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The Sad Thread (Anti-Snoo) 2 - Tory Britain in Flames

1 grand a day? Bloody hell, even I'm not that rich (JOKING OBVIOUSLY). I thought how much I'd spent recently was bad though so that kinda makes me feel a bit better.

Surely if you already have a huge coke habit though then moving onto crack is more economical and not much worse? Not that that applies to me but I'm just finding it hard to see how it can be that much more dodgy when it's basically the same drug.

I know about habits spiralling out of control as it is. I went from using drugs like once every 1 or even 2 weeks and during the xmas holidays this year I went the whole time without taking anything but of course that moved on to a few times a week, every other day etc and nowadays I seem to cycle between using for a week straight then being off for a week when I run out.

Thing is, even after hearing how bad crack is I still really want to try it. :\ I don't even know if anything will change my mind on that. Fortunately, short of making it myself from coke I don't know anyone that sells it so I probably won't be on it anytime soon. Speaking of meth I really want to have a go with that as well but that's even harder to find and I can't imagine how expensive it is over here. More than coke I'm guessing.
 
More intense and fiendish with a very short duration, plus i assume lung wrecking, i'd rate it worse. cant remember the price of meth but if i recall its fairly decent bang for buck. i pref speed though. dunno why, unless the dabble i had was crap stuff then i got a nicer buzz from normal speed (the decent stuff i had many months ago which was amazing) than meth
 
Shambles said:
Personally I'd say it hits a lot fukkin harder and the rush and euphoria are much more intense... but is over in minutes. Bit like condensing the several hours that meth lasts into 5-10 minutes or so. The rest of the day (days, nights, weeks, however long you can hustle up the money for at a stretch) is spent trying to repeat that first pipe's effects whilst getting ever more twitchy, obsessive, paranoid, suspicious and downright shady. Then there's the hours of scratching around on the floor picking up any trace of anything remotely whiteish to put in the pipe (mmm... toasted breadcrumbs). This is also when you are most likely to seriously consider selling family members for one more pipe. You will also spend an inordinate amount of time curtain twitching. Presumably to check passers by aren't about to burst in and snatch the pipe from your hands.

Other than that it's great.
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I read a book about someone addicted to crack once (forgot the name) and it was very much as you've just explained it. Plus I had a friend who only became psychologically addicted to opiates, didn't experience any physical withdrawal but had lots of them and yet crack almost destroyed her.

Evey
 
ColtDan said:
More intense and fiendish with a very short duration, plus i assume lung wrecking, i'd rate it worse. cant remember the price of meth but if i recall its fairly decent bang for buck. i pref speed though. dunno why, unless the dabble i had was crap stuff then i got a nicer buzz from normal speed (the decent stuff i had many months ago which was amazing) than meth
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Lung wrecking as opposed to nose wrecking then :P Coke's fucking fiendish as it is and not exactly the longest lasting. I do get what you mean though, I know crack is more intense and I guess I'll find out how much for myself.

You had meth recently didn't you Dan? Did you smoke it or snort it?
 
Yeah got a small amount to try, bombed it, then a week later smoked a lil bit with somebody... quite different effects from what i recall. which aint surprising. & it was ontop a combo
 
Oh yeah, always forget about bombing. Still haven't done it with meph even though I've easily done 40g in total. Guess it'd be a bit pointless now because I'd have to swallow like my whole 3.5g bag to get the same effects haha (exaggerating but I do have a pretty high tolerance atm). As for meth, of course I'm going to ask, how did it compare to coke?

On a reflective note I was feeling a bit sad earlier because I was kind of realising that while this summer has been different in that I've been constantly moving between houses, next year it'll probably be completely different and I'll be more alone than ever.

I never got upset about my mum leaving my step dad when it happened 2 years ago, I just accepted it because I couldn't change it and felt lucky that I get to stay living with him and spend half the time there still. But sometimes I just think like, even after 8 years I'm not actually his daughter and when he finds a new girlfriend I won't be able to be around anymore.

Wow can't believe I just wrote all that, will probably delete later but yeah. Change is never usually good.
 
