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Opioids The Opioid Withdrawal Megathread and FAQ

So I have struggled with opiate addiction for over 17 years. I went on methadone maintenance. It worked, however, getting off of it was by far worse than kicking pills or heroin. I recently decided to kick heroin cold turkey. The only thing that got me through was taking 6 300mg gabapentin every 4 to 6 hours. I think that it should be a common staple in opiate detox. I ended up running out of gabapentin and then felt the major symptoms of withdrawal. I had to go inpatient for a 6 day detox. I came out feeling great. I need to mention that I felt like crap until the doctor put me on cogentin and haldol (I suffer from bi polar and psychosis as well as depression and anxiety). The point of this is that gabapentin is not used in opiate detox, but it should be.
 
For myself, Suicidal Ideations are always potent when detoxing. Best of luck. Maybe try some gabapentin and possibly go inpatient
 
Hi
Firstly I apologise if this is in the wrong place; I did a search on Elimidrol but couldn't find a relevant thread that wasn't closed.
I've been addicted to heroin for over ten years (on and off) and I'm fed up. I'm in the UK and there is about a month waiting list for treatment unless I can afford a few grand to go private. (I can't) I'm too much of a wuss for cold turkey. I've done cold turkey a few times but my recent attempts have been a lot harder than I remember them being before, the hot and cold sweats and other symptoms have been unbearable.
After browsing the internet I came across a few supplements that claim to alleviate opiate withdrawal, elimidrol being the one that appeals to me the most.
However, it's $75 for the day formula and $75 for the night formula, plus $56 shipping to the UK- that's roughly £159. Ouch.
Does anyone have any experience of elimidrol? Or know someone who does? I'd just like some advice from someone/somewhere I can trust before spending that much!
Thanks
 
I haven't heard of elimidrol (eliminate?) But I assure u there is no magic pill for this. Taper..Taper...Taper. it's gotten worse for me over time too but I do think vitamin supplements are needed (meal replacement, vitamin c, etc). There are loads of gimmicks online bexcuse ppl are desperate and in need but if there was anything there would be a thread on it. Vitamin C does lessen symptoms proven for me. U might not notice if the wd is severe but know it is working
 
I'm hoping someone can help me with a methadone taper. If someone has about 33ml of methadose (so basically 33mg of methadose - which is equivalent to 330mg of regular methadone - here there is a new formula that is 10X stronger).

For someone that has about a gram/day habit, what would be a good and 'relatively painless' short taper? Where to start and how much to drop per day and should it be dosed daily until it finishes?

I was thinking:

75mg (equivalent)
65mg
55mg
45mg
35mg
20mg
10mg
5mg
jump?

Can anyone help with this?
 
Advice on withdrawing from Dilaudid
Hi there, I'm new here so hopefully everything I post is ok. I have been taking for 4 months straight. It started with eating about 6mg a night to now I am snorting 16-24 mg a night. About a week ago I did go one night without doing any and by noon the next day I started to feel extreme discomfort in my arms and legs, I couldn't stop moving them it was unbearable. I didnt think only take the pills once a day at what I considered a relatively low dose would send me into withdrawal.
So now I want to stop and I have some questions. I have 8 pills left, I took last night off and am already feeling under the weather, should I take a bit at the first sign of symptoms or should I push it for as long as I can handle and take something at that point but less then what I usually do. Does any one have experience coming off a similar dose? How long and difficult will this be? What are some other tips you can give me to make this process more bearable. Like I said I didn't consider this to be a large or frequent habit compared to my friends so I didn't expect to get sick at all, so Im hoping it won't be as intense as a typical withdrawal.
Thanks in advanced
 
Just tried this and can't believe how great it works. loperamide recipe Look it up for anyone having horrible withdrawal symptoms or needing help quiting
 
Ive read quite a lot on loperamide in huge doses for withdrawal as well as sodium ascorbate. Ive just ordered the day and night formula of elimidrol but after paying $56 shipping from the USA to the UK I've received an email from UPCS saying my items are being held as 'charges' need to be paid. Not sure what charges these may be as i have to contact them to sort it but im not impressed!
I wish id gone down the loperamide route now though, as I can buy it in the UK a lot quicker and cheaper. Did you use just loperamide alone for your withdrawal, and what were you using it to withdraw from if you don't mind me asking? I'm trying to withdraw from heroin and i'm quite a heavy user so I'm going to suffer whichever method I use I think!
 
