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Opioids The Opioid Withdrawal Megathread and FAQ

Acidophilus is capable of increasing the expression of mu-opioid and cannabinoid receptors in intestines and has morphine-like effects. (R)
ACidophilus is an enzyme that helps regulate gut pain. My mom takes it, that's the only reason I recognzied the name in this list.

Do things that 'increase the expression of the opioid receptors' negate wthdrawals?
if so, I'm going to pick some of this up for my detox kit.
 
Hi guys just so its out their im a doctor and i help lots of brownheads live a little comfortabley I believe scrict limited narcotics paracetomal and exercise are the key to beating your addiction but a new one that is helping people cope is a little thing called "Spirit healing" Ill admit its a relatively new treatment plan but it has had astonishing results so I urge all of you to ask your gp about it it might just change your life forever! good luck!
 
Day 3 - Fentanyl Withdrawal

I'm on day 3 of a cold turkey and self chosen detox. As of recent, my DOC has been fentanyl HCL - blotters and powder. I've battled with H, oxy and pretty much any opiate / opioid I can get my hands on for more than 10 years..off and on. I've been blessed with a great job which has allowed me the freedom to splurge on any narcotic I want. I've always been in control...or so I thought. My narcissistic attitude of, "I can control this, or It's not a problem because I can afford it," has blinded me. I've become an asshole to my family. My two kids, both under the age of 3 (and another one the way) have dealt with my mood swings, my lack of mental presence as well as my selfish ways. I have let them down and they don't even know it. Withdrawals, well, they suck. RLS, the shits, the sweats, my uncontrollable yawns and watering eyes as well as the feverish feeling. The depression is probably the worst. My decision to quit has been one of the most humbling choices I've made. These drugs have taken complete control over me and I can't allow it to happen any longer. To keep my withdrawals at a manageable level, I'm taking 10mgs of lope twice a day, a handful of vitamins as well as xanax and MJ to sleep. It's far from a solution but does help. This addiction is very real. The wake it leaves behind is also real and in some cases, damage caused is irreparable. I've read many blogs and postings of people in similar situations. They inspired me to try and tackle this demon head on. If this reaches anyone and helps them do the same, this posting is a success. If not, these words I leave here will serve as a reminder to me. I'll look back often to read this and flood my mind with these feelings I have in this moment. I trust that will help me continue to press forward and leave this chapter behind. I wish everyone battling these demons the best of luck. I know you can get through this and I know I will too.
 
^congratulations on your decision to get off those drugs, it's a bold move and should be proud of every minute, hour, day, week, month and year that you stay away from your drugs of choice. Well done good luck to you and take care.
 
........My narcissistic attitude of, "I can control this, or It's not a problem because I can afford it," has blinded me. I've become an asshole to my family. My two kids, both under the age of 3 (and another one the way) have dealt with my mood swings, my lack of mental presence as well as my selfish ways. I have let them down and they don't even know it. Withdrawals, well, they suck. RLS, the shits, the sweats, my uncontrollable yawns and watering eyes as well as the feverish feeling. The depression is probably the worst. My decision to quit has been one of the most humbling choices I've made. These drugs have taken complete control over me and I can't allow it to happen any longer. ..........

Hi aurai and all other fellow BL'er,

the sentence quoted above made me a shiver down my neck. It reminds me 100 % onto myself and to be true....as I read this I swear you CAN'T be such an asshole as you maybe think you're. To be honest, I read a lot onto Bluelight for quite a few years, but today I made a Registration to write an post.
I was astouned of such clear and honest words !!!! And as said I'm in the same situation.
Shorthly to me, I'm over 40 now and made the half of my life with Opiates/Opioids. Today I'm doing a taper down from Morphine & Heroine down to Kratom and this weekend is JumpOff Point.
I' made so many attempts to quit from CT to Tapering, Hospitals, NeuroJet Treatment and even 2 year LongTime Treatment ---> AND EVERY FUCKING Time I start again, because I'm so narcistic and think I can manage it......this time.....*rofl*

I'm scared as Shit, because when Withdrawal starts even from only Kratom.....in my brain are ColdTurkies saved from the harsh sort and I can't differentiate......anxiety has no ratio.
Anyway I do this, because I think when I'm longer onto drugs alive as without then I can forget it and this makes me even more scared.
Things pop up into my mind, that my brain chemistry is fully fucked and what I experience as normal with Opiates......IS gone. This normality is truly the normality I had before Oiates use, but now......Fucked Up chemistry....Welcome to new reality: Where shit is shit, good is shit, funny is shit.....all is shit.....

