Positive The Tapering Support Thread v 2.0

[AutoTripper]

CELERY is very Special.

Please try it. Here literally you have nothing to lose.

Only time prepping, cost of a juicer but blender can be used though I believe undiluted is best, like no extra water.

The price of the organic celery will outweighingly pay for itself if you can just direct the cents there.

I haven't "reacted" to your replies here just now, not for lack of appreciation though.

My life depends on raw garlic too. Every day. 3 to 4 cloves minced on a grating dish, way better end product than any crusher, swallowed on empty tum is powerful stomach detoxer, and incredible respiratory aid. All round medicine.

Must be organic garlic though.

Celery could SAVE you hylite. I believe! But requires decision, assertion, practise and belief on your part. It's more than a lifeline, but the phone needs picking up first.

 

[hylite]

I just made myself some eggs. Thank You Gawwd for eggs. I made eggs with a leftover tomato and some cottage cheese and some fish in wine sauce.

Later some beets and I see a banana.

I actually cooked some eggs right now.

Oh that's right !!! I took an Efffing Norco !!

 

[hylite]

I will try the celery. It is from God. I have heard that before. I will SOMEHOW. I will with my friend Norco.

 

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Thank you for clarifying spelling. I don't even want to open the stapled bag after the terrible gabapentin experiences. Tried four different times with gabapentin. I have the lowest dose capsules. Probably 100's. So I took one and was doing great until it wore off and I got the shakes so bad felt sick and grabbed a norco to feel better and stopped shaking.

Then I tried emptying the capsule without conserving the powder that I dumped out. Didn't think. Wanted to see if it would help my taper.
Now the pain is freaking me out to no end. If I am going to die I just want to do all of my really good drugs all at once as much as possible so that they don't get left behind when I Go !

I told my brother to keep an eye out if something happens to me. I keep telling my brother too that I want to somehow get a life insurance policy for millions so he could have a great old time when I leave it all to him. He just said just stop it because those bastards will always find some way to not have to pay out. He said don't bother because they

ain't gonna give me nothin. NOthin at all. It's a scam. I never got a policy but I wish I had one now for millions for my Bro to have. And I told him I would want him to do nothing but have a good time with it or to have it to do good. I just want him to have the best time ever. But I don't even have one now. My knee's work again. But any kind of pressure

on my upper arms especially the right one feels like it is cracking in a thousand pieces. Even hurts to try to roll around in bed by myself. But if someone helps me move it doesn't hurt. Like I cannot push with my arm. But if I hold my arm without moving it and someone helps me lift up it won't hurt. So there is severe pain and then sometimes

the aching pain that won't even stop when I just lay down. That's when it doesn't hurt to breath yet but yes Does hurt to just do nothing at all and just lay there with tormenting pain, And that's when I find that those last few norco's for that relief just one last time. I was just riding up a mountain on a mountain bike three short years ago and just had

minimum pain when it hit. Now I am ruined. If it is Rheumatoid Arthritis ? and Pre Diabetes then I guess it can be reversed. If it is just the withdrawls from all of the good synthetic opioids all of these years then again I will just sweat it out so to speak and pull through that too.

The bone and joint doctor for my ganglion on my wrist is up next in about two weeks. There is a pain management out there too I have been told. The one I went to got RAN outta the local area. Its weird and painful so painful.

My mom even got a wind at me and keeps saying to me that I might be stroking out. Whatever it is it is sooo painful I keep grabbing more Norco and dosing away the insanity. I hurt so bad it hurts to just lay around, but I do have some peaceful moments like right now because I had a dose because I NEED a dose. But I just dosed a norco again. 1/3 of a 10mg. hydro/325 apap. I do want to die btw.

Or let me put it this way, I just can't seem to be able to live like this or to be able to live with whatever this is that I am going through. If it goes away it will be fine. But I think I was having a bad spell from maybe doing too much of whatever. So I wanted to relieve the pain with more norco and then taper and wean from there. The pain always finds a way

to come back though. I am talking I can't even put a little fleece long sleeved shirt on to stay warm without my upper arms feeling like they are going to shatter apart. I can't cook or cut a grapefruit or wash dishes without getting exhausted and getting the tormenting pain. So I just don't do nothing until someone brings me food or cooks for me or I just grab

something real quick. I have to smoke mmj. to be able to eat anyway because it is a chore. I don't know how to die. But this place (BL) was one of the best places ever. I am so sorry I got crotchety and mean. A lot of it is my upbringing. Don't learn to communicate just yell is so low life. I am so sorry . I love every every one of you With Tears In My

Eyes Thank You.

