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Positive The Tapering Support Thread v 2.0

papercuts said:
Mine is magnesium oxide and a little magnesium stearate at the end of the ingredients list. Is yours a different type of magnesium?
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Typo AGAIN. It was 2 grams. Sorry (somehow I typed milligrams the second time too. I’d like to blame autocorrect but it’s just my fat fingers).

I used magnesium citrate. Tastes like an orange peel.
 
Squeaky said:
Typo AGAIN. It was 2 grams. Sorry (somehow I typed milligrams the second time too. I’d like to blame autocorrect but it’s just my fat fingers).

I used magnesium citrate. Tastes like an orange peel.
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For a bedtime snack I had two magnesium tablets, two clonidine, one gabapentin 300, a bisopralol and 150mg THC edibles. I slept really well :) music played all night, I enjoyed that sleep.
 
papercuts said:
For a bedtime snack I had two magnesium tablets, two clonidine, one gabapentin 300, a bisopralol and 150mg THC edibles. I slept really well :) music played all night, I enjoyed that sleep.
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That sounds like a lovely mix for a good sleep :)
The best sleep combo I've ever had is clonidine plus gabapentin <3 But I can't really have that combo any more now that I have a newborn baby, because I sleep way too deeply!!! If I needed to wake up for my baby, I wouldn't be able to! 😆
So it's just sober sleep for me now, and if insomnia strikes then I just gotta cop it.
 
papercuts said:
For a bedtime snack I had two magnesium tablets, two clonidine, one gabapentin 300, a bisopralol and 150mg THC edibles. I slept really well :) music played all night, I enjoyed that sleep.
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150mg thc? Wow that’s a lot! I rarely take more than 10mg, usually more like 5.
 
Squeaky said:
150mg thc? Wow that’s a lot! I rarely take more than 10mg, usually more like 5.
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It's an estimate based on how much I use to make my treats then I take off a third for wastage. In this lot I calculated every 15g caramels contains 100mg THC. I'd love to know how accurate it is, I've never encountered a legally produced edible so it's hard to compare, I could be completely wrong.
I can only go by the general consensus that they are good strong edibles and by my own calculations of the ingredients.
I'd say the effects of two caramels after an hour are equal to vaping a gram or two of flower in one sitting, which I don't usually. Some day I'll revisit Amsterdam and do a proper comparison, find out for sure ;). It's great for sleep, not for socialising because my eyes don't like opening.
 
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papercuts said:
I'm thinking of tackling the green habit by switching to edibles, then the habit of vaping is broken and I might be able to go a night without vaping at all and eventually take a break from that too.
It's nothing serious, still illegal here but noone cares and it helps relax me. I'm just unable to take a break and that's annoying.
As usual I want control over my habits. It's the only thing I've done in the last 48 hours that I'd hide from my doctor, that is progress.
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Right now I would do anything to get help.. 🙏 I take fentanyl patches and I'm in New Zealand they are used for pain, I didn't like the noddy affect I got from doing that so been vaping it problem is, I decided to step down from 100mcg to 86mcg only recently and I have got a nasty abscess under 4 broken snapped teeth, I'm in soooooo much pain I tried to work out the Black Market but couldn't, I know I need a higher dose and more help, as I'm sitting here now, I'm going hot and cold sweats, fever, ear pain fever headache and the public dentist refuses to help me get my abscess and teeth out New Zealand you cant sue, no dr, no pain management no hospital will help me, imagine me don't do drugs nor do I drink, yes I tried them all in life, but here's the drs treating me like an addict, when in fact I'm a pain patient but they all refuse to get my medical records from Australia 🇦🇺 as lived there and worked there as a nurse in palliative care etc, and I am suffering like inhumanely so, I'm still trying to work out black market, but I don't understand it no one here has fentanyl much, cause we are a poor country.. I have been asking strangers for fentanyl because I have end stage liver disease hernia, splenic artery aneurysm and bowel issues and heart issues, the bowel and heart issues are from my decision to try methadone for pain then the day, I accidentally knocked the bottle over and the pharmacist made me lick this stuff off the table, I said that's it, back to fentanyl patches, now my pain is beyond this world, no one I know can help me because drs over here in the public health system won't dare give fentanyl, I was put on it for my back and stomach and came to NZ foolishly because I'm honest, handed my 7 patches over, when I decided to go off them, I left some with my mum in Australia and begged her, does she still have them, she said don't think so, they be out of date, that would not bother me, the pains so bad, even thought if holding the chemist up.. A woman, not drug addicted, in pain, and not one dr or dentist helping me, if this goes to Sepsis, I cant even sue.. So I'm really suffering daily and I so wish we had fentanyl easier here, till they decide in a year, as I have to go back on a wait list, it's so bad here, and it's mothers day and it sucks,all I want and need is fentanyl for pain, the way I chose to vape it actually gives me pain free for enough to do my housework and cleaning, then I'm back in pain I use to get my patches in Aussie and here, every 2 days as my body absorbs it quickly because of my teeth now, and because I'm sick with other things I burn up, so now they my new dr, says no, 3 days, they don't care, cant sue, I'm just what they believe to be an addict so that's all they look at, when will I make it, the pain throbs day and night your so lucky having it on hand, when nothing like that for me, they give me one patch every 3 days, I used to get a months worth I did nothing wrong, I still aren't, I need help, but no one can
 
