Misc The Pain Management Mega Thread version 3.0

[macd610]

Muvolution and D2P, great advice. Yeah, I have been reading a bit more about constipation due to opiate use, and from what I have seen it's about your body slowing down... like the tissue or muscles or whatever in the colon do not spasm properly ( or something to that affect?).
If the reasons for constipation are different, stool softeners and laxatives can be helpful, but not so much for opiate/opioid induced problems.
Do I understand this thing properly? If I have it wrong, please feel free to correct me.

D2P, was yesterday any different from the previous 14 days? I was hoping so much yesterday when I did not see you on here that it was because you were having a great day and up a little bit?

How is everyone else doing?

Cat

 

[Doomed2pain]

I was in too much pain to even type hun Im still bed bound nothing has changed.

And yes your intestines etc don't move how they should.

 

[macd610]

I was in too much pain to even type hun Im still bed bound nothing has changed.

And yes your intestines etc don't move how they should.

I was hoping for the best, D, I'm so sorry to hear it was the opposite ....19 days left in the count down...pretty soon it'll be 13, then 9, then 5, and one day I will be happy to post "Count Down Over!!!!!".

 

[Jktm]

I'm ready for naloxegol to come out...It's an opioid antagonist that doesn't cross the BBB. They're trying it out for opioid induced constipation. I was in the study (but more then positive I got the placebo) while it was in Stage 3. It shows great success, thus far. Can't wait for it's approval.

Ended up getting 24 hours of sleep the other day. Guess I just needed some pain relief for me to be able to fall asleep. Felt so much better after only getting a total of 10 hours across the previous 4 days.

 

[Doomed2pain]

I was hoping for the best, D, I'm so sorry to hear it was the opposite ....19 days left in the count down...pretty soon it'll be 13, then 9, then 5, and one day I will be happy to post "Count Down Over!!!!!".

I hope it hurries up because Im getting sick of being in pain now i want some relief even if it is just a little bit

 

[WyldOrchid5150]

Hey y'all,
Horrible day yesterday, and really not holding out much hope for today. Pain levels at an 8-9 and mental state is extreamly fucked. I just want the earth to open up and swallow me whole. Gads.

Hello I'm 17 years old and my back has had me down and in severe pain for the last 4 months, doctors dont know what is wrong with my but my entire back and neck leave me in pain all day and sitting in school all day only make it worse. My hands an legs also randomly twitch which could be from pain, my anxiety (I am diagnosed with panic attacks and GAD), or I could have a serious disease that doctors aren't catching which only makes my anxiety worse. I am prescribed flexeral and celebrex for my pain but they do no good and I recently have been starting to use heroin to deal with pain which I no longer want to do. I want answers and to be taken seriously by doctors but it seems all they do us give me bogus mess that don't help and they probably think in searching for drugs, well I've had to resort to that because of the situation and I can't do it anymore. Before this I was an everyday gym goer and in good shape. I've become depressed and I gate life I just want help with my back. What do I do to be taken seriously about my pain?
Edit- would like to add ive been in physical therapy for 4 months to no avail

Oh Honey! No,no,no,no! Heroin is NOT the answer. You need a different doctor or something but to add an addiction into a pain situation is just..well..nuts. You need to read this thread and all the other addiction threads and really think about this. I know it hurts, I know you can't take anymore, and I definatly know what it feels like when you feel as though no one is listening or taking you seriously. Keep fighting and no matter what, don't give up, there is an answer out there. Nowadays you have to be your own doctor,pharmisist(sp), and mental health specalist. Use your brain, your computer, and Search! I would help anyway I could,dear...with advice or support,whatever, as I'm sure most of the folks on here would. But not if your going to jump right into heroin for pain relife, thats suicide. Your to young not to fight! What do your parents say? You are more than welcome to p.m. me if you are not comfortable speaking outloud. I care. *hugs*
macd, I'd be scared to death! Lets hope it just a stone.
micheal, I have appx. $500,000 in medical debt. To hell with those vultures, if they want their money so bad, take me to debtors prison, I'll take a free bed and 3 meals a day.