Anyway......that is my fear, but this time, I'll battle it as well with DXM, Loperamide and some other stuff AND I'll try some weird esoterical stuff. If anything helps.....I'll post it.

aurai.....I wish u all the Best to beat your beast. your post gave me a little strength in my fear-thoughts.
Maybe divided agony is half agony

We're not shit, we're legion.....in experience and a suxxess WD can only make you harder/stronger/faster/better.............All the Best !!
 
Ok so a new user here, but was opioid and benzo dependant for 7 years, a bunch of snowboarding/skating injuries finally got to me by 30.. PM Drs pumped me all the way up to 4 80OCs (eventually OPs, meh), and 240 30 Roxy and 120 15mg oxy a month.. Well granted I was dating the RN he liked but even after I broke up with her always gave me extra shit for no reason. Anyway long story short I tapered myself and used the RDD in Michigan to get off everything. It worked well. Was 100% about 6 weeks later and out for the worst of the WD.. Well after 2 years clean circumstances occurred and I relapsed and went on a 2 month 270mg roxy down to 160mg of OP80s the last week.. Well started going into WD, got some tramadol and took about 300 mg once or twice a day for 4 days. Tapered down to 150 last day. I got a RX or Lyrica. Day one off 150mg felt that great buzz and all WD went away. Also I have a high benzo tolerance, been on them for 11 years and I can take 3mg IR and not notice. My question is how long can I take the Lyrica without having to WD from that. It has been 8 days since last OP and 4 days since last tramadol. Right now taking 300mg every 12 hours and no WD symptoms. This is day 4 on Lyrica with Tramadol being the last opiate 4 days ago. Just looking to get clean again and any help would be appreciated. Scoured pages of Lyrica/Preg megathread but couldn't find a specific answer.So I am posting here. I was thinking 5-8 days at this dose then 2-4 days at half or less. Would I get any WD symptoms from it? Any experience appreciated. Update: Day 6 off the tram and day 14 off the OPs. Upped the Lyrica doses to 450-600 days 4 and 5. Now day 6, dropped to 225 every 12 hours. Plan to do that for another day then 2 days at 75mg. Only symptoms since starting the Lyrica is some loose stools, but I take Welcohol for my chronic stomach condition so it has been manageable... Again just wondering if I will experience any WD from the Prega on these doses for these days. Again Ty for the help and if anyone wants more info on RDD just hit me up. Best of luck to all.
 
... just wondering if I will experience any WD from the Prega on these doses for these days. Again Ty for the help and if anyone wants more info on RDD just hit me up. Best of luck to all.

How long in total have you been using Lyrica? I would be very, VERY careful with how much you are taking.

Here is a quote from this thread

For me Lyrica withdrawal is the worst withdrawal I have ever gone through. I have gone through all kinds of opiate withdrawal, and as bad as that is, Lyrica withdrawals is somehow even worse, both mentally and physically. I have heard it described as a combined opiate/benzo withdrawal and this migth be correct. I have never been through benzo withdrawal myself. To describe it a bit more in detail, mentally the feelings of anxiety, psychosis, and suicidal depression are worse (than opiate withdrawal). Never felt so depressed and miserable in my life, it tops everything I have gone through, and that's saying something. But it was really the physical effects that scared me the most. It feels like there is something seriously wrong with your body and it feels very dangerous. Like you're in a constant state of alarm and can't relax. When you go through opiate withdrawal it's like a bad flu, and as bad as it is it is somehow bearable. The physical symptoms of Lyrica withdrawal are much scarier. I truly felt like I was going to die. Suffered fron extreme hypertension, rapid heartbeat and problems with breathing, in addition to the nausea and flulike symptoms. It feels like a lot of liquid is suddenly relased in your body, filling your lungs making it difficult to breathe, also making it difficult to see or making your sight blurry. Constantly feeling like I was at the verge of a seizure, though this never happened. I think there are many reactions that are dangerous, like the electrolyte balance in your body is seriously screwed up, and more that I can't understand. This I experienced from quitting cold turkey after using very large doses (like 1500-3000 mg a day), first time after 3 months, and the second time after 5 months. But I have read about people going through the same after using 300 mg a day and not abusing it. The professional advice is to cut out 25 mg every week, or even every third week, in other words a very slow taper.


