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The Pain Management Mega Thread v2.0

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closeau said:
I think it works a lot better on my pain.
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this is the part they don't care about. How it works on Your Pain.. or My pain. we are not the same but all thrown into the same basket. no 2 people have the same issues you can treat the same. some can go swimming in pools, some can't. some can take methadone sucessfully and some don't respond the same.

you know if the statistics are true that 1 in 4 people have chronic pain.. i don't think i fall into this catagory. cause there is no way there are hundreds of thousands of people like me in my country.

I just don't see Doctors kids/children on the methadone program.. no Sports stars, no elderly people lining up each morning.. why is that? cause its bullshit. nobody will real education or wealth. If i could i would leave this Country for the rest of my life. there are many things i have not said but i live with my father who is my carer. he is getting over Pancreatic cancer, Vietnam Veteran too. we have had many tradegies also. But yeah iam not here for sympathy just to chat with others who understand.

They have no compassion. Australians only help eachother when they can be seen on TV doing so and get a pat on the back for it.

Ive had Doctors tell me you just gotta be strong, now and then in life your gonna go through tough times. below link will show you that i have already been dealing with more then i should from a very young age. This is my Twin brother, my sister also has passed (16years old from heroin, foster home runaway, no an addict, once off)

So its just me and my father for many years. i worked hard to retrain myself for a more suitable workforce. nothing matters to them.

yes i did abuse Oxy. but i never have since or before. do people deserve a second chance?

everyday on TV in Australia you see Child Molestors getting Housing from Government, Murders getting released after 4 years, one guy caught with 12 Million in Cocain only gets 8 or 12 years. I have more restrictions in my life then all of them and for the rest of my life.

i have never broken the law in my life. part from smoking some weed, download tv shows. not even parking tickets. really. i did abuse oxy for a bit. i know it was illegal. yet i was not put on Anti-despressants (now on Lithium for Bipolar) no alcohol, just ciggarettes. like i mentioned before i didnt even know what oxy was. I think ive paid my debt. i only ever hert myself and father.

http://commercialclubking.blogspot.com.au/2011/05/my-heart-soul-tribute-2-my-identical.html

sorry bout all the info. its cool you guys are not just trolls, thank you very much
 
It's political bollocks as per. I haven't been offered methadone. Fent and oxy ir was by far my best meds regime, along with my shit tonne of other meds that is. Fingers crossed for me, im hoping for sublingual fentanyl, new bt pain meds and spinal cord stimulation so please, please pray, i implore you. It is absolutely imperative i get the scs trial.

So fucking nervous new drs scare me big time

Love to you all, and pm any time im online alot, the distraction helps my pain <3
 
i hope it goes well for you Doomed. keeping your mind away from pain is my hardest thing to deal with. like a 24/7 tape recorder playing a looping nightmare. I'm keen to hear more about Fentanyl myself. not sure what your on now but in Australia once they put you onto methadone, making you dose at a chemist. they think this is the best way for you and its illegal for any other Doctor to step in once they got you in there books. So iam made to believe. i just can't but. (Gold Card meaning War Veterains don't get treated the same way, thats if they got that card that is) Where is the compassion in that? So i hope you don't get forced onto something that don't work. nice 2 meet you btw
 
what i was saying about War Vets.. i mean its like to classes of people. they can get what they want for there problems. Yet i can't cause iam poor and not in the public eye. i really think thats true. If more people just knew what it was like how i lived and seen it for themselves things would change
 
Im sure you can change your meds if they are no longer beneficial for your health, i also know that long term methadone use can lead to some shocking physical health conditions, my good friend died from years of drug abuse, he was prescribed injectable methadone when the nhs stopped diamorphine amps, it fucked up his bones and organs, then he died from a heart attack at 40. He had carpel tunnel from being a hair dresser for a long long time, and his drug use was self medicating for his pain. Damn shame he was a lovely man. Anyway i am rambling.

Maybe if you approached the dr who runs the clinic, explain that you'd like to try something else as the side effects are getting too much for you, and they have to do something, it is illegal not to do so.

Pm me anytime, nice to meet you too :)
 
I'm gonna try some methadone next week. I usually take 60 - 80 mg of morphine or 300 mg of codeine or dihydrocodeine. What can i expect from 5 mg of methadone?
 
