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Harm Reduction The Pain Management Megathread (Chronic and Acute Pain Discussion) v6

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It IS as annoying as fuck!! Then about half way through the day it gets sore as well, up to the inside of my elbow & then kinda underneath my tricep & into the bone at the back of my shoulder.

I've been on subutex & suboxone for around five mths now. When I was on oxy I'd get really bad flare ups of neuropathic pain & be admitted for ketamine infusions,- as often as every six-eight wks.

Happy to say I haven't needed to go to hospital the whole time I've been on bupe! Touch wood!!

I'm on 36mg daily, which a PM had to agree to.

I know fent 25mcg is equal to 40-60mg of oxy,- which is 1 1-2 times stronger than oral morphine. That's as far as my brain will take me today I'm afraid, lol.

Not surprised you're feeling better on the 75 patch!

Take care

Rtp
 
It IS as annoying as fuck!! Then about half way through the day it gets sore as well, up to the inside of my elbow & then kinda underneath my tricep & into the bone at the back of my shoulder.

I've been on subutex & suboxone for around five mths now. When I was on oxy I'd get really bad flare ups of neuropathic pain & be admitted for ketamine infusions,- as often as every six-eight wks.

Happy to say I haven't needed to go to hospital the whole time I've been on bupe! Touch wood!!

I'm on 36mg daily, which a PM had to agree to.

I know fent 25mcg is equal to 40-60mg of oxy,- which is 1 1-2 times stronger than oral morphine. That's as far as my brain will take me today I'm afraid, lol.

Not surprised you're feeling better on the 75 patch!

Take care

Rtp
Hi rtp! So your getting pIn relief from suboxone? Your the first person I've ever heard of on 32mg of Bupe! They must've put u through the ringer to get that approved by ur insurance huh? That's great that it's working out for u so far! There's not much, if any, buzz from Bupe IMO so that's awesome if ur releif without any intoxication. I've never gotten much from subs except relief from physical wds, they are miricle drugs when it comes to that but never noticed any pain relief at all. I was always coming off of oxy or something else that was strong and then used the Bupe so maybe my body was just so used to the "buzz" from more traditional opiods that the Bupe isn't effective for me. The subs really mess with my mind for some reason, seems strange. I stay away from it as much as possible but sometimes I gotta take it if I can't find anything else. As long as I'm not restless and sweating icicles lol.
 
Just a positive update from me; I'm back into weed. There have been a plethora of benefits to using this magical plant regularly in small amounts. I no longer have any desire to overuse or abuse opiates, and I have tapered down to a dose that is below the dose of oxycodone I am prescribed. The cannabis is making me very relaxed, helping me sleep, and seems to be providing me with significant pain relief through muscle relaxation or anti-inflammatory effects. I hadn't smoked in years and I was shocked at the benefits. I was battling an ugly heroin addiction before this, that was still in its early stages and ever since I went to weed I simply haven't even thought about the stuff. It's over, and I'm so much happier now. I'm looking at tapering down my benzo dose once I have allowed my body some time to reboot the natural endorphins.

I was struggling with extreme cravings, severe depression (well, mood swings), and burnout. I'm not quitting opiates completely but with weed as my ally they have been so much easier to control. My goal is to use them on days in which the pain is worst, but not every day, and to smoke weed habitually, which should go without saying. Perhaps one day I will just quit altogether? It was a really ugly time of my life, I was feeling desperate for some sort of solution to the opiate problem... daily use just wasn't working out at all... it took me a while to find one, and I wasn't in too deep yet so cutting back wasn't horribly painful or anything like that. I'm still chilling out on my daily prescribed dose for a while before I make any further moves to cut back, once I've stabilized. I'm really happy about the way things are going, gosh was that ever a rough patch to go through in my journey of battling chronic pain.

Peace!
 
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Good for you Shroomy!! It's great to hear a positive post on this thread.

Weed did nada for my pain, I also hadn't smoked it in many, many years. I was very tempted for a while to start IVing H, but I've sweetchildofmine to care for so thank god I didn't take that road.

To even be using less of your oxy is amazing, & miraculous youve stopped using gear! Well done.