The only thing about it is, if you have not been using it for very long do not draw out the taper down. In fact, I would try and go a day without it and see gauge your physical dependence to it based on whatever withdrawal you do feel. See how far into the 24 hours you can make it before you absolutely HAVE to take it because of withdrawal symptoms (to the lyrica, not the opiates, which you should be pretty clear of by now anyway).
 
Hello all. Just wanted to say that I went through the extremely unpleasant experience of quitting heroin and benzos about 9 months ago and am still sober. The first couple months were extremely difficult and what helped me most was talking about it and being around people who understand.

If anyone just wants to talk I'm here. Reaching out is very difficult for me, but it helped so much. If you are not comfortable just know that I will not judge you or preach at you. I have no agenda other that sharing my experience and trying to help others. You need not feel embarrassed if you don't know what to say but need someone to talk to. This shit can be extremely depressing and lonely and you don't need to go through it alone.

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I was doing between 0.5-1g of heroin and 20+mg of xanax or other benzos daily. Went to detox, did a two week suboxone taper as well as three rounds of phenobarbital then went to rehab. It took a few months, but life has been so much better in nearly every way. I no longer have to lie to everyone, spend a fortune on drugs and wake up sick every day. I am 29 years old, married with a white collar job. Not the stereotypical heroin addict. I know there a lot of people out there in this same situation and feel alone and trapped, as I did.

... I've been blessed with a great job which has allowed me the freedom to splurge on any narcotic I want. I've always been in control...or so I thought. My narcissistic attitude of, "I can control this, or It's not a problem because I can afford it," has blinded me. I've become an asshole to my family.

This rings so true for me. I was able to afford my drug habit and thus thought I had it under control. I lied to my wife and all my friends about what was going on. I wish you the best of luck, and whenever the depression and cravings hit you just know that it will get better in a short time.
 
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Anyone who is going through serious opiate withdrawal should look into moderate doses of neurontin. I can't stress how much of a lifesaver it is.
 
How long in total have you been using Lyrica? I would be very, VERY careful with how much you are taking.

I am on day 6 and have dropped to 225 every 12 hours. I plan to do that tomorrow then 2 days at 75 then stop. So would be a total of 9 days on it...
From what you are saying though I will now try to go 24 hours without it and then take just 150 then 2 days later 75 then stop.. Tyvm will let ya know how it goes..
 
So 24 hours off.. Could feel it a bit but nothing awful. Going to keep stretching it at this point.. At most will take 1more dose of 75mg if it gets bad. Will update moving forward with exact dosage each day as I record it for those using this drug for a short period of time to deal with opiate or benzo withdrawal. So far so good. Wish me luck.
 
So just a quick update, instead of original taper schedule just stopped taking the Lyrica as should have been past the physical symptoms of the opiate withdrawal. Been almost a week, outside of some mile RLS, nothing to report, just got back into my regular workout routine and doing fine. Of course I have heard of Paws with that drug so will update again in a few weeks. If any interested, here is exactly what I did, after years clean went on a 2 month bender 270mg Oxycodone/day down to about 160mg OxyContin/day. Tramadol for 4 days 150mg/twice daily for 2 days then 250 for 1 then 100. Stopped that then went on the Lyrica, started at 150mg 12 hours after last dose of tram. Then up to 300-450 every twelve hours for 5 days. Then day 6 and 7 dropped to 1 dose of 150mg. Then quit that. Almost a week out right now with minimal symptoms, more psychological than physical, but I am a motivated person that does something all the way. Now for the opiate withdrawal I would say Lyrica a miracle drug as went through the worst days feeling nothing and being productive.. One caveat is I have a high benzo tolerance and I have read there is some cross tolerance so take that into account with your own situation. Right now clean again and on the road back to succes, wish everyone the best of luck and can contact me about the RDD I went through years ago or to even see if experiencing any Paws from the Lyrica, but will update in 3 weeks if none. Nothing but good thoughts to all and much respect for those going through this as I have done it with zero medication myself and I know the hell it can be, just remember for half the horror stories there are twice as many success stories you never hear about. Much respect.
 
