed to airplane pilots is alot different than driving. Stimulants will make you inclined to be more aggressive than if you are sober, and can make you cause some more poor decisions on the road. While technically you may be more alert, you can only be so alert before careening in the next lane will one time cause you an accident because someone else decides to switch into the same lane at the same time.

The suicide lane, makes me shudder everytime.

Don't drive high. It is not smart. It's fucking stupid.

 

[alasdairm]

I drive stoned ALL the time. while it may not be statistically better, it probably isn't any worse either. all accidents have happend while sober, or on another substance that i definatly should NOT have been driving on. all tickets have happened while sober.

from a purely logical point of view, these statements are specious at best. they are moronic.



alasdair

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

from a purely logical point of view, these statements are specious at best. they are moronic.

Correlation does not imply causation!

Logic is a fun class...

 

[Coolio]

I drive better while high (on pot). Sometimes I forget where I am every few miles, but at least I never speed, blow red lights, pass people in no-passing zones, pull u-turns where I shouldn't, or get carried away dancing and talking like I sometimes do when I'm sober.

 

[qwe]

I'm sure you are, but if someone in front of you slams the breaks, and your high, you won't be able to react as well sober. You're wrong.

my point is this. if someone in front of you slams hte breaks, and you're [angry, or sad, or tired, or excited, or anxious, or enjoying music, or having a conversation, or looking at something pretty out the window] you won't be able to react as well as if you were completely focused

why do you say smoking marijuana or doing some other drugs will make you react so much worse than just having a conversation or being tired? granted, certain drugs do show obvious marked impairment, but there are drugs which for many users don't cause this much decline

 

[burn out]

When I see people sweating or shaking from not having smoked pot in a while, then sure, I'd have no qualm with them smoking before driving.

sweating and shaking were common symptoms of marijuana withdrawal for me. that doesn't mean smoking didn't impair my driving, so youre argument fails. it was logically fallacious to begin with since alcohol withdrawal is just as severe if not more severe than opiate withdrawal, yet that doesn't mean someone who maintains a constant blood alcohol level should be able to drive.

even when i was smoking pot every day, it still impaired my ability to drive and i would never drive during the peak of the high. i felt like once in the period after comming down (like a couple of hours after smoking) then i could drive adequately but looking back on it, i was probably still somewhat impaired.

 

[burn out]

It goes for all drugs, but I am not talking about maintenance level of drugs, ie methadone to avoid withdrawal, adderall for ADHD. I'm talking about taking drugs to get high, or taking drugs that say don't drive when you take them (such as prescribed oxycodone or benzos).

i have a prescription for benzos and it doesn't say not to drive when taking it. it simply says "use care" when operating a car or dangrous machinary. so techinically, its perfectly legal to drive on opiates and benzos provided you take your prescribed dose and can pass a sobriety test. of course i dont advise it and i try to avoid doing it (i think the principle of never driving on any drug is a good moral principle for everyone to try to adhere to).

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

I drive better while high (on pot). Sometimes I forget where I am every few miles, but at least I never speed, blow red lights, pass people in no-passing zones, pull u-turns where I shouldn't, or get carried away dancing and talking like I sometimes do when I'm sober.

That's a damn lie, and that is what I am talking about as Bullshit in this thread. No, you don't drive better high. We all do stupid shit, most of us have driven high, but do not rationalize your stupidity. Once you do that, when you come to a situation where you do not need to drive but you would like to, you don't realize the stupidity of your decision and go driving when you can avoid it.

Like I said, when the dumbshit driver in front of you slams their breaks or when someone tries to pull in your lane without seeing you in their blind spot, your going to get in an accident because no, you do not drive better high.

It's just retarded. Please reconsider your attitude.

my point is this. if someone in front of you slams hte breaks, and you're [angry, or sad, or tired, or excited, or anxious, or enjoying music, or having a conversation, or looking at something pretty out the window] you won't be able to react as well as if you were completely focused

why do you say smoking marijuana or doing some other drugs will make you react so much worse than just having a conversation or being tired? granted, certain drugs do show obvious marked impairment, but there are drugs which for many users don't cause this much decline

I'm sure what your saying is true. Many responsible people also decide to not drive when they are angry, sad, or tired as well as when they are high.

You are correct that many things can impair your driving, but that doesn't make it any better to drive high, which can also impair your driving. Logically, this point is not valid.

sweating and shaking were common symptoms of marijuana withdrawal for me. that doesn't mean smoking didn't impair my driving, so youre argument fails. it was logically fallacious to begin with since alcohol withdrawal is just as severe if not more severe than opiate withdrawal, yet that doesn't mean someone who maintains a constant blood alcohol level should be able to drive.

No, my argument doesn't fail. Don't drive high, it's pretty fucking simple. Marijuana withdrawal, while it does exist, isn't so bad as to make you much worse of a driver than you would be stoned. Granted, it would be better if you didn't drive both high or in withdrawal. People going through alcohol withdrawal should probably avoid driving as well, but if they have to, better that then driving drunk.

Your point is irresponsible though. Do not drive high. It impairs your driving (like many other things have a possibility of doing).

How hard is this to understand. Don't drive high. Don't drive drunk. You do not drive better, that is a stupid rationalization. You put people at risk when you drive high. Get over yourself.

People who drive high and excuse the activity give users a bad name.

 

[burn out]

perhaps try reading my post again?