Rtp
 
Thanks Rtp. I was truly shocked at how well cannabis is treating me. I was skeptical at first - until the first puff, that is, when I quickly recognized this as some sort of super-cure to my addiction and pain problems. Things have really been working out great, although I'm still scrambling up the walls of this massive hole of despair and habit which I have dug myself into. My main withdrawal symptom was severe depression and I just couldn't shake it but cannabis completely alleviated it, and the lethargy too. I was practically a zombie and I had lost all hope. Things were really looking grim but I'm holding my head up high now. There was a lot more going on than just the pain in my spine, and even weed seems to be helping with that by relaxing my body and reducing inflammation in my connective tissues, allowing me to practice yoga to further strengthen myself, and providing me with a gargantuan appetite to further aid my body with more nutritious foods and making it all an enjoyable experience. To think that I ran out of heroin a few weeks ago. I couldn't get it out of my mind, like all day every day it was all I could think about, the withdrawal was extreme and I was a week into it when I caved and I got a little more and everything was temporarily alright again as the monkey continued to grow... then when I quit, I still had some lying around and I just couldn't care less. Remarkable, phenomenal... I definitely know what I will be smoking this year.
 
Awesome Shroomy!!!! I essentially did the same thing. I was out of control with iv dilaudid and it consumed me. I started smoking habitually in Dec again. Ive always had a love affair with weed but at times over past couple of years i would get anxiety. Not now. All the things you descibed same for me. I can sleep and i always wanna play my guitar stoned. Tricky thing is my pain clinic tests every month. Ill def pee dirty this month but ill tell my dr straight up how much it helps me. Shes let me slide a couple of times but everytime i try to taper off my pain gets worse. Im hurting a lot so its tricky. My goal is to get off the pain meds or find a clinic where they dont care. There is one where the pain dr tests you once first visit and weed is no problem. Coke and H probably a problem! Im dont mess with that shit. Earlier last month i went on a hunt for H cause ive tooted it but never shot it and i was going too but fate had different ideas. Thank God! I take meds as prescribed and think im fine till i come down in dosage and my pain soars. I find a mix does best but aint gonna work where im at. Im moving to Colorado later this year so that will be perfect for me. Weed helps my pain pretty good. Im bout to place an order cause i ran out several days ago. Its aready in my system. Like i said, tricky situation. Great stuff Shroomy. Very simular to me. Puff away my man and stay away from that H. Peace
 
Sorry I've been MIA, peeps.

Not dead YET...but extremely unwell.

 
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Awesome Shroomy!!!! I essentially did the same thing. I was out of control with iv dilaudid and it consumed me. I started smoking habitually in Dec again. Ive always had a love affair with weed but at times over past couple of years i would get anxiety. Not now. All the things you descibed same for me. I can sleep and i always wanna play my guitar stoned. Tricky thing is my pain clinic tests every month. Ill def pee dirty this month but ill tell my dr straight up how much it helps me. Shes let me slide a couple of times but everytime i try to taper off my pain gets worse. Im hurting a lot so its tricky. My goal is to get off the pain meds or find a clinic where they dont care. There is one where the pain dr tests you once first visit and weed is no problem. Coke and H probably a problem! Im dont mess with that shit. Earlier last month i went on a hunt for H cause ive tooted it but never shot it and i was going too but fate had different ideas. Thank God! I take meds as prescribed and think im fine till i come down in dosage and my pain soars. I find a mix does best but aint gonna work where im at. Im moving to Colorado later this year so that will be perfect for me. Weed helps my pain pretty good. Im bout to place an order cause i ran out several days ago. Its aready in my system. Like i said, tricky situation. Great stuff Shroomy. Very simular to me. Puff away my man and stay away from that H. Peace

Man that sounds exactly like what I could have wrote!!! I was going to IV the H too but fate had it not. I sniffed it a lot for a while and had serious withdrawals and cravings. Since I picked up the herb it's not even an option. I really want to get off beznos and opiates but that's definitely a long term goal. For now I'm just happy taking what I'm prescribed and smoking as kuch as I want. But there are people in my life who socially perceive weed as a negative thing so that's a big downer. Cause honestly I'd like to celebrate. I thought H was going to kill me.

