Positive The Tapering Support Thread v 2.0

ouIf your gabapentin is in capsules..... I have opened the capsules and just ate the powder. 1/2 or 1/4 is easy enough to split into piles and lick up the powder. It tastes horrible but it can provide a lower dose.
Beautiful !!! I thought about that again too the dose is too much for me. So I did think about taking some of the powder out of the capsule and taking it half full but I think I tried that. So I even thought of a quarter of the capsule and taking it that way.

But I love your idea so much better. I doubt the taste will bother me. I enjoyed melting a xanax on my tounge and knew the taste quite well.

Maybe gabapentin might be an aquired taste.


Anyway I hurt so bad right now I started contemplating taking a pain pill. I smoked a dab and it seems to be taking the spasms of agony away so far.

Thank gawwwwwwwwwwwwd. I can barely lift my arms up all morning and continuing right now. I did to much maybe. That meaning, I don't know. My arms hurt. My arms hurt really bad damn. And then My right knee used to hurt when it got touched. Now not so much because the pain went up to my arms. Anyone ?

Imho I'm Eff'ed really bad not the drugs but I need the drugs really bad. I am not going to take it anymore useless the pain is so bad again that I do anything to stop it. I don't think it really stops but it is just being temporarily relieved. I'm sorry. Sorry. But my skeleton is crying out for help. Why the immobility from pain. Eff this.

I am going to keep researching and digging for as much medical information as possible. Yeah when I redirect my head to try. Talk about just wanting to feel better.
I wish I could make myself healthy somehow. Yeah, and in the head. If the doctors don't even know anymore then I'm done. But it could be in bloodwork. I am so glad that I had the best life I wanted and had fun as much as possible. I couldn't have even imagined it to be better than this. And thanks to the BL I didn't even take aspirin for years because of CWE. My head is so delayed. I have never felt so terrible. Did you know I would noddd on a hydrocodone that was 10mg / 325apap that was cut in half and then cut in half again. about 2.5mg at that point. Is enough to help stop the agony and it is bad. Honest. A lot of reports of really bad leg cramps like mine were in these covid cases.
But I don't know I have bad cramps. I could be dead if / when it gets worse.

Don't worry I am in denial and am trying to find some clarity of facts and resolve. And I am sure I will always miss Norco's but you know . . . whaat is with this pain.
I am trying to stay calm and not seize up I am so scared. Hmmm.
 
Beautiful !!! I thought about that again too the dose is too much for me. So I did think about taking some of the powder out of the capsule and taking it half full but I think I tried that. So I even thought of a quarter of the capsule and taking it that way.

But I love your idea so much better. I doubt the taste will bother me. I enjoyed melting a xanax on my tounge and knew the taste quite well.

Maybe gabapentin might be an aquired taste.


Anyway I hurt so bad right now I started contemplating taking a pain pill. I smoked a dab and it seems to be taking the spasms of agony away so far.

Thank gawwwwwwwwwwwwd. I can barely lift my arms up all morning and continuing right now. I did to much maybe. That meaning, I don't know. My arms hurt. My arms hurt really bad damn. And then My right knee used to hurt when it got touched. Now not so much because the pain went up to my arms. Anyone ?

Imho I'm Eff'ed really bad not the drugs but I need the drugs really bad. I am not going to take it anymore useless the pain is so bad again that I do anything to stop it. I don't think it really stops but it is just being temporarily relieved. I'm sorry. Sorry. But my skeleton is crying out for help. Why the immobility from pain. Eff this.

I am going to keep researching and digging for as much medical information as possible. Yeah when I redirect my head to try. Talk about just wanting to feel better.
I wish I could make myself healthy somehow. Yeah, and in the head. If the doctors don't even know anymore then I'm done. But it could be in bloodwork. I am so glad that I had the best life I wanted and had fun as much as possible. I couldn't have even imagined it to be better than this. And thanks to the BL I didn't even take aspirin for years because of CWE. My head is so delayed. I have never felt so terrible. Did you know I would noddd on a hydrocodone that was 10mg / 325apap that was cut in half and then cut in half again. about 2.5mg at that point. Is enough to help stop the agony and it is bad. Honest. A lot of reports of really bad leg cramps like mine were in these covid cases.
But I don't know I have bad cramps. I could be dead if / when it gets worse.

Don't worry I am in denial and am trying to find some clarity of facts and resolve. And I am sure I will always miss Norco's but you know . . . whaat is with this pain.
I am trying to stay calm and not seize up I am so scared. Hmmm.
I think opiate wd’s cause some sort of swelling in your spinal cord. It makes me feel like everything hurts A LOT.
It goes away, but it feels like forever. Sucks too because it sets in really fast and disappears a few minutes after a pill. It confused me into thinking that it’s real pain, which meant the pills were my salvation. The reality is that they were the devil in a tiny package.
 