Didn't read through this, just throwing this out there. Kratom works great to help sleep but as a Mu opioid agonist will lengthen the duration of withdrawal. You can also develop dependence to kratom. A surprisingly large number of opiate users don't know about the magic of LOPERAMIDE. Immodium. It is an opioid but has little potential for abuse as it doesn't cross the Blood Brain Barrier. It attaches to opioid receptors in your stomach which is how it helps with diarrhea. It will also help A LOT with the physical symptoms of withdrawal. They generally come in little 2mg tabs and if you have a moderate-severe tolerance you could easily take 20 mg and be fine. I have take as much as 50 mg spread throughout the day. There is no cumulative effect in the sense that while taking 4 mg is enough to stop you up, 50 won't get you any more constipated. In addition supplements can be added to help some lope cross the BBB and I have been able to even get some nice effects from it. Taking turmeric extract and whole black peppercorns work wonders. I was just throwing this out there in a not-so-detailed manner I can def go more in depth if anyone thinks that this information might be useful. Hope this helps!
 
Hi sst10808, congrats on getting off of lyrics. I am currently tapering off 10 years of 60mg oxycontin and 30mg oxycodone (for break through pain.) All of my meds were prescribed by my PM coc. I have taken 2.5 months to wean down to 30mg oxycontin and 10mg oxycodone. I am suprised that I am still having symptoms 6 weeks after my last oxycontin cut. I would like to lower my dose, but I was hoping to stabilize here before going down further. I am wondering if through such a long taper if I might be reducing the PAWS after I am finally off. I know the PAWS can last for months or longer. Does anyone have experience tapering and hitting a wall as your dose gets below 45 - 50mg or so? I made the decision to go off of the medications, so my PM doctor is letting me withdraw at my own pace. Also, because I am over 50 years old, she is afraid of the shock CT would have on my ststem. I am so done with these meds. I have no desire to use anymore I just want off and I never take more than I am supposed to take. My symptoms are extreme anxiety and depression as well as numb lips, arms and legs. No stomach issues yet. PLEASE HELP!
 
No withdrawal from opiates!?!? WTF!!!!

Unfortunately you are gonna be very uncomfortable unless you taper with a prescribed methadone withdraw. I am experiencing the most insane bout of lack of withdrawal and I just don't understand why. I was told that it could be because the heroin I am using is pure but I just don't buy it. I relapsed about 2 months ago using around 5-10 bags a day intranasaly and I have never had this happen before. I took a 4 milligram suboxone regardless just because I could not believe this was going down like this. Has anyone else felt this recently? I usually am so Ill I have to check into a detox after. But the first 36 hours without dope the worst symptoms were a few sweat flashes and light diarrhea? I don't believe it myself. Can anyone explain what the fuck is going on? I mean it is very good quality and I have never had this happen to me before but since I started getting from this new guy.
 
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^Depending on when you took the suboxone it can prevent the withdrawal for about 24-48 hours.
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Hey guys, I detoxed exactly one year ago from my low dose Bupe habit and now it is time again. I have been taking Tilidine and Kratom over the last week after having my last dose of Bupe on sunday (~0,3mg) because the WD last year was traumatic to say the least (I am underweight and could not eat for at least 3 days due to the intense puking).
So this time I will detox the short acting and low potent Tilidine which also contains Naloxone.

I'd like to hear some opinions on that. I got Gabapentin, some Valium, Loperamide, MCP, Magnesium+B-Vitamins etc. Maybe overkill but I need to do it for real this time and could not if it were the same kind of WDs like last year. I plan to take the Diaz only on the first 3 days for sleep and then maybe some Gabapentin, the rest as needed.

Thx in advance,

Zerwas aka Dicktate
 
Help with Opiate Withdrawals, Naturally

Hello BL! :0) Newbie here. First, I must apologize because this is my first post and I'm not sure I'm even doing this right. [Throw tomatoes here. ;) ]
I've been a lurker for 6 or so years and really, wanted to collect all of the research I possibly could before going from poppy seed tea to poppy pods, which I did about 3 years or so ago. Before I did that, I researched pods, addiction, withdrawals, pain management- homeopathic, holistic pain management (etc.) at least 8 months before deciding to advance to pods. I didn't go into it blindly, that's for sure. I'd like to share my story and experience with you guys and hope that somebody might be able to take something from it and use it for their benefit. Every little bit helps in this game! We all know that.