Also, I know when I read this over, it will sound nothing less than Pathetic but is all TRUE. And I do thank everyone with Love. Without BL I have nothing. I am choking back tears. I am going to try to dab again right now. I have barely even been able to do that. And a hot shower is only even possible with a dose of norco sublingually while in the shower. My brain barely functions.

I am still surviving and at work they try to cheer me on as much as possible. I do treat every day as it might be my last. I told them in six months I will either be alright again or I am not going to make it and I WILL quit. But this is because once those norco's arent' available anymore I could just seize up or even stroke out and die. I am ready.

However the pain makes me cry so hard and then I get congested and makes it hard to smoke the dabs. I know this sounds pathetic but I can't live like this anymore. Gradually it may be fixed. Or not.

The pain is unbearable I promise and is true. This is not something fabricated that I know of. I would not ever waste someone's valuable or precious time for something like this. Ever ! I am going to relax without moving as much as possible by smoking a dab right now. But I promise you I will be just laying around here for five hours until I get

desperate enough to go forage for some food somehow. Please just understand I am wailing out of sheer pain and Desperation. Sorry for all of this I just want to get it all out of me somehow and am still so desperate. I really don't know how to end it all. I am just too chicken and extremely apprehensive of that kind of thing. Sorry.

You describe it very well, that lurching from one day of "not managing to quit" to the next. The only relief I can get these days is to give in and accept I just need opiates, somewhere along the way I messed it up and became this dependant, sometime in the future I'm going to have to deal with that, today I've got something to keep me going without killing me, so I take it.
I know this is no long term solution and I know I have a chronic pain condition that will never heal so I need to keep on the right side of doctors, I need to stop abusing opiates or they will stop working for me and as always I need to not be sick today.
I don't know the way out but you aren't alone in here.
Your brother would never enjoy a single cent if it were blood money directly from your suicide, think how he would feel? Besides you're right, they'd find a vague clause and not pay out.

 

[hylite]

I guess that I should start drinking red wine. But wine and alcohol never got into my brain pathways. Yet. Also I really did give up ALL monster drinks, energy drinks, redbulls. Even if I look at them I get terrified and remember how I could have had a nervous breakdown because I could barely walk and had to limp around. It's gone now. I hope.
But I am terrified of them. Or I don't even know what I'm terrified.

 

[hylite]

You describe it very well, that lurching from one day of "not managing to quit" to the next. The only relief I can get these days is to give in and accept I just need opiates, somewhere along the way I messed it up and became this dependant, sometime in the future I'm going to have to deal with that, today I've got something to keep me going without killing me, so I take it.
I know this is no long term solution and I know I have a chronic pain condition that will never heal so I need to keep on the right side of doctors, I need to stop abusing opiates or they will stop working for me and as always I need to not be sick today.
I don't know the way out but you aren't alone in here.
Your brother would never enjoy a single cent if it were blood money directly from your suicide, think how he would feel? Besides you're right, they'd find a vague clause and not pay out.

No dude No. I am so sick and in so much pain and incapacitated I AM dying. Anyway.

Thank you for your post. I don't know anything anyghting about it (S)

I am not going to cry about dying.

BUT why IS it so painful ?????????????????????????/

 

[hylite]

You describe it very well, that lurching from one day of "not managing to quit" to the next. The only relief I can get these days is to give in and accept I just need opiates, somewhere along the way I messed it up and became this dependant, sometime in the future I'm going to have to deal with that, today I've got something to keep me going without killing me, so I take it.
I know this is no long term solution and I know I have a chronic pain condition that will never heal so I need to keep on the right side of doctors, I need to stop abusing opiates or they will stop working for me and as always I need to not be sick today.
I don't know the way out but you aren't alone in here.
Your brother would never enjoy a single cent if it were blood money directly from your suicide, think how he would feel? Besides you're right, they'd find a vague clause and not pay out.

Please don't abuse Opiates. I Really Do Not Want That To Happen To You.

I tried too. I have nothing else left BUT TO keep trying.

 

[hylite]

We had a good laugh kinda lol because we have one up on them. No they don't like to pay but sometimes they do.
You are right though. Much better not to even deal with those kind.

 

[hylite]

Just one more thing and that's it !!!!

I am being messed with so bad because I really don't take that large of a dose at all. I just take a lot of doses.