I think opiate wd’s cause some sort of swelling in your spinal cord. It makes me feel like everything hurts A LOT.
It goes away, but it feels like forever. Sucks too because it sets in really fast and disappears a few minutes after a pill. It confused me into thinking that it’s real pain, which meant the pills were my salvation. The reality is that they were the devil in a tiny package.
Ohh thank you Gawwd. 😭😭😭😭
I got this I got this I GOT THIS okay I have this you I can do this.

So that is what you were trying to tell me before. I tried and tried and tried to understand but couldn't understand it.

NOw I have this. Thank you @Squeaky . You did it. A doctor couldn't have said it that well and thank you.

See BL you are always here and you did it AGAIN. <3<3<3<3😭

The aspirin definitely seemed to affect me as soon as I stopped the cwe.
 
Okay I have to take something and taper the correct way this time. I took a big dose to get through this
work thing. And I pulled it off. Somehow. And when I have been on the road recently this past my leg
yeah cramped up when I was driving. So bad.

So I need to taper back down to low. I don't know I am trying to hold out as long as possible. Oh gawd it hurts right now.

I still didn't take anything.
 
Omg. I am taking something. And then eating some pasta. That is if I can twist the noodles with my fork and swallow.

I have to use mmj to help me get my food down too. My arms won't work that well r.n.
 
Omg. I am taking something. And then eating some pasta. That is if I can twist the noodles with my fork and swallow.

I have to use mmj to help me get my food down too. My arms won't work that well r.n.
Don’t give up! It’s 4-7 days to begin getting used to a new schedule. You might do well if you write down everything you use for the next few days and try to make it as consistent/regular as possible. Maybe if you can get to where you’re taking your meds because it’s time to do it (instead of taking them as a reaction to your suffering) it will eventually get easier to taper down.

Holding off as long as I could stand it, then finally using my pills after several hours of misery, only led to binging and taking a lot more than I would have if I had allowed myself to take some when it wasn’t bad yet. Then I
 
PregabPrednisone
are these pregabalin and prednisone combined or separate?
If ya have pregabalin it is supposed to be able to "mask" opiate with withdrawals fairly well. I have pregab but rarely take it but when I do its nice.
If ya never took it or it has been a while start low as it gives me the shakes and jerks if my tolerance is low and I dose to high (400-500mg for me).
If its pregabalin dose ~100-200mg if tolerance is low or non existent. Well... I got pregab after kickin a bunch of shit so never tried it to kick. Just a lot of members here swear by it.
Pregabali is like gabapentins bigger brother (body uses ~30% of gabapentin abd pregabalin is ~95 or more iirc). To me it is cleaner feeling as dosing a bunch of gabapentin would give me the "gritty" feel; like I came from the beach or something. Not sure how to describe it atm. ;)
gabapentin made me get the shakes so bad one tim
At what dose was this... if ya can remember?
High doses of this stuff is known for makin a mf spas out. :p
Didnt know you were going through this, love. Sorry to read about it but atbleast I know frim whence some of the "angst" in your postings elsewhere. Its hell. Most any wd is torturing ourselves and tbh it reminds me of how f-in stupid I was to fall in a hole again. The insight of hindsight makese sick and makes the wds just that much worse cause I am (was) a bumb ass mf AGAIN.
@Squeaky
Good stuff posting. Appears wisdom, knowledge and experience is stitched throughout your posts.
Hi. Nice to "meet" ya after all this time. Dont think I've had the pleasure to make your aquaintence. So all the smalltak is out of the way; I love you and enjoy chewing up what yer spittin out. As said! good stuff.
Thanks for being here, sharing and aiding in the easment of others ills. This is priceless and a more nobel effort seems unatainable. Just my opinion, anyway.
Forgive the writeup, family. I can get carried away and verbose at times. Mostly when I am stressed and trying to ignore/avoid an "issue". ATM thebissue is a broken rib (today) that is startin to get on my nerves and know it will be doing so for months to come....
Be back in a bit.
Apreciate and love all of yas.
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yes i am sure it is the big bro of gabapentin i haven' t even tore open the bag of it yet.
but the gaba sure was dirty and the lowest dose possible even. like the 100's or the
beginning doses. I hate it ya know. So I don't mess with garbage prescriptions.
Unless it is Norco type.
 
I have had both Pregablin and Gabapentin. Pregablin 3 big brother. And pregablin gave me really shaky hands too (although I was using it with alcohol and Kratom). Mostly the next morning. Alcohol hangover + Pregablin hangover + Kratom + Coffee = shaking like a leaf.
 