This is more of a neuroscience post, but I thought maybe you guys could help me out. Ever since I withdrawn from Furanylfentanyl CT ( I had a huge 100mg/day habit, equivalent to about 16,000mg of morphine), I have been experiencing some serious twitching, stuttering as well as occasional hallucinations (shadow people, moving walls etc.), It has been more than 6 weeks and it hasn't got better, also my hands are very shaky and it's very hard to think or focus, some times I mix up words and everything I say never makes sense anymore. What are the full pharmacological properties of furanylfentanyl? And what could be causing this?
 
I used just loperamide. If you search the recipe it tells you to use some other ingredients but those are not nessecary. I used about 20-40 pills. The only bad part is that it take 2-3 hours to kick in so I would wake up at 5 am take the pills and then go back to sleep and feel good at 7 when I woke up. I was using 30-90 mgs of oxy and/or100-500 mg of u47700 this is the best and worst drug ever. Now the hardest part for me is when I'm clean 1-2 days later the urge to use again has me trapped so I keep going back to using then going through this wd process and then when I'm finally clean I make a horrible decision to use again and I'm stuck in this fucking loop. Did you get the elimidorol? How did it work?
 
Anxious.Individual said:
This is more of a neuroscience post, but I thought maybe you guys could help me out. Ever since I withdrawn from Furanylfentanyl CT ( I had a huge 100mg/day habit, equivalent to about 16,000mg of morphine), I have been experiencing some serious twitching, stuttering as well as occasional hallucinations (shadow people, moving walls etc.), It has been more than 6 weeks and it hasn't got better, also my hands are very shaky and it's very hard to think or focus, some times I mix up words and everything I say never makes sense anymore. What are the full pharmacological properties of furanylfentanyl? And what could be causing this?
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I'm afraid I can't answer your question from a neuroscience point of view, but as you're aware, 100mg/day is massive so it isn't that much of a surprise that you're still feeling off. I c/t'd from butyrfentanyl earlier this year, and while I was feeling mostly back to normal after about 3 weeks, I was only taking around 20-30mg/day towards the end. Fent analogues are particularly brutal to withdraw from, and (contrary to what I thought beforehand) can last about as long as morphine. I imagine you've probably also had a fair amount of difficulty sleeping/eating, so this will make you feel worse for wear too. I'd probably give it more time before getting yourself worked up over 'permanent damage'.
 
Sighhhh I screwed up. I've been 19 days percocet clean and took a 40mg OP But I have a bad tooth infection with 3 abscess in the back of my mouth the pain was so bad. My question is if i just take it a couple of days until the antibiotics kick in for real pain how much damage have I done to my almost 3 wks clean? Will I get completely sick again? I feel like s**t about myself right now but I had already wondered what about acute painful situations, my initial dosing was 80 to 100mg of percocet a day also I have no way of getting more past 2 days. Ty
 
Eminem4life! said:
Anyone?
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look dude you were in pain, i assume you were prescribed it? either way you have a medical need, so you shouldn't feel awful.
as long as you use it sparingly and as little as possible you shouldn't develop a habit, but be careful.

do it for eminem
 
I doubt two days are going to hurt you after 19 days clean outside of amplifying anxiety and depression caused by cravings. If you binge out and consistently dose way above the smallest amount needed to augment the pain, you might wind up feeling mildly flu-ish for a day or two. Everyone reacts different to pain, especially oral pain but a 40mg OC after nearly 3 weeks clean is overkill. I know how it goes though, It's really easy to convince yourself you're going to have more pain or are in more pain than you actually are, especially after having just gotten clean.
 
