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Opioids The Ultimate Opiate Potentiation Thread

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raznaruk138 said:
the lung, try Black seed oil, I am fairly certain you will notice marked increase in effects when talking 2tsp with your dose.
I have tried the grapefruit juice and tagament, and both seem to potentiate my oc to some degree,very minor, but this black seed oil REALLY potentiates, like many have said the best potentiation of a drug is more of that drug, well, here is an oil that contains thymoquinone that has analgesic and anti-inflammatory properties and works on opiate receptors, the nice thing here is its 100% legal, good for you, and works very well.
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Hmm interesting I have never heard of this black seed oil. I'm up for trying just about anything once so i'll be looking in to this for sure. I will report back with my findings.
 
i think someone here put me onto white grapefruit juice like a year ago. been doing it ever since and it works for oxys at least.
 
So I just bought some Tagamet and Benedryl for when I take some more OC's in the morning. My question is, when is the best time to take one or the other, before the OC's , after the OC's, before eating, 30 minutes etc. etc. etc., what is the time schedule for these two things. Thanks guys I really apprecate it.
 
Rose hips and melatonin... I'm not sure if this helps potentiate opioids, but I know it can help with pain and such. Anyways I know that vitamin C pills made by " NatureMade " has time release rose hips in it, and you don't have to drink a bunch of grapefruit or orange juice to get vitamin C. Also idk if anyone has ever heard of " DRANK " it's suppose to be a relaxing drink, kind of the opposite of an energy drink, but comes in the same style can. I find it at gas stations and such, anyways I know that this drink has valerian root extract, rose hips, and melatonin in it. Melatonin is suppose to help with sleep so I would assume it would help with the nods. Just a little info. that I thought might be helpful, can't say for sure if it helps potentiate opiate effects because I normally use enough benzo's and muscle relaxers in conjunction with the morphine I take. Anyways reply if anyone finds either of these to be helpful, hopefully someone finds them to be. :)
 
^^ maybe its just me, but why in the hell would you want to potentiate suboxone? if you mean make it more enjoyable, i just dont see that happening, i find the less sub i take the better it is, .5mg is about the only dose i have found to be the least bit enjoyable, much more than that and the negative side effects are just too much.
 
^ I agree!! potentiate means [imo] making subs more euphoric. I haven't found anything that will do that. Enough benzos can give you a nod but thats not good enough for me unless its near time for bed.
 
Promethazine most definitely give the pod tea high some legs! Taken 30 minutes after I feel the effects of tea, a promethazine pill makes the high a lot more noddy and longer lasting. Nice!
 
I've tried all the crap mentioned in this thread to get more out of my opiates and, to be honest, nothing really worked (esp the tagamet and benadryl).

The only thing that seemed to make the effects stronger was DXM, and I'm sure it wasn't actually making the opiates stronger, it was just spacing me out in it's own way in combination.
 
I may of found the ultimate potentiater. Low dose suboxone and your DOC. Low enough dose to occupy say 30-40% of your receptors. Like 1-3mgs depending on tolerance. Then the DOC occupies the rest. I swear I can take 4mgs in the morming and 12 hours later take 1 30mg roxi and its like I did 3 or 4. Might only work for those with very high tolerances like mines but I might have to say I swear by it.
 
At one time I had access to liquid Dilaudid HP 10mg/ml ... a few drops anally ingested and then relax with several cups of strong good coffee. Seemed like a good combination.
 
lozgod , i thought it was just me, but i found that to work as well, i only took like .5mg subs. and later in the day a smaller dose of oxy than normal and it did seem to intensify the effects a considerably
 
can u take subutex after takin oxys or is it the same as when u take suboxone? will i bring on the same kind of nasty withdraws or no because there in no blocker?
 
im pretty sure the bupe in the suboxone is the 'blocker' as it as a high affinity for the receptors. otherwise the naxolene(sp?) prevents subs from being slammed. not 100% certain but, im pretty sure.
 
DoseYouAll said:
Promethazine most definitely give the pod tea high some legs! Taken 30 minutes after I feel the effects of tea, a promethazine pill makes the high a lot more noddy and longer lasting. Nice!
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I agree with this. In fact a month or so ago when I was taking my normal doses of pods (I am currently tapering off) I got a 24 hour stomach bug and took some promethazine one night, it really seemed increase the euphoria as well as the nodding. At first when I noticed it I actually got a little worried as I am always a bit scared of combining drugs so I did a little research and found information on several studies where promethazine was shown effective to use in combination with morphine to increase the effects of the morphine. I wish I had bookmarked them now. However, I also discovered it does act as a CNS depressant so I would use caution if combining opiates and promethazine just like combining opiates and benzos. In my case, an hour after taking it I fell asleep sitting up on my couch and was out of it until morning. Looking back, though it did increase the effects of the pods, I personally don't think I would take them together again.
 
lozgod said:
I may of found the ultimate potentiater. Low dose suboxone and your DOC. Low enough dose to occupy say 30-40% of your receptors. Like 1-3mgs depending on tolerance. Then the DOC occupies the rest. I swear I can take 4mgs in the morming and 12 hours later take 1 30mg roxi and its like I did 3 or 4. Might only work for those with very high tolerances like mines but I might have to say I swear by it.
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I simply don't see how this is even possible. Even at 4mg that is enough bupe to fill most of your mu-receptors and prevent you from feeling anything from the other opiates. Also, if I take bupe anytime after I have used other opiates, I always get withdrawals. It sucks so bad, even if I wait 36 hours, if I use suboxone (IV) I always get sick, real sick, however the next day I can IV it no problem at all.
 
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