I have had both Pregablin and Gabapentin. Pregablin 3 big brother. And pregablin gave me really shaky hands too (although I was using it with alcohol and Kratom). Mostly the next morning. Alcohol hangover + Pregablin hangover + Kratom + Coffee = shaking like a leaf.
Thank you for clarifying spelling. I don't even want to open the stapled bag after the terrible gabapentin experiences. Tried four different times with gabapentin. I have the lowest dose capsules. Probably 100's. So I took one and was doing great until it wore off and I got the shakes so bad felt sick and grabbed a norco to feel better and stopped shaking.

Then I tried emptying the capsule without conserving the powder that I dumped out. Didn't think. Wanted to see if it would help my taper.
Now the pain is freaking me out to no end. If I am going to die I just want to do all of my really good drugs all at once as much as possible so that they don't get left behind when I Go !

I told my brother to keep an eye out if something happens to me. I keep telling my brother too that I want to somehow get a life insurance policy for millions so he could have a great old time when I leave it all to him. He just said just stop it because those bastards will always find some way to not have to pay out. He said don't bother because they

ain't gonna give me nothin. NOthin at all. It's a scam. I never got a policy but I wish I had one now for millions for my Bro to have. And I told him I would want him to do nothing but have a good time with it or to have it to do good. I just want him to have the best time ever. But I don't even have one now. My knee's work again. But any kind of pressure

on my upper arms especially the right one feels like it is cracking in a thousand pieces. Even hurts to try to roll around in bed by myself. But if someone helps me move it doesn't hurt. Like I cannot push with my arm. But if I hold my arm without moving it and someone helps me lift up it won't hurt. So there is severe pain and then sometimes

the aching pain that won't even stop when I just lay down. That's when it doesn't hurt to breath yet but yes Does hurt to just do nothing at all and just lay there with tormenting pain, And that's when I find that those last few norco's for that relief just one last time. I was just riding up a mountain on a mountain bike three short years ago and just had

minimum pain when it hit. Now I am ruined. If it is Rheumatoid Arthritis ? and Pre Diabetes then I guess it can be reversed. If it is just the withdrawls from all of the good synthetic opioids all of these years then again I will just sweat it out so to speak and pull through that too.

The bone and joint doctor for my ganglion on my wrist is up next in about two weeks. There is a pain management out there too I have been told. The one I went to got RAN outta the local area. Its weird and painful so painful.

My mom even got a wind at me and keeps saying to me that I might be stroking out. Whatever it is it is sooo painful I keep grabbing more Norco and dosing away the insanity. I hurt so bad it hurts to just lay around, but I do have some peaceful moments like right now because I had a dose because I NEED a dose. But I just dosed a norco again. 1/3 of a 10mg. hydro/325 apap. I do want to die btw.

Or let me put it this way, I just can't seem to be able to live like this or to be able to live with whatever this is that I am going through. If it goes away it will be fine. But I think I was having a bad spell from maybe doing too much of whatever. So I wanted to relieve the pain with more norco and then taper and wean from there. The pain always finds a way

to come back though. I am talking I can't even put a little fleece long sleeved shirt on to stay warm without my upper arms feeling like they are going to shatter apart. I can't cook or cut a grapefruit or wash dishes without getting exhausted and getting the tormenting pain. So I just don't do nothing until someone brings me food or cooks for me or I just grab

something real quick. I have to smoke mmj. to be able to eat anyway because it is a chore. I don't know how to die. But this place (BL) was one of the best places ever. I am so sorry I got crotchety and mean. A lot of it is my upbringing. Don't learn to communicate just yell is so low life. I am so sorry . I love every every one of you With Tears In My

Eyes Thank You.

Also, I know when I read this over, it will sound nothing less than Pathetic but is all TRUE. And I do thank everyone with Love. Without BL I have nothing. I am choking back tears. I am going to try to dab again right now. I have barely even been able to do that. And a hot shower is only even possible with a dose of norco sublingually while in the shower. My brain barely functions.

I am still surviving and at work they try to cheer me on as much as possible. I do treat every day as it might be my last. I told them in six months I will either be alright again or I am not going to make it and I WILL quit. But this is because once those norco's arent' available anymore I could just seize up or even stroke out and die. I am ready.

However the pain makes me cry so hard and then I get congested and makes it hard to smoke the dabs. I know this sounds pathetic but I can't live like this anymore. Gradually it may be fixed. Or not.