What brought me to seeking pain meds to begin with, began about 6 years ago. I was a full-time student (with 2 teenage kids at home) and I began--seemingly overnight--to experience excruciating migraines. They lasted no less than 3 days- 72 hours of full-on pain, as if somebody were shooting me in the head non-stop. I mean the pain was indescribable. It's worth mentioning that I've had 3 kids "natural" and am a firm believer in "mind over matter". I was like a birthing Ninja, no kidding. I had that stuff under control! But these migraines made that look like a picnic. I've just never experienced 3 days straight of hellish pain with no transitional relief of any kind.

So, I did what most people do: I went to my doctor. He prescribed Lortabs, as I'd expected him to (thankfully) and because I have a fairly high pain barrier, he also prescribed Fiorcet- thinking the caffeine would help too. Except the combination made me nauseous, and so he then added Phenergan to the list. I took them as prescribed sometimes, but most of the time, I took 1/2 of a Lortab in the morning and the other half in the evening so that 30 of them would last an entire month. (It's ok. You can laugh. I do too looking back.) I used the Lortab for more for a preventative measure though, rather than waiting until that wicked hell train was already crashing through my skull. And so that was my routine for about a year.

And for that first year, it sort of worked. One Lortab a day is a joke, but I realized I was a war with not only my pain, but the possibility of addiction. It's just utter madness to take pain meds and not factor that very ugly truth into it, and so I always kept that at the forefront of my mind; watching my intake, persistently and vigilantly. Even so, the migraines grew in both magnitude and frequency and before much longer, I had to drop out of college entirely; which broke my heart. My children and I aren't well off, and I was fighting so hard to set a good example for them, especially. My depression grew stronger and the Lortab just wasn't cutting it. Sometimes I would be down on the couch, sobbing in pain and really thinking that I could possibly stroke out or begin having seizures from the brain trauma. Our brains just aren't created for that kind of pain for that long of a duration.

I returned to my doctor and we discussed my options. He increased my dosage, and naturally, the little (Minnie Me junkie) voice inside was delighted, but I was also hesitant due to the addiction factor now increasing as well. Regardless, I stayed on that routine for another year or so. But I just didn't feel good- and I don't mean the pain only. My liver hurt, I was always nauseous- despite having Phenergan- I just wasn't at my best and I was only 40 or so! The migraines had certainly taken a toll over the last few years, but the pills weren't helping either. I began researching natural pain medication and herbal anti-nauseants, etc. I learned that ginger is excellent for quelling nausea (and dyspepsia and all sorts of other stomach disorders), and also, I learned that cayenne pepper acts as both a blood cleanser as well as a mild analgesic. So, I began taking cayenne and ginger supplements.

I also learned that Milk Thistle is one of the strongest, natural liver cleansers in the world. And, Black Seed Oil (Nigella Sativa) is a virtual panacea for all sorts of things: the stuff is phenomenal (anti-inflammatory, antimicrobial, antifungal. it's called "The King's Cure-All"). But also, it's an excellent natural potentiator. SO, I began taking herbal concoctions and noticed I felt much better. Except for the pain thing! And that's when I stumbled across this place. :0) I learned about poppy seed tea (PST) and was hopeful, for the first time in a long time. I researched PST for approximately 6 months or so, and when I felt that I was educated enough on the subject, I ordered some. It allowed me the relief I was looking for, and after 6 or so months of slowly replacing my Tabs (and other pills) with the PST, I asked my doctor to take me off of all pharmaceuticals. I had learned through experimentation that I could take care of myself- naturally- without the help of a doctor who was basically grabbing for straws with my health. He had no idea what was causing my migraines after two years. I chose a radical, self-induced regimen, but it worked. I had more energy and noticed a comorbidity going on with the poppy seeds- it put my head chatter to sleep also. Completely. I was able to focus on things in a way I'd never experienced before. These were good things.

After a full year on the seeds, I was able to re-enroll in college and continue working on my Associates Degree in Behavioral Science. I've always been interested in drugs since I was a young child. Not in taking them, necessarily, but studying the correlations between the body and mind while taking various substances. And I basically became my own guinea pig. But that's ok! So did Freud, and Pavlov and many other people. (Freud, for instance, was a coke head for years. He even claimed that he posited many theories and such while geeked out of his mind on coke.)