 

[Jktm]

Whatever you do...do not ask for brand name drugs (i.e. don't walk in saying, "My friend gave me an OxyContin, and it helped a lot. It was green."). That's the quickest way to get labeled as a drug seeker. If a doctor tries to throw that term at you, just reply with, "I'm not a drug seeker; just a relief seeker." I can't really give too much more advice on how to talk to doctors-except by saying to always show them respect-as it will soon turn into sourcing which is against the BLUA.

 

[Doomed2pain]

Keep a pain diary so your Dr can see just how much and the type of pain you are in, you are more likely to get better treatment then as the Dr will understand how it is affecting you.

 

[mustangsally24]

Oh Honey! No,no,no,no! Heroin is NOT the answer. You need a different doctor or something but to add an addiction into a pain situation is just..well..nuts. You need to read this thread and all the other addiction threads and really think about this. I know it hurts, I know you can't take anymore, and I definatly know what it feels like when you feel as though no one is listening or taking you seriously. Keep fighting and no matter what, don't give up, there is an answer out there. Nowadays you have to be your own doctor,pharmisist(sp), and mental health specalist. Use your brain, your computer, and Search! I would help anyway I could,dear...with advice or support,whatever, as I'm sure most of the folks on here would. But not if your going to jump right into heroin for pain relife, thats suicide. Your to young not to fight! What do your parents say? You are more than welcome to p.m. me if you are not comfortable speaking outloud. I care. *hugs*

I stopped using last weekend and am determined to not buy anymore but its so tempting. My parents do what they can, i don't have a relationship really with my mom as she messed that up for herself a long time ago. My dad is unemployed and does what he can, i cant really talk about things with him though. I have a great grandmother who helps me with everything and i told her i need an MRI and i need one fast. I went to a surgeon/specialist and he referred me to a rhuematologist and i had some blood work done on arthritis, lyme disease and a few other things all came back negative. I havent slept since two days ago and cant fall asleep because of my anxiety raising and my back/neck hurting me so much and nothing helps. The most prevalent thought in my mind is id rather just be dead than live in extreme pain from this young age and on. Working out at the gym was my life and i had that taken away from me, its what used to keep me going. Now i dread everyday and getting high is the only way to leave my consciousness. My anxiety paired with my back/neck issues is almost unbearable, i go to a psychiatrist and therapist to talk about anxiety and depression but it doesn't help much. Thanks for the support i appreciate it.

 

[macd610]

Hello I'm 17 years old and my back has had me down and in severe pain for the last 4 months, doctors dont know what is wrong with my but my entire back and neck leave me in pain all day and sitting in school all day only make it worse. My hands an legs also randomly twitch which could be from pain, my anxiety (I am diagnosed with panic attacks and GAD), or I could have a serious disease that doctors aren't catching which only makes my anxiety worse. I am prescribed flexeral and celebrex for my pain but they do no good and I recently have been starting to use heroin to deal with pain which I no longer want to do. I want answers and to be taken seriously by doctors but it seems all they do us give me bogus mess that don't help and they probably think in searching for drugs, well I've had to resort to that because of the situation and I can't do it anymore. Before this I was an everyday gym goer and in good shape. I've become depressed and I gate life I just want help with my back. What do I do to be taken seriously about my pain?
Edit- would like to add ive been in physical therapy for 4 months to no avail

MustangSally,
I want to apologize for not responding to your post sooner, somehow I missed it. It really is a shame that people have to go through so much in order to get pain relief. I don't think I need to tell you that heroin is not the answer. You know that.
It can take an incredible amount of time to find a doctor that's right for you and build a trustful relationship with that person.
IF you find a doctor who thinks you are indeed a good candidate for opiate/opioid treatment, chances are you will be required to do a urinalysis before you actually get prescribed anything ...and if you test positive for heroin, you will have ruined your chance.
I don't know how deeply you are involved with it right now, but I'm sure you realize that if you keep going down this road you may find it very difficult to turn back.
Try and think about what you have to lose. I know it hurts. I also know that many of us have had to wait a long time to find relief, and it sucks. Just remember that if you are a candidate for this type of therapy, it's going to require patience...and a lot of it.