The pain is unbearable I promise and is true. This is not something fabricated that I know of. I would not ever waste someone's valuable or precious time for something like this. Ever ! I am going to relax without moving as much as possible by smoking a dab right now. But I promise you I will be just laying around here for five hours until I get

desperate enough to go forage for some food somehow. Please just understand I am wailing out of sheer pain and Desperation. Sorry for all of this I just want to get it all out of me somehow and am still so desperate. I really don't know how to end it all. I am just too chicken and extremely apprehensive of that kind of thing. Sorry.
 
Thank you for clarifying spelling. I don't even want to open the stapled bag after the terrible gabapentin experiences. Tried four different times with gabapentin. I have the lowest dose capsules. Probably 100's. So I took one and was doing great until it wore off and I got the shakes so bad felt sick and grabbed a norco to feel better and stopped shaking.

Then I tried emptying the capsule without conserving the powder that I dumped out. Didn't think. Wanted to see if it would help my taper.
Now the pain is freaking me out to no end. If I am going to die I just want to do all of my really good drugs all at once as much as possible so that they don't get left behind when I Go !

I told my brother to keep an eye out if something happens to me. I keep telling my brother too that I want to somehow get a life insurance policy for millions so he could have a great old time when I leave it all to him. He just said just stop it because those bastards will always find some way to not have to pay out. He said don't bother because they

ain't gonna give me nothin. NOthin at all. It's a scam. I never got a policy but I wish I had one now for millions for my Bro to have. And I told him I would want him to do nothing but have a good time with it or to have it to do good. I just want him to have the best time ever. But I don't even have one now. My knee's work again. But any kind of pressure

on my upper arms especially the right one feels like it is cracking in a thousand pieces. Even hurts to try to roll around in bed by myself. But if someone helps me move it doesn't hurt. Like I cannot push with my arm. But if I hold my arm without moving it and someone helps me lift up it won't hurt. So there is severe pain and then sometimes

the aching pain that won't even stop when I just lay down. That's when it doesn't hurt to breath yet but yes Does hurt to just do nothing at all and just lay there with tormenting pain, And that's when I find that those last few norco's for that relief just one last time. I was just riding up a mountain on a mountain bike three short years ago and just had

minimum pain when it hit. Now I am ruined. If it is Rheumatoid Arthritis ? and Pre Diabetes then I guess it can be reversed. If it is just the withdrawls from all of the good synthetic opioids all of these years then again I will just sweat it out so to speak and pull through that too.

The bone and joint doctor for my ganglion on my wrist is up next in about two weeks. There is a pain management out there too I have been told. The one I went to got RAN outta the local area. Its weird and painful so painful.

My mom even got a wind at me and keeps saying to me that I might be stroking out. Whatever it is it is sooo painful I keep grabbing more Norco and dosing away the insanity. I hurt so bad it hurts to just lay around, but I do have some peaceful moments like right now because I had a dose because I NEED a dose. But I just dosed a norco again. 1/3 of a 10mg. hydro/325 apap. I do want to die btw.

Or let me put it this way, I just can't seem to be able to live like this or to be able to live with whatever this is that I am going through. If it goes away it will be fine. But I think I was having a bad spell from maybe doing too much of whatever. So I wanted to relieve the pain with more norco and then taper and wean from there. The pain always finds a way

to come back though. I am talking I can't even put a little fleece long sleeved shirt on to stay warm without my upper arms feeling like they are going to shatter apart. I can't cook or cut a grapefruit or wash dishes without getting exhausted and getting the tormenting pain. So I just don't do nothing until someone brings me food or cooks for me or I just grab

something real quick. I have to smoke mmj. to be able to eat anyway because it is a chore. I don't know how to die. But this place (BL) was one of the best places ever. I am so sorry I got crotchety and mean. A lot of it is my upbringing. Don't learn to communicate just yell is so low life. I am so sorry . I love every every one of you With Tears In My

Eyes Thank You.

Also, I know when I read this over, it will sound nothing less than Pathetic but is all TRUE. And I do thank everyone with Love. Without BL I have nothing. I am choking back tears. I am going to try to dab again right now. I have barely even been able to do that. And a hot shower is only even possible with a dose of norco sublingually while in the shower. My brain barely functions.

I am still surviving and at work they try to cheer me on as much as possible. I do treat every day as it might be my last. I told them in six months I will either be alright again or I am not going to make it and I WILL quit. But this is because once those norco's arent' available anymore I could just seize up or even stroke out and die. I am ready.

However the pain makes me cry so hard and then I get congested and makes it hard to smoke the dabs. I know this sounds pathetic but I can't live like this anymore. Gradually it may be fixed. Or not.