I can go as high as 11mg's divided within an 18 or 24 hour period ??? WHAT ABOUT THAT ?????

Omg I can't do this am so Embarrassed. As I should be. But . . . . . .. . . gawwwwww d

oh gawd. i won't even pray.

 

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Please try it. Here literally you have nothing to lose.

Only time prepping, cost of a juicer but blender can be used though I believe undiluted is best, like no extra water.

The price of the organic celery will outweighingly pay for itself if you can just direct the cents there.

I haven't "reacted" to your replies here just now, not for lack of appreciation though.

My life depends on raw garlic too. Every day. 3 to 4 cloves minced on a grating dish, way better end product than any crusher, swallowed on empty tum is powerful stomach detoxer, and incredible respiratory aid. All round medicine.

Must be organic garlic though.

Celery could SAVE you hylite. I believe! But requires decision, assertion, practise and belief on your part. It's more than a lifeline, but the phone needs picking up first.

I love celery, made celery sauce the other day from celery, garlic and potato with some stock, just boiled to mush and poured over other veg or chicken, yum. I love feeling hungry, it happens not often.

No dude No. I am so sick and in so much pain and incapacitated I AM dying. Anyway.

Thank you for your post. I don't know anything anyghting about it (S)

I am not going to cry about dying.

BUT why IS it so painful ?????????????????????????/

If you're actually dying then why aren't you on higher doses of opiates?

 

[hylite]

If you're actually dying then why aren't you on higher doses of opiates?

No one believes me. And I am scared I am going to end up in the . . . . . i.c.u. and die of cardiac arrest too. or maybe i have a deep vein thrombosis.

And when I get my ganglion cyst . . . drained with a needle the pain might throw me into an arrest. . .

because something else happened to me recently about 2 months ago and this is ALSO when this pain started.

I think my heart will cease up when they stick that needle in me. But it has to be removed now too.

 

[hylite]

like the opiates and i refuse to take powder nerve pills or anything anymore except oxycontin.

. . . instead of Valium as a substitute

thnx

 

[AutoTripper]

@hylite great news I know you will like hearing, EVEN girl ya get me lol.


I can't describe how actually fearfully and traumatically sick,mphysically I was earlier today.


By 11 am, I already used about 60 grams kava, (35 to 50 is a day's worth, supposedly to ritualisingly wind down afternoon, evening in pleasure)

And 10 mg's Etiz. Like 12 blue Diazes.

By 2 pm, I need my day's drugs to make those nerves handle anything sensory!


It's a problem.

Because my body has gotten sick from the drugs, over over used months with the vicious Cov hemorrhoids and no sleep, pain etc.


Plus nerve damage. Off clock anxiety.


So I was too physically sick for any more kava, benzos.

Nerves ultra wired by 2 pm.

But celery juice. Turnaround. I made positive lifewise steps, room propoer tidy organise clean way, and more.


Showered first time 4 days. Not me usually.


I had 10 mg's more Etiz single dose, after getting into R frenzy attacking the dire pit my living space has become.


With kava. It calmed me down. And was physically tolerable.




No celery juice, I was a sickun all day night.



I slept one hour, bliss. Awoke loo. Felt less tired than memory serves.



It takes all these things I say, but you CAN do this. Have it figured basically. Choose right. Follow. Trust and see.

If you had say, 45% relief to everything atm, and increasing, plus an unquantative element, you'd feel anewed.

 

[hylite]

I miss those hot baking summers some time ago, but everything changed. - a poetry.

 

[hylite]

@hylite great news I know you will like hearing, EVEN girl ya get me lol.


I can't describe how actually fearfully and traumatically sick,mphysically I was earlier today.


By 11 am, I already used about 60 grams kava, (35 to 50 is a day's worth, supposedly to ritualisingly wind down afternoon, evening in pleasure)

And 10 mg's Etiz. Like 12 blue Diazes.

By 2 pm, I need my day's drugs to make those nerves handle anything sensory!


It's a problem.

Because my body has gotten sick from the drugs, over over used months with the vicious Cov hemorrhoids and no sleep, pain etc.


Plus nerve damage. Off clock anxiety.


So I was too physically sick for any more kava, benzos.

Nerves ultra wired by 2 pm.

But celery juice. Turnaround. I made positive lifewise steps, room propoer tidy organise clean way, and more.


Showered first time 4 days. Not me usually.


I had 10 mg's more Etiz single dose, after getting into R frenzy attacking the dire pit my living space has become.


With kava. It calmed me down. And was physically tolerable.