Peace, time for another puff of purple kush! I will smoke a mountain of marijuana before going back to those hard opiates. It's so much less depressing. I'm still taking a very low dose of extended release oxy but that's cool. It's not fuckin heroin. And a strict benzo dosing schedule in the meantime, once I'm through with the opiates I'll start tapering that shit down too...

edit- man I'd like to elaborate on one point you made. Weed used to make me anxious a lot of the time too. I had an on/off love/hate relationship with it for the longest time. It wasn't helping my pain and I started getting panic attacks every time I was high, so I quit for 3 years to sort my shit out. Now I am shocked by the effects. No anxiety, I can jump right into weed with no tolerance. Strong antidepressant. Mild muscle relaxer and anti-inflammatory. I haven't felt this mellow and peaceful in many years my man. I used weed in an act of desperation because I was spiralling out of control with the heroin. One of the primary effects is that weed destroys my cravings for opiates to the extent that I won't even think about them as a means to get high.

It's crazy, I think weed should be prescribed by more doctors. Is weed not commonly prescribed alongside opiates because that would result in a lower addiction rate to opiates, and therefore more money for the pharmaceutical companies and everyone who stands to gain? I just know the impact it has on me... completely eliminating cravings for the hard stuff. To me, it's funny on how an opiate addiction screening test, they would consider cannabis use as a red flag. It's never been a gateway to anything for me (that would probably be alcohol) and it has anti-addiction properties for myself. I can't believe it's considered illegal with no medical value in most everywhere in the world.
 
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That's great news shroomyshroom!!! I'm another one that weeds didn't help much with pain but it's a godsend for extreme nausea! Nothing else works for my constant nausea but I smoke 2-3 bones a day and I'm straight. It also helps me eat, it really hurts a lot for me to eat so I got as low as 97lbs( 5'8) and now I'm around 140-150lbs which is avg for my height! Weed just helps in so many different ways for so many different illnesses that I believe everyone should smoke, it's like getting a vaccination or something. Well I just wanted to congratulate u and give the weed a little shot out lol.
 
Thanks purple kush! A shout out to my buddy who hooked me up with a great example of God's green medicine. To the grower of the purple kush, whoever that was. And to my skull-shaped glass pipe which changes colour when it gets dirty. Thanks weed! Together let's beat these problems!
 
I am just stoked Shroomy!! Youre desribing me in there. Im on benzos and powerful bi polar meds and no interaction. I havent had any in about a week and im really on edge and irritable. To know someone is going thru same thing i am is awesome. Other meds and alcohol are legal and kill people. I dont understand it. Im in the bible belt so no legalization here. I get to colorado im getting my marijuana medical card and will get it cheap in shops. Plus i get to pick some different strains. Now im at mercy of whatever he has. Last one was bubblegum. Super strain. Ive had purple kush and remember it well. When i smoked my last bit about 6 rips off bong and played some Tool loud on guitar. Now thats fun bro. Im really proud of you man. You coulda did the H and you chose Gods plant. Great call dude. Im getting some later. Maybe pain dr can write me a little suboxone to help with withdrawl. Im sick of pee tests. Its just not right. My dr knows it thats why shes let a couple THC tests go. Its a DEA thing there. Its Duke pain clinic and they gotta uphold their rep. Im gonna get mine and jam. Learning Let it Be by Beatles so im excited. Anyway, i like you man. Youre gonna be fine. Proud of you!!!
 
Ya man. There are so many great strains out there. This is the classic purple kush taste that I remember. The buds aren't too purple but they are perfectly manicured and incredibly dank smelling. I used to keep a good number of strains on hand at any time, so as soon as I get paid I'll be looking to multiply my purple haze jar while transmuting it into new highly evolved strains to add to my collection of medicine. Some good old green alchemy. Maybe get some blue cheese flowers, and some shatter too since I picked up a nice domeless nail a while pack (as a way of hitting dmt, I haven't dabbed with it yet!).

I could have chosen the H. It was in my hands, but I threw it away for the weed. You're right man. It's empowering in a way but it was also easy because of how much I love weed, and how I hadn't smoked in 3 years. And how sick I was just trying to stay well, not getting any positive effects from opiates anymore and very little pain relief. But my mentality has changed. I'm taking the oxy exactly as prescribed, this low dose, I'm not relying on it for anything and I don't see it as a means to feeling good, just maybe to add some pain relief through the combo with pot. It's exciting. I'd like to be able to skip doses eventually, for now the next month I'll just be in recover-from-abuse mode, that's for sure. I was really messing up my nose : (

I haven't played much guitar while I'm stoned yet, but that's exciting. I've been busy working but I'm going to play a little tonight. Probably just mess around with some scale I've been learning playing rhythm guitar. Let it be.