The pain is unbearable I promise and is true. This is not something fabricated that I know of. I would not ever waste someone's valuable or precious time for something like this. Ever ! I am going to relax without moving as much as possible by smoking a dab right now. But I promise you I will be just laying around here for five hours until I get

desperate enough to go forage for some food somehow. Please just understand I am wailing out of sheer pain and Desperation. Sorry for all of this I just want to get it all out of me somehow and am still so desperate. I really don't know how to end it all. I am just too chicken and extremely apprehensive of that kind of thing. Sorry.
Hey. Im in a pickle myself so I can relate fully to your every expression and emotion.

I might be able to get myself out of this pickle, it could just be ultimate rock bottom (I've been down to "real" and "true" already never realised there was still an ultimate version a ledge below)

I've no energy though, I actually need to jabberwocky for my own mental and physical sake right now but I saw a pleasant mod we know describe the actual process as a real hassle for them.

It's complicated but my going forwards may depend upon it. I will give a few days, I see a chiropractor tomorrow for a specialised treatment, after which I may just be able to scrape through and pull up.


So I'm no help to a soul presently. But Celery juice hylite! Honestly if you possibly can, give it a whirl.

For everything that ails you. Just start there, move and adjust the rest in tandem gradually or as you learn, realise and feel different, better.

I messed up so many times, too many. It is a long stort haha not even worth telling without a happy ending.

Nutshell version? Mmm.


Dunno. Lol. Bad week major crash full on insanity and I believe (not confirmed but as probable as anything else for me atm) a local Church visit on Sunday resulted in another youknowotsit contraction, really knocking the wheels off the cart I am trying to get going as a perfect analogy, loads more stuff on top.

I planned not to make celery juice today. I was really properly sick though.

I made one. It has helped. I am now constructing ways to move on up.

No celery juice 30 minutes ago I would just be pigsick now still and hating it with zero focus or coping mechanisms.


It may take a while to get substantial results but benefits are immediate and the healing potential if you follow the path is extraordinary.


I started it too late, just last two weeks, but who knows it may prove to be just in time.

I am sorry i've not been able to help you more, or at all.

But please consider this (the celery). It's actually very easy. Not unpleasant. Extremely beneficial. So worth doing.

I view myself as fortunate I was able to reach, make and taks that medicine today. I felt sicker than death.

I am calculating options now at least.
 
I love pickles cause you is. Okay now I will read the rest. AND . . . . I WAS just getting ready to get pickled too !!
 
Hey. Im in a pickle myself so I can relate fully to your every expression and emotion.

I might be able to get myself out of this pickle, it could just be ultimate rock bottom (I've been down to "real" and "true" already never realised there was still an ultimate version a ledge below)

I've no energy though, I actually need to jabberwocky for my own mental and physical sake right now but I saw a pleasant mod we know describe the actual process as a real hassle for them.

It's complicated but my going forwards may depend upon it. I will give a few days, I see a chiropractor tomorrow for a specialised treatment, after which I may just be able to scrape through and pull up.


So I'm no help to a soul presently. But Celery juice hylite! Honestly if you possibly can, give it a whirl.

For everything that ails you. Just start there, move and adjust the rest in tandem gradually or as you learn, realise and feel different, better.

I messed up so many times, too many. It is a long stort haha not even worth telling without a happy ending.

Nutshell version? Mmm.


Dunno. Lol. Bad week major crash full on insanity and I believe (not confirmed but as probable as anything else for me atm) a local Church visit on Sunday resulted in another youknowotsit contraction, really knocking the wheels off the cart I am trying to get going as a perfect analogy, loads more stuff on top.

I planned not to make celery juice today. I was really properly sick though.

I made one. It has helped. I am now constructing ways to move on up.

No celery juice 30 minutes ago I would just be pigsick now still and hating it with zero focus or coping mechanisms.


It may take a while to get substantial results but benefits are immediate and the healing potential if you follow the path is extraordinary.


I started it too late, just last two weeks, but who knows it may prove to be just in time.

I am sorry i've not been able to help you more, or at all.

But please consider this (the celery). It's actually very easy. Not unpleasant. Extremely beneficial. So worth doing.

I view myself as fortunate I was able to reach, make and taks that medicine today. I felt sicker than death.

I am calculating options now at least.
i fuckin can't even get to the starting point I AM TRYING
 
Oh my moms found a cure for someone's terrible soar throat and cold one time IN ONLY TEN MINUTES !!!!!!!!

A cup of fresh garlic juice gulped right down. TRUE STORY. I couldn't even make that up to lie about it. Honest.
 
And you went BEYOND helping me. You CONFIRMED. Evil dead keeps getting in the way though. I swear.
 
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