Ziggysmum said:
Right now I would do anything to get help.. 🙏 I take fentanyl patches and I'm in New Zealand they are used for pain, I didn't like the noddy affect I got from doing that so been vaping it problem is, I decided to step down from 100mcg to 86mcg only recently and I have got a nasty abscess under 4 broken snapped teeth, I'm in soooooo much pain I tried to work out the Black Market but couldn't, I know I need a higher dose and more help, as I'm sitting here now, I'm going hot and cold sweats, fever, ear pain fever headache and the public dentist refuses to help me get my abscess and teeth out New Zealand you cant sue, no dr, no pain management no hospital will help me, imagine me don't do drugs nor do I drink, yes I tried them all in life, but here's the drs treating me like an addict, when in fact I'm a pain patient but they all refuse to get my medical records from Australia 🇦🇺 as lived there and worked there as a nurse in palliative care etc, and I am suffering like inhumanely so, I'm still trying to work out black market, but I don't understand it no one here has fentanyl much, cause we are a poor country.. I have been asking strangers for fentanyl because I have end stage liver disease hernia, splenic artery aneurysm and bowel issues and heart issues, the bowel and heart issues are from my decision to try methadone for pain then the day, I accidentally knocked the bottle over and the pharmacist made me lick this stuff off the table, I said that's it, back to fentanyl patches, now my pain is beyond this world, no one I know can help me because drs over here in the public health system won't dare give fentanyl, I was put on it for my back and stomach and came to NZ foolishly because I'm honest, handed my 7 patches over, when I decided to go off them, I left some with my mum in Australia and begged her, does she still have them, she said don't think so, they be out of date, that would not bother me, the pains so bad, even thought if holding the chemist up.. A woman, not drug addicted, in pain, and not one dr or dentist helping me, if this goes to Sepsis, I cant even sue.. So I'm really suffering daily and I so wish we had fentanyl easier here, till they decide in a year, as I have to go back on a wait list, it's so bad here, and it's mothers day and it sucks,all I want and need is fentanyl for pain, the way I chose to vape it actually gives me pain free for enough to do my housework and cleaning, then I'm back in pain I use to get my patches in Aussie and here, every 2 days as my body absorbs it quickly because of my teeth now, and because I'm sick with other things I burn up, so now they my new dr, says no, 3 days, they don't care, cant sue, I'm just what they believe to be an addict so that's all they look at, when will I make it, the pain throbs day and night your so lucky having it on hand, when nothing like that for me, they give me one patch every 3 days, I used to get a months worth I did nothing wrong, I still aren't, I need help, but no one can
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That sounds horrible!
 
I screwed myself again, and I’m paying dearly for it today. Nothing like sitting on the toilet until my legs fall asleep.....
 
I gotta quit thinking about this crap. Gonna disappear off BlueLight for a couple of months.
 
I’m good.

My situation is getting better. It’s moving at a snail’s pace but I am in a better place today than this time last year.

My aches and pains are subsiding. The pain I associated with my surgeries is the same intensity as a year ago, but the frequency and duration of my pains has been reduced by about 75%. (Meaning that when it hurts, it hurts the same as before. It just really hurts a lot less often). I’m working on cutting back my Kratom usage now too. I have a more usable sleep schedule now as well, so I’m basically sleeping more. It’s still not enough sleep, but at least it’s more.

Those f’ing pills have been causing most of my problems, including pain. It’s been 13 months since I gave up straight oxy. First 4 months with nothing but Kratom, and now the last 9 months with a few days each month at about 300 mg per day of oxy(Percocet). I can finally see the finish line...... almost.

After the first 4 months of zero prescriptions, I was still in pain. Several times per day I would even have an acute pain attack in my foot or leg that felt like my body parts were trying to kill me/myself. But basically I still ached everywhere, couldn’t sleep, etc. All of the reasons to use prescription opiates, and it wasn’t getting better. I went back to pills after 4 months of having none but I changed from straight oxy to Percocet. My tolerance is ridiculous, so I run out in 3-4 days (meaning I’m OFF the pills for about 24 days every month).

Now it’s been 13 months, and I can honestly say that my life is better. Even after the first 4 months without any opiates, I was still in a lot of pain every day. I went from a daily average 8 to 10 on the pain scale to about a 5 today. The pills were definitely causing me more pain than they were solving..... and it took me a year to feel the difference.

The moral of my story is that those pills weren’t really curing anything. It seems they had been creating a problem, then fixing it, and convincing me that I should be grateful.
 
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