Why so many tests I only ever had to do once of those? I had benzos and all sorts of opiates in my system at the time but it was reported that I came back clean, but that was years ago when I was just getting in. Never made any sense to me how I could smoke opium before leaving for my appointment, walk into a clinic and test clean as a daily clonaz popper too.
 
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SO glad for you guys! I can only smoke the first week after each appointment. MA is a prescription state, but my clinic says that at this time, you cannot be prescribed opiates while using Mary Jane. I think pot is so much less harmful than alcohol, but what can you do?

Dixi, I'm sorry to hear you're not well. What's going on?

I'm STILL waiting to get my spinal cord stimulator, but my appointment is at the end of March for the implant, so here's hoping!

Hope le everyone has a good night...

Hugs and drugs...

;)
 
Good news for me too! My nerve conduction test was scheduled for the 24th. Saw my dr today & she got me a Friday appt !!

Whether it's carpal tunnel or a nerve impingement in my neck I really don't care. So long as it's something fixable I'm happy.

Not having any strength or relief from the numbness/pins & needles/ pain in my dominant hand & arm is driving me crazy. Meanwhile, my chronic pain is doing really well with the subutex/suboxone.

My dr was on leave & only came off the plane this morn. My neurologist went on leave ystrdy. He wanted to call her to hear her thoughts on what's going on with me cognitively after being hit as a pedestrian by a vehicle.

He's back on the 15th. We'll have my nerve conduction results by then. My dr doesn't just want to talk to him, she wants me to be there in her room & all three of us to have a teleconference..

As she said, she's got no secrets, I've no secrets, & we need to figure out what the next step is to get me "right" again.

For 6 mths I've had dizzy spells, forget what I was talking about,- or change subjects so rapidly that no one can keep up, repeat what I've already said.

Cognitively, my speech is slower, or slurred. I've forgotten how to spell basic words, (which is bloody difficult with a ten yr old child who's constantly asking how to spell new words), my memory is like a goldfish- I have to write everything down, set alarms & reminders on my phone, put post it's on my front door.

I get stressed by things that usually never bothered me, & have high levels of anxiety. Although my upper left forehead is scarred enough that makeup still won't cover it, my brain scan was normal. I even have a slight dent, but the hospital report was that I had no lacerations or wounds from the accident.

So glad I'm using my phone with autocorrect....still,- it's taken me half an hr to write this post .

Can anyone relate to my story? Have you improved mentally or emotionally?

Good karma ppl

PS: Dixi, what's going on? We care❤️

Rtp
 
That's cool that you have different doctors working together to help you. The 15th that's so soon!
If your brain scan was normal that's a good sign I think, even if there are all these problems left unexplained.
Sound really hard to deal with. In time everything will hopefully heal up right? All the best.
 
I seriously never post much in here, but... Shroomy's post spoke to me. I have been on pain management for over 6 years, mostly hydrocodone but in the end Fentanyl patches as well. I finally just HAD it with the bullshit pain management shit and decided January would be my last month on opiates. I have not smoked weed since high school since it suddenly gave me paranoia etc. But I am on day 4 of opiate withdrawal and have found that some good quality weed has helped me SO MUCH. I have slept every night with the help of Zanaflex and have also been taking Neurontin and some supplements. The physical symptoms have been horrid. I am finally starting to see the light of day. I have many legitimate pain issues, but have also recently been diagnosed with PTSD, major depressive disorder and anxiety. I need to be "clear" to deal with the mental stuff, and I REALLY think it will help with the physical. Good luck to you, shroomy
 
Runtoparadise, sounds like youre dealing with avlot. I feel for you and hope you continue to get good news. Your life seems rough but ityll get better. Jessimessi, glad youre going back to Gods plant. Im hoping my Dr next week writes me out some Suboxone. Mainly for withdrawl. I went to suboxone clinic last year and they tried to treat my pain with it and didnt work so good. Its just the fastest way i can get off my dilaudid and ms contin. I cant taper. I start hurting and take a dilaudid. Plus i want these pills out of here. Everyday its like, you know, you can iv one more time. I dont need that temptation. Thats where weed comes in. I litterly use it for many things but ill be thinking about preparing to IV and ill go smoke some and urge is gone and seems stupid to even think that. So i havent had any in a week and this morning i got hit with the urge to iv and still am. Im hurting and want that pain free rush. Ill get over it and getting somevweed today. I used to do that. Smoke a few days after my test then stop sobim clean but screw that. Marijuana is something i need every day. I still have surgical pain and painful blood clots but i think Tylenol and weed will cover it. Its just getting this synthetic heroin out of me. Pain clinic tells me cant smke weed yet their giving me powerfully addictive meds. Shit doesnt make sense. I think if yourevout there smoking crack or banging H i can see why they shouldnt get treatment but weed? Idk.