I have no idea how to use this site im sorry. I'm so scared. Ok so I waited 22 hours then took 4mg suboxone under tongue today didn't do a damn thing waited a hour did 2ng more. Nothing. 4mg more 2 hours later. Got so frustrated did 4 more mg 2 hours later. No relief. Not worse but no better so hot cold sweaty it's to the point I thought about offing myself. So I did a cotton rinse after the last sub does and felt so much better maybe a bit cold but fine. Why?? Shouldn't it have blocked a stupid rinse? My pupils got small so I know it wasn't in my head. But now what do I do? When can I take more subs I want off I just can't feel so damn sick all alone I'm scared I won't make it out. Do I have to wait or did the subs stay on my receptors???? Please help alone and scared and very confused
 
Santaria
What's your usual dose?
Subs only partially fill your receptors so if you're used to dosing high, it can take a bit for equilibrium to happen where you don't feel sick. MMT may have been a better fit in this case unless you're doing a quick taper.
Hang in there, redosing will not help, you should feel relief soon
 
I'm female and more than likely a lot older than you as I'm much more mature. Why yes I was prescribed the OP's because I would hope no one in there right mind would waste good cash on them. I'm doing this for my kids ty which is the reason I was spazing about having to take something after 19 days. I was prescribed 40 mg of regular percs a day had a new student Dr come in and decide to switch me to OP'S and 20 mg of percs a day but the OP'S were useless so yes I found ways to obtain more,but it got out of hand for me at 80 to 100mg a day since in my late teens and early 20's i CT from 300mg a day and didn't want to live like that again I never touched them again or see my children with an addict mom until a serious car wreck about 2 yrs ago so in all he probably saved my life although I have no idea of how to live with real pain now but still determined. As far as the Eminem pun.... Dude I'm an old school fan there as you can't insult me.
 
Ty chelle for your nice response. It was an OP not an OC if it were an OC I would agree and took 20mg I only took them a day and a half and am back on track. Strangely I've had no cravings this time. I think because I just simply decided to do it myself instead of running out tbh lol but yes your right about convincing yourself of many things lol ty again. ?
 
My super EASY heroin detox

I was a really really heavy IV user, shooting a brick (50 bags) of "summer jam", "undercover" or equally fire every single day for the past year. I've gone to inpatient before a few years back and I've also gotten clean on my own before. Each time it was hell on earth for about 2 to 3 days no matter what I did. This time I managed to swap my massive habit for a 4mg/day suboxone habit within one month by following these steps. You will need access to considerable Rx but if you can get your hands on all this its worth it. Ok here we go. You'll need approx 30 10mg methadone pills, 60 .5mg clonodine, 5 2mg Xanax (or equiv benzo).

If all goes well you should feel 100% in 2 to 3 days, however those days won't be spent in utter agony. Instead they will be spent watching TV and doing a lot of good sleeping. First this goes without saying, you'll want to cut your dope habit back as much as possible before you begin. Now the idea with this method is to further dramatically but painlessly lower your tolerance with a 5 to 10 day methadone taper (depending on how many you have access to). I could tolerate day 1/50mg 2/40mg 3/30mg 4,5,6,7/30mg, 8/25mg, 9/25mg, 10/20mg. On days 11, 12, and 13 go back to a SMALL dose of any short acting opiate (heroin is fine). Day 14 is the big day. Use your own judgement to determine how much clonodine you can safely take. Taking high doses on your first 2 days helps puts you to sleep when you usually cannot. Take the high clonodine dose on the morning of day 14 and wait a full 24 hours after your last shot before you begin taking 4mg suboxone every 45 minutes until you feel fairly comfortable. I found 20mg my first day to be the right dose however quickly stepped down 4mg at a time every other day until I got down to 4mg every 24 to 30 hours. The Xanax is basically there just for emergency. On my first detox night I took two tabs to help with sleeping. I never needed them at any other time.

I hope this helps someone out there that thinks home detox from a serious habit is impossible. I know I felt that way for a very long time. Now I have a month clean time behind me and I can't stop crying tears of joy every time I sit back and think about what i've managed to overcome. The last 10 years and prime of my life have essentially been stolen from me by this shit disease. The good news, it's preventable and we do have a cure.

If there is anyone that needs help or just wants to chat PM me anytime.

booooooooostemente!@
 
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