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For the price of 5 full-size Bics at the store, I ordered 100 cheapo lighters online, which IME actually work better for these purposes than more expensive lighters do. (I use foil, not a pipe, but it the principle seems the same.)

In the first place, these lighters are adjustable, making it a lot easier to control how fast the drugs are vaporizing/burning up.

Since they're kind of crappy, the flame strength varies wildly between lighters. This turns out to be an advantage, since maybe 1 in 5 of them have a very low flame — barely visible at its smallest — that is perfect for shards, IMHO.
 
omegaphats said:
Aside from a stem I've only used a glass weed pipe a handful of times. A chick I knew her geek was after every hit she would scrap out her pipe, everyone has a geek lol
Did you clear the hit every time or was there a decent amount of residue after?
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Pretty much, yes. I can imagine that with a larger size it might be difficult to handle it. But the one footer I’ve used seems just right.

I’ve definitely been around folks who compulsively scrape their pipes basically the entire time they are smoking. Kind of funny, yet kind of annoying too.
 
It does seem that way. I remember when I was teenager me and all my friends would buy like 2-3 points and it would last all weekend. Didn't do it for like 8 years and when I came back I couldn't believe how 1) cheap it was, right now its 30-40% the price it used to be. But also, the amounts people do is crazy. People talk about doing a gram in a night all to themselves! Never been completely sure if its just a tolerance thing or if quality is down. Probably both. I have heard about meth having somewhat of a permanent tolerance. Like you don't do any for years, and even still that original high doesn't come back.
 
G_Chem said:
You’re thinking of neurogenesis from low doses of meth. You aren’t unlocking necessarily as creating new neurons.

Smoking meth is the wrong way to go as the chances of using larger than low doses is very high. To get neurogenesis my guesstimate is 5mg or less orally, once in a great while to avoid addiction which would nullify all positive neurogenic gains.

-GC
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And they're not dopaminergic neurons, they're dentate granule cell neurons located in the dentate gyrus / hippocampus which are responsible for learning/memory/cognition etc. They're not specific to any certain ROA from the literature I've read. As for the dosages involved, it's actually more than you would think: Neurogenic doses range from 5-200mg. Yes, you read that right, up to 200mg. Now, just because a dose is neurogenic doesn't mean it's non-neurotoxic! To avoid neurotoxicity I would stay below 100mg (more like below 50mg).

Be careful @Hugs For Drugs, you mentioned previous bouts of psychosis, and psychosis isn't anything to play with. I wouldn't touch meth at all if I were you. Psychosis can get real problematic real fast. There are plenty of other ways to stimulate neurogenesis: vigorous exercise, soaking for prolonged periods in a hot bath, eating certain foods, learning challenging concepts. All will help stimulate neurogenesis. With your prior history of psychosis I'd leave meth alone and focus on something less dangerous in your neurogenic quests.

A few good read(s) on neurogenesis:
https://www.verywellmind.com/adult-neurogenesis-can-we-grow-new-brain-cells-2794885 https://selfhacked.com/blog/ways-increase-neurogenesis/
 
acklac7 said:
And they're not dopaminergic neurons, they're dentate granule cell neurons located in the dentate gyrus / hippocampus which are responsible for learning/memory/cognition etc. They're not specific to any certain ROA from the literature I've read. As for the dosages involved, it's actually more than you would think: Neurogenic doses range from 5-200mg. Yes, you read that right, up to 200mg. Now, just because a dose is neurogenic doesn't mean it's non-neurotoxic! To avoid neurotoxicity I would stay below 100mg (more like below 50mg).

Be careful @Hugs For Drugs, you mentioned previous bouts of psychosis, and psychosis isn't anything to play with. I wouldn't touch meth at all if I were you. Psychosis can get real problematic real fast. There are plenty of other ways to stimulate neurogenesis: vigorous exercise, soaking for prolonged periods in a hot bath, eating certain foods, learning challenging concepts. All will help stimulate neurogenesis. With your prior history of psychosis I'd leave meth alone and focus on something less dangerous in your neurogenic quests.

A few good read(s) on neurogenesis:
https://www.verywellmind.com/adult-neurogenesis-can-we-grow-new-brain-cells-2794885 https://selfhacked.com/blog/ways-increase-neurogenesis/
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How can neurogenesis and neurotoxicity coexist?

-GC
 
From the countless hours of researching it honestly just sounds like the market is flooded with low quality goods. Whether it being poorly synthesized, having too much levo, or it being cut with whatever they chose to throw in there on that day. Had a lab drug test done last week. They called and informed me it was positive for meth and amphetamines nothing else at all. So ????
 
DieselNDope said:
From the countless hours of researching it honestly just sounds like the market is flooded with low quality goods. Whether it being poorly synthesized, having too much levo, or it being cut with whatever they chose to throw in there on that day. Had a lab drug test done last week. They called and informed me it was positive for meth and amphetamines nothing else at all. So ????
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What else would you expect to be positive for? It's not like they cut meth with PCP or anything.

I remember when I used to buy my shit, everyone's like "this stuff is fire, gas, long legs".. then every hundred reviews you get someone who knows what they're talking about and goes "this shit is trash". I tried about 25 different batches and not one was anything to write home about.

This was about 5 years ago.
 
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From page 19 of the DEA's 2020 National Drug Threat Assessment (having trouble posting the link, just google it)

Of course this is only a US source, so worldwide it may not be the case. But i still see US based tweakers saying this... perhaps you just have more tolerance to the meth than you did "years ago"
 
Honestly I didn't know what to expect? I wasn't mentioning the drug test for any other reason then to say that it must be weak because it isn't cut with something. Also that's why I only said from what I have been reading...there have been post on here claiming that they have gotten bags that were cut with different drugs that "cost more" or have countering effects.

The chart thing in my opinion is just like any other claim. Including mine and others as well. where we "know" what is good and bad.. Im not saying it's wrong I'm just asking how many times did that get stepped on before making it to little ol me? Not arguing with either of you I was just putting my thoughts up.
 
I’ll say I think at this point I’ve heard enough users bitch about this to at least give it a solid look. Likely 1 of 2 things, or both;

1: The synthesis has changed creating butylamphetamine (amongst other potentials) that is somehow weakening the experience. There’s research to back up this theory.

2: Meth is so cheap and available people have inadvertently fried themselves via the obvious neurotoxicity meth has. It only takes one experience where the user went far too high on dosage to then create a permanent tolerance. If one then tries to push over this new limitation it creates a nasty cycle of further toxicity.

I’m of the belief it’s mixture of both.

-GC
 
@G_Chem
I can agree with that.. I don't know what my tolerance is for sure. I know that I got to the point where I was over doing it..
Maybe it did just raise my tolerance that high for good? I just figured after so long I'd be geeked from the smallest amount and maybe set my hopes a little too high.
 
Sweet Jane78 said:
I’m in Southern California and I haven’t noticed any changes over the years. It has always affected me the same as you.
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From my little bit of understanding, the middle of the country has good shit, next comes California, maybe Texas, and then the east coast is shooting MSM.

I did an acetone wash on a couple batches, most came back, still trash.

So maybe @thegreenhand is on to something. Or, acetone wash is old news.
 
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