 

[mustangsally24]

MustangSally,
I want to apologize for not responding to your post sooner, somehow I missed it. It really is a shame that people have to go through so much in order to get pain relief. I don't think I need to tell you that heroin is not the answer. You know that.
It can take an incredible amount of time to find a doctor that's right for you and build a trustful relationship with that person.
IF you find a doctor who thinks you are indeed a good candidate for opiate/opioid treatment, chances are you will be required to do a urinalysis before you actually get prescribed anything ...and if you test positive for heroin, you will have ruined your chance.
I don't know how deeply you are involved with it right now, but I'm sure you realize that if you keep going down this road you may find it very difficult to turn back.
Try and think about what you have to lose. I know it hurts. I also know that many of us have had to wait a long time to find relief, and it sucks. Just remember that if you are a candidate for this type of therapy, it's going to require patience...and a lot of it.

thanks for the response. Ive had a few stints with dope, since the summer ive gone a few weeks with doing it everyday then a few weeks clean and the cycle repeats. I no longer want to go that route, my friends dont approve of it and neither do i really i know its not the right thing but sometimes i feel as i have no other choice.

 

[Doomed2pain]

You really don't want to test dirty cannabis is enough for you to get labelled as a drug seeker at many clinics, even though it helps a lot of us cpp's

 

[mustangsally24]

You really don't want to test dirty cannabis is enough for you to get labelled as a drug seeker at many clinics, even though it helps a lot of us cpp's

This is another problem...i have a very expensive bong that i worked for its hand blown and new would go for $600-700 plus the $200 of work put on it. Needless to say my weed tolerance is through the rough and i barley get high from weed anymore, im known to easily go through 4-5 grams in one sitting. The point of this story is how i started to dabble with other drugs such as heroin, i needed an escape weed no longer gives me.

 

[Jktm]

I'd clean and sell the bong then...If you're a CPP and not in a MMJ state, then you don't need to be smoking weed. It will get you fired from a PM clinic in a heartbeat. Hell, I pissed clean on my first visit to a PM clinic, and they wouldn't treat me because of an attempted suicide...

BTW, how is everyone doing? I'm at a 6 atm, so that's pretty good...good for me at least.

 

[mustangsally24]

I'd clean and sell the bong then...If you're a CPP and not in a MMJ state, then you don't need to be smoking weed. It will get you fired from a PM clinic in a heartbeat. Hell, I pissed clean on my first visit to a PM clinic, and they wouldn't treat me because of an attempted suicide...

BTW, how is everyone doing? I'm at a 6 atm, so that's pretty good...good for me at least.

being sober makes me contemplate suicide most of the time or wish to myself that i was either high or no longer on this earth as the person i currently am

edit: just found out i have another appointment with a specialist on October 26th and he'll tell me weather i need a CAT scan or MRI...the waiting continues

 

[Jktm]

i feel ya on the waiting...the new PM clinic i got referred to last week,i had to call this morning for them to let me know they'd call me later today to set up an appt., but that they are booked all next weekas far as new patient appts. and that i will have to wait til the week after next. i'll run out of trams tomorrow. -.-

Why the fuck do doctors have to have specific days for new patients? that shit pisses me the fuck off. i just want a goddamn appt.! i should have called them the second my doctor's office called to tell me that they faxed my referral!

 

[Doomed2pain]

I've got to wait til the 23rd to see my pm Dr been waiting months as it is. Suckage

 

[Jktm]

Ya, sorry about all the pain you're going through...It's funny...all the nursing books my sister has specifically say, "All patients have the right to pain management, regardless of medical history," but it never seems that way lol...

 

[macd610]

MustangSally, as you can see, pain management with opiates has many of its own challenges. We have all been through the initial waiting period, and all the other horrible waiting periods after that. It's not easy, but it's definitely worth it at the end in my opinion. I hope you will be able to make it through your hideous waiting with out using so many drugs that you miss your opportunity.

 

[mustangsally24]

^^excuse me if I come off as I was complaining alot. I'm just tired of laying in confusion and pain but I'm not the only one. I know this is a little off topic but how can weed be a schedule one drug, many barley even consider it a drug....much less harmful than alcohol and tobacco.

edit: extremely proud of myself right now, a dude i used to go on dope runs with is offering to pay me back some of the d he owes me, im not responding to him. I want to respond so bad and go out but i know i shouldnt