I felt the need to study drugs academically, because to be forewarned is to be forearmed. I knew at every step, addiction would be waiting. I was going to need all the help I could get. I simply couldn't "yoga" this kind of long-lasting pain away, however. Having some type of pain medication was an an absolute must. And so I decided to get a CPC/Certification in Substance Abuse at my school as well. Despite the PST helping me through many cramming sessions, I was still being blasted with two and three day migraines. It was beginning to affect my grades, because some days, my test would be on a day that I had a migraine and that type of thing is an academic-killer.

Anyway, I knew I had maxed out my seed potency for the levels of pain that I was enduring. I simply needed something stronger. I want to clarify for the record, I seldom used the seeds to "try to get high". Getting high was not my goal. Killing the pain was. I simply wanted to be able to function like other people and be up and about- pain free. I wanted my life back. :(

So I began to research dried poppy pods for pain management. For the next 6 to 8 months, I studied everything I could find about poppy pods- everything. When the day came for me to cross that thresh hold, I was not unprepared. I already had purchased a grinder and I already had a recipe ready- ginger for nausea- whatever else I needed- I was set. Throughout any and all opiate consumption, I've kept my drug levels down. I do know that once you begin to "kick it up a notch" because you've had a bad day, etc.; you're already seduced. And I'm not going to say I never did that! But I kept myself in check. I wasn't careless. I want to be a doctor someday. I know the risks and I have a lot to lose- all the way around; just as we all do.

I experimented with the pods and discovered what worked for me: one teacup of pod tea every morning. Now, I know many people would shriek at that, and consider it a big no no, however, for the kind of pain I was constantly being assaulted with, this was necessary to prevent them from developing altogether. It was an absolute life-saver. Not all drug stories are negative. Naturally, our world has purposely conditioned the masses to collectively stigmatize any drug use for self-medication, but that's just ignorance and fear-mongering. Ignorance is a dangerous weapon.

After 6 month of drinking a cup of pod tea every morning like clock-work- and never ever increasing my dose- I graduated from my college with my Associate's Degree in Behavioral Sciences, with a CPC/Certification in Substance Abuse- Dean's List/Honor Roll. :0) That was two years ago. I still have my morning cup of pod tea faithfully (and still, never increase the dose) and I am now only one semester away from receiving my Bachelor's Degree in Psychology. I've made the Dean's List every semester and have been invited to join our local Society of Leadership and Success. I'm scheduled to begin working on my Master's in Forensic Psychology in the fall of 2016, and ultimately, my doctorate in Clinical Psychology thereafter. I got my life back. :)

I know all of this is one hell of a long introduction, and again, my apologies, but I say all of that to say- I have much experience with both poppy seeds and poppy pods, as well as my fair share of experiencing horrible withdrawals from the pods, and I want to offer what I can in the area of what helped me during my darkest (withdrawal) days of my life. Here's my experience of those 30 days without my medicine and what I did to counterattack the withdrawals. It's not the Thomas Recipe, but these things sure made the month a little more doable.

Withdrawal Report:

Week 1

Biological Processes:
Increased perspiration, runny nose, sneezing, malaise, depression, feelings of hopelessness (not to be confused with suicidal ideations, etc.), fatigue, lack of interest, heightened desire to isolate, irritability, Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS), insomnia, death-belly, sex drive is pleading with me to save it. I don't care.

Medicine:
1/2 of Benadryl in the morning, a whole Benadryl at night to help with sleep and help stifle the sneezing and runny nose (histamine-related).
2 "Relax and Sleep" herbal capsules (at night only) from the Dollar Tree= Melatonin- which helps to reset your natural sleep cycle, Valerian (which is where Valium comes from), and Chamomile- which acts as a mild sedative. Combined with Benadryl, the melatonin, valerian, and chamomile together feel like 1 part Klonopin and 1 part Ambien. The stuff really helps. Also, it effectively kills RLS fast.

Milk Thistle- cleanses the liver and helps to kick out the opiates much faster so the withdrawals are significantly lessened in both intensity and longevity.

Black Seed Oil- Aside from all of the many benefits this essential oil provides for the body, it's used regularly in Eastern countries (in many medical facilities) as an opiate withdrawal medicine. It lessens withdrawals significantly if taken daily and proactively. Give it a chance.