No celery juice, I was a sickun all day night.



I slept one hour, bliss. Awoke loo. Felt less tired than memory serves.



It takes all these things I say, but you CAN do this. Have it figured basically. Choose right. Follow. Trust and see.

If you had say, 45% relief to everything atm, and increasing, plus an unquantative element, you'd feel anewed.

So you really do know what is going on. See. thnx

 

[AutoTripper]

So you really do know what is going on. See. thnx

Some remarkable events transpired earlier.

Of the immaterial, possibly spiritual healing nature. I WAS beaten, and scared of another helpless cycle of physical sickness and anxiety un-bear.

Celery paved ways honestly by recovering my digestive system. For one.


I was saying to myself definitively, with confidene. I am going to try right now.


I wanted to post...please try too hylite.

But that is patronising because of course you try extremely hard except I believe you are just trying to climb the very wrong trees and following habitual footways which DO lead to death but do not mean that you are going to die just because you are still on some of them.


But you change those footsteps and Direction and simply Focus upon making improvements positive ones I realise is the practical way forward.



Kava too! For anxiety. If you never tried, explore. Like weed, V medicinal, brain chemistry balancing, nerve settling. Sleep aid, pain number.


Just no alcohol.


I don't feel "too bad" lol. In England peeps wud typically say...howareyou?


Yeah not too bad.

Lol. I don't feel too bad.

Wasted after big edible earlier. 25 mg's Etiz. Lots kava.

So not feeling too bad, after that is significant.




Forgot point lol.


If you want to try kava, shout me I give u a link, + more.


I will TRY also to not vanish. Tone down and be brighter.


I want to help you I know I could so just don't abandon hope when you hit
R bottts.

 

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@AutoTripper I've got space for growing veg, can you recomend any type of celery in particular? I need to heal my throat and ear. I know the reason it hurts is because I vape weed, I went a week with only edibles and I was feeling fantastic, but can't do it at home when I can get some, so I need another way to help the pain from the op I had in that area years ago, means it's a weakness now and can't take the smoke or vapors I pass through it without flaring up and hurting all the way from my ear to my throat. I grow fennel and garlic and some herbs already.
Shit I love that feeling just after I've had my coffee and finished in the bathroom, I have my beautiful pod tea. It can sit in my mouth long time, good taste to me, then few minutes later a little nod draws my mind to the waves of relaxation through my body. Relief at last, stunning. Still hurts my ear/throat to swallow.

 

[AutoTripper]

@AutoTripper I've got space for growing veg, can you recomend any type of celery in particular? I need to heal my throat and ear. I know the reason it hurts is because I vape weed, I went a week with only edibles and I was feeling fantastic, but can't do it at home when I can get some, so I need another way to help the pain from the op I had in that area years ago, means it's a weakness now and can't take the smoke or vapors I pass through it without flaring up and hurting all the way from my ear to my throat. I grow fennel and garlic and some herbs already.
Shit I love that feeling just after I've had my coffee and finished in the bathroom, I have my beautiful pod tea. It can sit in my mouth long time, good taste to me, then few minutes later a little nod draws my mind to the waves of relaxation through my body. Relief at last, stunning. Still hurts my ear/throat to swallow.

Hi. I am just now settling after astonishing chiropractic treatment.

T.B.M. - Total Body Modification. Lifesaving stuff. I can only access once every 4 or 5 weeks though.

Along with clinical tailoted homeopathy it has enabled me to beat everything so far to live today.


I have sought every affordable, practical, reachable healing avenue since Lyme made simple life a chess game.

Rarely severe Covid made survival a much tougher chess game and consciousness beyond an Olympic feat to bear.


Accupuncture too, at times. Very worth seeking. Proper chinese guy if you can.

@hylite hi. ☺ Accupuncture and accupressure will help YOU too. Everuthing. Pain, anxiety, allround.

If you can! A step to take. You have been stepping the wrong course. No fault of yours. It's catch 22 and damned hard.


But if you had been my neighbour I would have honestly guided you towards a healing path, right off the destructive one. It's potentially still there.


If I can just rehabilitate shortly, I am itching to really tackle this with you, proactively.

I need to know what's on the table first, by easy inquiry. Say...ahah...oky....right....I see..etc.


Because I have ideas solutions remedies and alternatives in stall.


Please keep faith that we can attempt this together, WELL DONE too for ditching those poisonous energy drinks.


Lol...fucking "energy" drinks! Wotajoke!

Energy STEALING drinks right?

