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Thinking About Trying Tar, Instead Of Pills

It still matters. The post above you is good info.

Advice and shit isn't a bad thing, it helps a lot. But you're right, as I said I've made my mind up already.

Thanks for the replies so far. And thanks Captian
 
Akomplice said:
It still matters. The post above you is good info.

Advice and shit isn't a bad thing, it helps a lot. But you're right, as I said I've made my mind up already.

Thanks for the replies so far. And thanks Captian
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No problem man.

I was on heroin for 7 months (9 inconsistent months, 7 months of consistent usage if you took out the breaks and such). I finally got clean, but I can tell you that using heroin is a double edged sword (or you could say razor LOL).

The best sleep schedule of my life (being able to sleep a perfect 7 hours every night and wake up the next morning on time) was while I used heroin. Likewise, every time I woke up was in agony until I could be patient enough and stop shaking and keep still well enough to scrape off powder from the rock (I only got powder, not tar) and get a line snorted.

Then the cycle continues.

If you're already at the stage where you're either using opiates to be productive, or you're being sober and non-functioning, it's a call only you can make.

If you can quit using opiates on an every day/all day long basis, get out of the habit while you still can.
 
Not everyone that tries H turns into a skid row junky.

I've dabbled but pod tea is my thing. I have a feeling that because OC has been your DOC for so long, H won't satisfy. It will get you high and nodding, but it's a lot different than pharms.
 
Akomplice said:
I'm 3 years past that point. Thanks bro
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I used to have a friend who was on iv heroin for 7 years, finally quit and is now an alcoholic.

If you do end up quitting opiates, please don't get started on alcohol, it isn't better in any way possible. And best of luck. You can still quit it and get help whenever you want to, it'll always be there.

If you haven't tried suboxone I recommend it, it's helped plenty of people kick mu-agonists.

If you have, is there a reason it didn't work for you?
 
Have you tried pods yet? Not that they're safer or "better" than heroin, but they're dirt cheap, easy to find, and contain both morphine and codeine, which can be a pretty strong high with the right dose. I've heard H addicts and pill heads attest to the strength of a good pod high. You don't have to deal face to face with ANY dealers, good or bad, if you know where to look, which makes it all the more convenient. Not suggesting that you become a pod addict, but it's more of a "natural" way to go, and you know they're not cut with anything like heroin is, and don't contain apap/ibuprofen.

Oh, and they're pretty stealthy when it comes to consumption, too, unlike shooting, smoking, or popping a pill.
 
i still prefer pure morphine sulfate. its cleaner, and doses correctly. the one aspect of the pharmacutical industry which is positive. there are many options for pure morphine too: instant release tablets, syrup, iv liquid, even lolipops. i trust the chemists product before the dealers potentially cut product. i cannot say what is right for you though.
 
It's pretty bomb. Tastes like shit but I went from being sick as fuck to high in like 10 seconds.

I still like pills more but I'm having fun. I'm actually oo high to be on the computer right now lol

peace,


-Akomplice
 
Thats tightt! You need to find the dose that gets you high but you can still work and shit! IM SO HOPING i can get some tar to plug/snort on christmas/bday. I already binged all my oxys that were supposed to last at least a week and a half =[ oh well haha
 
tried heroin for the first time last night, 'twas tar.

i let it dissolve in a cap of water, stirred it a bit, and snorted it with a short straw over the course of four snorts. i enjoyed it very much.

still had the last half of the bag left this evening, and decided to do it and be done with it. i feel quite nice, but i know that this is something to keep usage on an occasional basis.
 
If i could go back into time. I would stop myself from taking that first hit of tar on foil, from there on i went to the needle. My life hasnt been the same since, The only thing that has every topped the rush i got off that hit was having my first son. You will spend the rest of your life chasing that high. Theres much more to life then that
 
Thanks but you don't have to be condescending.

johanneschimpo said:
I won't bother trying to convince you of anything then. Hit us up after your first arrest or rehab stint. We'll still be here.
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You need to respect other people a little more.

Don't talk down to me bro, but for your information I've been doing anywhere from 160mgs-600mgs of OC a day as my habit progressed.

Lol my first rehab stint?
I've had 4 lol that doesn't even count the times detoxing in the hospital. (The movie industry has great insurance.)

The last time I went to rehab Los Encinas, Dr. Drew was my doctor and all the counselors from celebrity rehab were my counselors.
It was last January to Feb. and I was doing 600mgs of OC and a shit load of Norcos a day.

THANKFULLY I lowered my tolerance. So rehab did do a little good.

I've detoxed in the hospital 5 times, been to Tarzana Treatment center twice and los encinas twice in one month. All for over 28 days.


I don't like tar as much as pills either.. It's alright and it'd be cool to have around when I'm out but I'm not switching to heroin anytime soon.


johanneschimpo said:
I won't bother trying to convince you of anything then.
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Maybe instead of trying to tell people how to live their lives, READ THE FIRST POST IN THE THREAD, or the 5 other times I said I've made up my mind. All I wanted was harm reduction advice, and tips. Some people gave it to me, others didn't.


I have no clue what your problem is but you sit here and say that shit to me, and give your 2 cents.

But one this thread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=229987

"Black Tar What Should I Do?"


You say
johanneschimpo said:
Well, you've mentioned all the options.
I prefer to smoke it, the ritual is good fun
Never tried taking it up the nose, but I hear its better to liquify it and mix it with a crushed inert powder (or more narcotics, such as a crushed OC), let it dry, and rail that.
Or you could put that nasty liquid up your nose
Thats all I know
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Hmm, that's weird bro.


But really, I didn't ask ANYONE to help me get off drugs. Infact I asked you guys specifically not to try to talk me out of it.


So thanks for being such a nice guy, but being totally the opposite to some rookie kid in the same night that has no where near the problem and or tolerance that I have had or do have.


Anyway PEACE


Akomplice.



Thanks to everyone else tho, you guys kick ass.
 
Akomplice said:
Bullshit bro. High prices of oxy leaves it's users needing more money to feed their addiction than the average heroin addict. Price doesn't have anything to do with the heaviness of addictions. They just need more money to keep up.
That's a problem.
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I see your logic, but think it is flawed. You are basing it on the assumption that you will be able to control your heroin addiction. Controlling a heroin addiction is an oxymoron, if you catch my drift.

Sure, if you switch to H, you will spend a fraction of what you spent on pills...at first. What happens when your heroin tolerance increases (it increases rapidly) and you are spending as much money as you used to on pills? You are stuck with a much crappier drug to be addicted to. It will be much more difficult to quit than pills, withdrawals will be worse, you will look and feel crappier. What happens when you can't obtain or afford any more dope? Not only will you not be able to work, your whole life will shut down.

I'm not tryin to lecture you, just giving harm reduction advice as you asked. If you only wanted advice on how to do H safely, all you had to do was search. You should be able to find many, many threads on that. Come on man, let's just be real here. There's a reason people are trying to convince you not to do herion.

I meant to add that if you really want to save money and keep doing opiates, get with a methadone clinic. You will save tons and tons of money, and though I've never been in a methadone clinic, I know people who are in one, and they claim that they "stay high." Plus you will never worry about not being able to score.
 
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Heroin has potential to cause withdrawal after 3 days of consecutive use. Most opioids don't cause comparable withdrawal until 10+ days, some taking up until 20. That is the key that doesn't seem to be realized often enough. It's just that all of the 6-MAM causes such more intense dependence.
 
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