Diet: Fresh vegetables (steamed/roasted) with red meats (protein is so important at this stage), green tea, chamomile tea, ginger tea- basically- drink lots of herbal teas! You will not be disappointed, and yes, they help tremendously. Green tea is loaded with antioxidants that repair damage to the body on a cellular level.

Multivitamins: Again, SO important.

Ibuprofin- 3 in the morning and 3 at night- faithfully.

Week 2

Biological Processes: All of the above.
Medicines: All of the above.

Week 3

Biological Processes: Rage-face. Get used to it. It's going to be your constant companion for another week or so. Depression lessens. Sex drive has died and gone to hell. Sneezing almost gone entirely, runny nose is better too. Still feeling fatigues, malaise is still there too, but not strongly. Sex drive is starting to pick up a bit. Noticeable increased appetite. Emotions still all over the place- a car commercial could make me cry. Alas, there are good days here and there too.

Medicines: same things.

Week 4

Significant improvement in mood, laughing easily- things are actually freaking funny! Things are even fun again. Especially sex. :) Feeling tinglies all over my body- almost as if it's vibrating- it feels like pure energy rushing through me and I realize that this is what it means to feel ALIVE. Happiness comes easily and I catch myself smiling while I'm driving. Hope is a constant companion. I feel stronger than I have in so long, both on the inside and outside. I want to take walks and take photos of things again and I have a new burst of energy to write music and sing. I can literally feel the endorphins flooding my brain- all by themselves! :0) I feel like a child again.

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For any of you who are reading this, please know that yes, withdrawals are pure hell. (You know this. We all do.) But you absolutely must keep your vision of "week 4" in your scope. Death-belly and malaise and rage-face, etc.- it doesn't last forever! Only a month or so of it and then I promise, your head is clear and heart is full of good stuff again and most importantly, you get your self-respect back. You get your life back.

Part of succeeding here is knowing your triggers. Don't date your triggers. ;-) It's easy to look the other way and fall (seductively) right back into it. When I was going through weeks 1-3, I seriously had some pretty scary thoughts. I really didn't think it was going to get better. Everywhere you go, there's a grey cloud above, but again- it doesn't last, and by week 4- you're on the other side of that river looking back at the last of your former self going under...it's ok to let him/her go.

They say that withdrawals from poppy pods are some of the worst that a person can experience (besides Methadone). I'm thinking this is true. ;0)

No matter what type of addiction you may have, and no matter just how hopeless those withdrawals are making you feel, please know that the sun IS going to shine again and it's F-ing beautiful.

God bless!

And thanks for letting me share. x
 
Didn't read through this, just throwing this out there. Kratom works great to help sleep but as a Mu opioid agonist will lengthen the duration of withdrawal. You can also develop dependence to kratom. A surprisingly large number of opiate users don't know about the magic of LOPERAMIDE. Immodium. It is an opioid but has little potential for abuse as it doesn't cross the Blood Brain Barrier. It attaches to opioid receptors in your stomach which is how it helps with diarrhea. It will also help A LOT with the physical symptoms of withdrawal. They generally come in little 2mg tabs and if you have a moderate-severe tolerance you could easily take 20 mg and be fine. I have take as much as 50 mg spread throughout the day. There is no cumulative effect in the sense that while taking 4 mg is enough to stop you up, 50 won't get you any more constipated. In addition supplements can be added to help some lope cross the BBB and I have been able to even get some nice effects from it. Taking turmeric extract and whole black peppercorns work wonders. I was just throwing this out there in a not-so-detailed manner I can def go more in depth if anyone thinks that this information might be useful. Hope this helps!

I have Kratom at home and also will have loperamide tomorrow afternoon. What I havnt seen anyone post about is AFTER they're done using loperamide. Okay so say you use it for 5 days just to get passed the worst of it.. Now does that mean day 6 and so on... You'll be fine? Reason I ask is because I don't want to prolonge the withdrawals, assuming by what everyone says lope just "masks" it? Anyone answer? Lol
 
I know I Kind of stated this in my above post.. But everyone says loperamide really helps with withdrawals and all. But how long can you take it without suffering wuthdrawals from the lope.. I only wanna take it for the few days I'll be in withdrawal, have no intentions of taking it for a long period of time. Anyone with insight, please reply, thanks ;)
 
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