Another joke on free willed humanity.


That is a start.


I believe you can survive. But we need a change of course. I hope we will talk on that soon! Maybe a Zoom call even? Purely for sake of cracking to heart of matters.

Or anyhow. Just wish to help you swing a lot quickly around so the rest can get better.

Find out what you can reach, manage, afford etc, each step. Plan. Action. Results.



@papercuts sorry. Sidecalled haha.


So, growing Celery! Well first, I like Sativa Dominant but ymmv lol ☺

Jk. I never considered it. Diff types celery. I've only ever known of one?

Maybe celery is generic?

I think it's the best plan though for your ailments, and anyway.

Check for best variety if such a thing first. Make it happen! Organic though only seriously.



Also. Oil of oregano! Very repairative to mucus membranes, irritation, allergy and damaged lungs.


I vaporize weed too can't smoke 2005 Lyme allergies stopped that.

But I am still respiratory wise allergic to to the vaporized cannabis so I need to manage my allergy symptoms which a lot dreadfully severe using these methods I report, oil of oregano is an indispensable one of them.

Always after vaporizing weed, I take oil of oregano, Vitamin C powder as Sodium Ascorbate.

L-Ascorbic Acid is too acidifying. I don't suggest that.


If not yet. Take Sodium Ascorbate vitamin C POWDER to soithe, repair those tissues aggravated by vaping.


Also 3 % H2O2 ear drops, kills viruses and decongests. May sooth ear canals.

3 dops 3 % food grade each ear nightly... I am a side sleeper and I alternate sides through every sleep.so for for 9 years now I have been dropping hydrogen peroxide into my ears every single night virtually because it makes the biggest difference that keeping my head clear from mucus congestion and managing infections for a start.



Magnotherapy too! Have you tried? Think will help.


Actually easy use, powerful magnetic healing tool....Magnesage! By Norstar magnetics.


Just taping Neodynium magnets to outside jaw, throat would help pain, circulation therefore healing, anitinflammatory.

Very effective tool f healing and pain using magnotherapy.




Byt @papercuts grow that cekery....Lady?? Lol.

Do it right. 16 OZ juiced empty, morning, zero ingredients added.


It will only help.


10 mg's Etiz and kava 40 mins ago after a strech of vital nerve calming anxiolytics I am dreamy asudden. Will make more kava soon, just rest.

Lol I gone soo hypnotic I forget what I've posted above just now but I hope it is positive or useful to anybody especially right now @hylite and papercuts equally.




Right. Time for me to slip more consciously into that dreamworld now.



WHOOPS. Failed to post this lol. Have next 60 grams kava prepared now, wasted though already.

 

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I need to heal, spiritually, physically, I resist mentally because my life doesn't make sense and if I were more sane I'd need to change it and I like my illogical life, so it seems sensible to not heal mentally too much or I might make decisions to sweep too clean and frick things up.
Healing is good, it's what I want. I feel ashamed to be fucked up by lunchtime every day, I think about changing, then do it, then go back to the drugs for a hug and a well done, you made it alone for a while, glad you're back, I'll wrap you in warm sheets and feed you delicious food, just don't abandon your love again. So here I am.

 

[Squeaky]

Also 3 % H2O2 ear drops, kills viruses and decongests. May sooth ear canals.

3 dops 3 % food grade each ear nightly... I am a side sleeper and I alternate sides through every sleep.so for for 9 years now I have been dropping hydrogen peroxide into my ears every single night virtually because it makes the biggest difference that keeping my head clear from mucus congestion and managing infections for a start.

Holy Crap!!!!! This is the first time I have ever encountered anyone who does this too!!!!

I could talk for an hour about the science behind it, but the short explanation is that hydrogen peroxide dissolves bacteria into certain death. In my house, when anyone gets the beginning of the flu, we put about 10 drops of hydrogen peroxide in an ear and have them lay on their side for 3 minutes (so the H2O2 fills the ear canal all the way down to the ear drum and stays there). Then turn over and do the other ear. We do twice per ear. Almost immediately, 90% of the flu symptoms disappear. You’re still sick but for the next few hours you don’t feel very sick at all, and the duration of the illness seems to get cut in half if we do it two or three times per day starting as soon as the first symptoms appear.

Everyone thinks it’s impossible and ludicrous. But after I talk them into trying it..... absolutely every person has said that it works. I can’t speak to any other ailments except the flu or common cold but my guess is that it definitely would help with anything that is bacterial in nature.