Tis worth giving bombing a try, i wish id bombed more meph instead of hoofing it most of the time.. smoother and longer duration. & find speed much better bombed as well. i pref coke over meth but barley scratched the surface with meth, and doubt ill bother with any more soon either,

as for change... all about perspective, am not too keen on change either but can lead onto better things.. theres a few good quotes i read on adaption to change but forgotten them
 
SummerSerenade said:
Oh yeah, always forget about bombing. Still haven't done it with meph even though I've easily done 40g in total. Guess it'd be a bit pointless now because I'd have to swallow like my whole 3.5g bag to get the same effects haha (exaggerating but I do have a pretty high tolerance atm). As for meth, of course I'm going to ask, how did it compare to coke?

On a reflective note I was feeling a bit sad earlier because I was kind of realising that while this summer has been different in that I've been constantly moving between houses, next year it'll probably be completely different and I'll be more alone than ever.

I never got upset about my mum leaving my step dad when it happened 2 years ago, I just accepted it because I couldn't change it and felt lucky that I get to stay living with him and spend half the time there still. But sometimes I just think like, even after 8 years I'm not actually his daughter and when he finds a new girlfriend I won't be able to be around anymore.

Wow can't believe I just wrote all that, will probably delete later but yeah. Change is never usually good.
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Awh.... have you talked to him about how you feel? I'm sure that if he let you live with him regardless of separating with your Mam, then he probably thinks of you as his real daughter and wouldn't dream of abandoning you. He probably has no idea of how you're feeling.

And as far as change goes, most of us find it scary so it's ok to feel a bit sad, maybe apprehensive or any other emotions that you may feel. It's all part of the process. I hope it all works out for you. Just give yourself time to adjust to your new situation and once you have, things won't seem so sad or lonely.

Here if ever you need to talk.

"As one door closes, another one opens!"

Evey
 
SummerSerenade said:
1 grand a day? Bloody hell, even I'm not that rich (JOKING OBVIOUSLY). I thought how much I'd spent recently was bad though so that kinda makes me feel a bit better.

Surely if you already have a huge coke habit though then moving onto crack is more economical and not much worse? Not that that applies to me but I'm just finding it hard to see how it can be that much more dodgy when it's basically the same drug.
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Grand's worth a day wouldn't be an everyday kinda thing obviously but wasn't entirely uncommon either. You'd be surprised....

How much coke (in terms of money) is the most you have ever taken? What is the most you can conceive of spending/using in a day/session? Crack is essentially the same substance but there is a massive difference in duration. Works out at around a quid a minute in terms of effects. And the fiend factor is like nothing you can imagine. If you have the cash to buy more you will until you too need to beg for tick. Or find alternate ways of funding your needs of course. Totally different ballgame compared to powder. Tread careful.
 
I was going to ask to be honest because some people say crack-cocaine and yet you're talking about coke and crack as different. It's always confused that has. Is coke different to crack-cocaine or is crack different to crack-cocaine or are they two different drugs but crack-cocaine is an amalgamation of the two. Explain people, please?!

Evey
 
ColtDan said:
Tis worth giving bombing a try, i wish id bombed more meph instead of hoofing it most of the time.. smoother and longer duration. & find speed much better bombed as well. i pref coke over meth but barley scratched the surface with meth, and doubt ill bother with any more soon either,

as for change... all about perspective, am not too keen on change either but can lead onto better things.. theres a few good quotes i read on adaption to change but forgotten them
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Worth bombing it even with a big tolerance? Just seems like I'd need too much for it to be worth it. I might get some speed soon, it's not top of my list though so it'll probably be in a couple of months or something. See how much money I waste (well, not waste) on coke first :P

Can you generally get meth then? Thought it wasn't really around over here. Not that I have great drug contacts or anything but you just don't tend to hear about people doing it so much. It's probably the drug I want to try most, people always seem to be coke people or meth people and I would think that I won't like it more than coke but it'd be nice to check ;)

Change never seems to lead to better things for me. Change is shit :P

@Evey - I will speak to him about it at some point, I always feel kinda awkward talking about stuff like that though and I guess I'm worried about hearing something I don't want to. I mean, I see him as my dad tbh, more so than my real dad who I rarely see or my mum's new husband who's lovely but I just don't know him as well cos I didn't grow up with him and have never lived with him full time.