Shroomy, i wanna try the shatter too. Ill ask him today if he can get some. Sounds like you have some pretty good strains where youre at. Awesome. Def play guitar man. Once you do youll love the combo of weed and guitar. Im sure you hwve before. Let it Be is easy. Solo is a little tricky. Its Am pentatonic scale but its all good. Theres a guy called Marty Shwartz on youtube and his lessons are very good. He has a site, guitarjamz.com. All kinds of lessons on there. But he does covers on YouTube. Learned 3 Beatles songs from him. I love rythem guitar but i also love to solo. Im not great at it but i love rocking some chords and all the sudden drop into solo. Thats why i like Tool so much. Be rollin on some power chords and then a cool solo. Adam Jones used delay a loy and i dont have delay pedal but my Marshall amp come built in with effects so i turn knob to delay and its good. So here we are, in the pain management thread talking guitar and weed, lol. I love this thread cause it reminds me i dont have it that bad. Compared to Dixi and Runtoparadise im fine. I had a tramatic surgery and recovery last year and it took awhile but im ok. Im hurting today but i have strength and sense not to self medicate. Yall keep posting and please post Dixi. Like was said, we all care for you. Yall wish me luck today cause i just went thru the steps in my head to iv and i shouldnt have the equipment but i do. Everyday battle. Get my weed later and ill be fine. Ill report back later so wishes and prayers are needed. If i do iy ityll start of cycle back and i dont want that. You all have a great day and hang in there. Peace
 
Closeau hang in there buddy! I actually did a quick taper ( about 10 days) down to .5 suboxone then jumped. I had a friend of a friend so didn't have to eff with damn doctors. Listening to some good music like the Eagles and the Beatles helps a lot. Jackson Browne's "Running on Empty" has been my anthem .. Blast that shit!! You can do it
 
Ya man, I'm going to pick up some shatter soon. I'm going to pick up some pink kush shatter. I've never tried pink kush before, in any form. I'm so excited to try out my new domeless titanium nail. It works great with my scooping dab took to vaporize dmt. When I got it in the recent past, I was thinking about how much I missed smoking weed. I was in this great big head shop, but I was completely out of the scene. Never thought I'd be able to smoke again let alone derive a benefit from the herb.

I really prefer dabbing to smoking to keep my lungs healthy. I strongly prefer dabbing as a means to vaporize since it gives such a powerful, fast acting dose for relief. I also like how I can have a lot of concentrate on hand, and it doesn't smell as much and it's a small container rather than a drawer full of flowers. But I will always have some flower too. But once this purple kush is smoked out I plan on picking up some pink kush shatter.


Jeez. Am I trying to sound like a stoner? It's just weird because I went from 0 to stoner so quickly. But I feel great.

Thanks for the guitar stuff dude. If you search 30 minute play-along funk guitar workout on youtube, this have been my workouts lately. Since I'm focussing on rhythm, I love to solo as well!
 
M'k stoners with your pink kush & purple kush & utube solos haha, getting back to the pain thread lol..

I had my nerve conduction study today. While I don't know yet what it means, I was watching the screen while the neurologist changed fingers and settings.

Little finger there was just a kinda steady line, small ups & downs.
Similar with my ring finger tho slightly bigger waves.

The other fingers, palm & wrist area went ^^^^^^^^, but huge spikes up & down.

I asked him if he needed to attach anything to my neck, but he said no, spinal cord and brain had been tested thru my hand signals.

This is good, u know, that the most part of my right hand that is numb has resulted in abnormal results.

What this means I do not know, but surely, if there's a test for it there must be an antidote to it!

Results mon or tues, hopefully then there's options. I've put up with a numb hand for four wks, on top of chronic pain, on top of being hit & run. Ran. Whatevs.

I'd just really like to even be able to hold my ph w/out dropping it!!

Grrr

Rtp
 
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