^Well i'm mostly looking for long lasting pain relief but i'm looking foward to seeing if i can catch a buzz. I mean, i take codeine & dihydrocodeine (scripted) for pain but apart from when a dose of the aforementioned drugs kick in, i feel no 'high', certainly nothing significant to speak of. However i often take morphine mostly for recreation, seeing as its not prescribed, but 60/80 mg gives me a lovely warm "body high".

Having said that do you reckon i'll appreciate methadone recreationally? I know one shouldnt abuse pain meds but buying this methadone is a one off so i'm looking to experiment! ;)
 
I personally love methadone recreationally, but once you start taking it daily, more than 2-3 days, or over 50-60mgs it will start loosing its magic. Now a lot of people don't really like methadones buzz, but I enjoy it a lot. One of the characteristics I look for in an opioid is duration. Being high for 16-20 hours is alot better than a rush and 2-3 hour high.

Now I'm stopping using methadone recreationally and only taking as scripted, and it works very well for my problems. My neurologist likes it because its long duration/build up, low abuse potential (for long periods of use, its hard get legitly high off it), and shown to help with other types of pains/aspects of pain. I'm sure similar to tramadol, or other nmda antagonists and snri pain releaving opioids, it works for some like no ones business and others hardly at all. Pains are different, not all have the neurological components that nmda antagoists or snri drugs seem to help out with.

IMO, if you have been using opioids in the past, I'd go with 10mgs to start off with methadone. Honestly though, when I was using 90-120mgs of oxy to nod, 40mgs of methadone would make me nod out for 12 hours.
 
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Beautiful thing about methadone being scripted compared to a lot of other pain meds, for example in my case ER tramadol, is the price at the pharmacy. I paid under $10 bucks for a script of generic 60x5mg tabs of methadone, and when I scripted tramadol ER's, it was gonna cost well over 100 bucks (new year started so deductible wasn't reach yet for all scripts being $10 or under). Paying like 5 bucks for a month worth of pills (around 15 w/o insurance) is really nice, especially with low income.

Also the methadone high is not gonna be quite what you see say from oxycodone, heroin, or whatever. It comes on nice and slow, so you're unfortunately forced to wait about 2 hours or so till the peak, but when it starts to hit you are hit with a distinct opioid agonist high. It is pretty heavy, more heavy/less stimulating than oxycodone, so it can put people down in there chair when dosing recreationally especially. It has a euphoria, but it is lighter and more of a great mood lift, where you feel nothing can go wrong. This lasts a good 24 hours, so the euphoria may not be so in your face, but it is long lasting and leaves you feeling good even when your coming down. I find with shorter opioids I get dysphoria as the opioid leaves my body, with methadone this isn't so much the case. I can wake up the next morning not dying because I really need a hit, but well rested as methadone just makes sleeping a dream come true for me. It's nod if you hit that point, is a little more sleepy than oxy, but can be very dreamy kinda similar to hydrocodone. The nod can last hours upon hours, and if you get up you'll stop it, allowing yourself to do something around the house, sit down and start nodding out again.
 
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With methadone, be careful. Not to dose again until about 3 hours, so you are sure that you are feeling it. Also, be very cautious about taking other cns depressants with it. Xanax+ methadone is notoriouslly dangerous.
 
guys iam on 40mls or 200mg depends how you understand it. So yeah i can feel this high being spoken about. I tell my Doctor mate this is gettin me high but its not the same things as pain relief. Throughout the day anyway. maybe for those initial 2-3 hours that iam to sick to do anything anyway. The Lady Chemist told me she has been a Chemist for 35 years and dosing for many years. my 200mg dose is the highest she had ever dosed anybody.

5 years ago i was on 90mg. 2 years ago i was 120mg.

I have alot of issues with Methadone.... I gotta say this but... I think each and every single person reacts differently to methadone. From what i have read and expirienced. From what ive gone through on this drug i was advise against starting it. these are health issues from pain. so you may not be the same

Tramadol used to be good for pain. i was on 2x200's SL for over 3 years closer to 4

then in hospital.. All there hospital morphines.. Endone.. Oxycontin after hospitatl.. only thing that would let me stand and go to the toilet. there is so much info on the about Oxy i know. but the truth is when i started on it it was just something i was taking for pain. i didnt know about the side effects or what it could do if abused.

at one stage i was prescribed 5x80mg Oxy for a couple of weeks then transfeered to MS Mono. Its been 1 hell of a circus my recovery from surgery.
 