@Shambles - I'm not actually that bad yet, I don't buy coke a hell of a lot because I don't have any really good contacts but when I can get it I go mad with it and I pretty much always crave it. I usually buy in grams so not too much money but last time I scored I got 3.5g for £320 (stuff that was £120 a g) which I forced myself to make last 2 weeks but the last week pretty much I was really streching it even though it was AMAZING stuff and you barely needed anything to get off.

How much could I use? I've got 10 grand to last me until I get my student loan again in September so I'm not struggling but at the same time I am super tight and don't want to blow (ooh appropriate word choice) it all on drugs. I don't mind spending £500 a month or so (don't actually spend that much usually) but more than that I'd balk at a bit. Guess once you're really addicted you stop caring but it would take a lot to get me to that point :P Despite it all, I still really want to give crack a go - surely it's possible to use it without getting hopelessly addicted? I know it'd be more risky for me as I'm already into coke so much but still...
 
How big is your tolerance? either way yeah its still worth bombing, lines ontop of a bomb is nice
 
500mg might last an hour or so. The other 3g would probably get you through the night. Of course then you'd be fiending like crazy and have already ordered more if you had the cash to hand and a dealer on call.

Who knows? There are people who manage to keep it to occasional use. There's far more who don't. The other fly in the ointment is that almost nothing helps to get you past that insane fiending and wind down except heroin. Which every reputable crack dealer also tends to have on hand. Funny that. Also gets a bit expensive cos it invariably ends up becoming to habits to feed sooner or later.

That's my experience and that of the vast majority of people I know whose curiosity could only be sated by finding out for themselves. It's not the only way it can go but it is the most likely I'd say.
 
ColtDan said:
How big is your tolerance? either way yeah its still worth bombing, lines ontop of a bomb is nice
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SummerSerenade said:
Worth bombing it even with a big tolerance?
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I assume you guys are talking Meph here? I personally found that by the time I was using around 1-2g a night, that bombing didn't seem to have much effect on me. I would still say it's worth a try but don't snort any until after you come up off what you've dropped.

I still remember the time I dropped ~300mg & almost got blown off my feet when I started coming up. It was like a freight train hit me... good times. :D
 
Shambles said:
The rest of the day (days, nights, weeks, however long you can hustle up the money for at a stretch) is spent trying to repeat that first pipe's effects whilst getting ever more twitchy, obsessive, paranoid, suspicious and downright shady. Then there's the hours of scratching around on the floor picking up any trace of anything remotely whiteish to put in the pipe (mmm... toasted breadcrumbs). This is also when you are most likely to seriously consider selling family members for one more pipe. You will also spend an inordinate amount of time curtain twitching. Presumably to check passers by aren't about to burst in and snatch the pipe from your hands.

Other than that it's great.
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Again, this is so, so true. I went from a £20/day heroin habit to a £300/day heroin/crack habit. I'd just sold my house, and was working, but was flat broke and in debt within 18 months. It got to the stage where I was looking forward to running out of money as I knew that was the only way I was gonna be able to stop. It was such a relief not to be able to score crack again (obviously I kept on with the gear, but that eventually stopped when I ran out of veins). The crazy thing is I didn't even like it that much - the first pipe of the day is nice, but it's all downhill from there. My job suffered, my family suffered, but the fiending is so intense none of that matters. I would be quite financially secure now if I'd never touched that first pipe.....
 
Jesus christ.... 1 grand a day ocassionally... £300/day... insane figures. I thought I was bad spending £210-280 a week on a Meph habit. 8(
 
Chatative said:
I still remember the time I dropped ~300mg & almost got blown off my feet when I started coming up. It was like a freight train hit me... good times. :D
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I remember the first time bombing pre ban meph, a mate bombed some up and brough em to a lil rave in town, dropped the thing and came up hard... eyes rattling, gurning my nut off, apparently i was rubbing my hands all over myself, they had to sit me down.. bouncers were glancing at me, was withering around in my chair eyes rolling... absolutely munted. was enjoyable but unfunctional for awhile until it eased off, apparently it was as funny as fuck. the euphoria was flooring, when it wore off a bit i felt like i was walking on air
 
Rattling is definitely the right word. It was almost overwhelming the come up... I'm lucky as I was at home & not out in a club like you!
 
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