Why don't you speak to your doctor about reducing your dose of methadone? I doubt you are getting any more pain relief than you do at 60mgs, so just go to for it. You will feel 100xthat better
 
Going over 100mg seems kinda ridiculous to me. Talk about drastically creating a opioid tolerance. Taking 90mgs of methadone destroyed my tolerance to opioids. Kinda pissed I did that. Hopefully with 15mgs a day I can get it lower so I don't have to fuck with this problem.
 
i wish i could get off it altogether. they know and i know i will be on some kind of high opiate for the rest of my days. like i said previously. we all don't react the same way. Yes i do get better pain relief with a higher dose. it also helps a hell of alot with withdrawl type symptoms. some people say you can't get withdrawls until 36 hrs. IMO as soon as i feel increased burning complete spine pain, when all the symptoms start, there is no way i can go back even 160. i know many of you guys have done Methadone and others for years and have expirienced opinions, i just know what ive had to go through getting here, de-creasing will only make me suffer more then i am now. you just gotta trust me on this 1. you guys gotta remember that iam now 170kgs.

i was only 180mg before Christmas. Doctor has increased it again. I probably should have stayed 190.

this is my blog that i work on to keep my mind busy. however it really isnt the same as being able to walk and work. yes i can walk but not very far and its been like this before i gained the wieght. http://commercialclubking.blogspot.com.au

i did some protesting on it a couple months back, just to show people what i was going through. cause really, your alone, lying down day after day in bed in pain or your at the Doctors, what kind of life is that? so if you read the blog scroll down til you see a big RED HELP Key image.. about 7 rows down.. Ive had over 7,000views in 4 days just past. its crazy.

with all my website work i wanted to show the Doctors iam not a lazy person and want to do something with my life. however i just can't get anyone to listen. Hopefully i can this year and get what i deserve, a second chance at proper pain meds.
 
Anyone got any idea what happens if you actually get to the stage of receiving some form of medication but you have already been self medicating with opiates? I mean will they give me a measily dose of like 100mg of morphine- which wont do jack and then when it doesn't work throw their hands in the air and say " opiods wont work for you"
 
i dont abuse my meds to keep my physical dependency and tolerance as low as humanly possible. in so much pain due to the weather. im glad i have changed and increased my meds or i would be in even worse shape. i hate crps :'(
 
That's a pretty hefty dose of Morphine to not do anything. If that is the case for you, I would do some serious work on getting your tolerance down.
If you get medication, they will most likely start you on 10mg of oxy/ hydro or 30mg of morphine, or 4mg of Dilaudid, and if you say that doesn't work, then they might double you, but I doubt that they will go over that for a new patient.
 
guys iam just thinking about something. Do any of you suffer from Dehydration? I know that i do for sure and methadone and my inability to get my heart rate up daily for your body to up-take new water to flush old water n toxins. something i learned many years ago was that water is the most important part of good health.

the hot n cold feelings i get daily are like a fever feeling. so that can happen for hours a day with me drinking cold water to try and drop core temps.

dry mouth is more then a dry mouth its actually a mouth condition my destist told me caused from methadone Dehydrating you.

constipation hardcore another sign of Dehydration. pissing 15-20 times a day sometimes.

my skin and feet. you can see it

I asked my GP the other day about this and he said i wasnt Dehydrated. Now iam thinking WTF dude? (btw i have 2 Doctors, 1 for Methadone, 1 ive had for 11 years on and off)

It may not be the same kind of Dehydration you see in Africa or after 20 games of Racket Ball. I still believe now i think about it more that is 1 of my main issues.

http://www.medicinenet.com/dehydration/article.htm


So guys take a thought about this.. Can Dehydration be causing us extra pain? I just googled it and Dehydration + Pain and you get thousands of results.


years ago when i was body building i used creatine monohydrate to help hydrate better and muscle energy. Now this only worked well because of the daily exercise in your target heart range. I wonder if this would help if i can't get my body core into that target heart range.

Its defo got me thinking and iam gonna try it. have a think about it
 
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