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The Old and Overgrown Methylone Thread (11-2002 to 2-2007)

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^ sounds right :)

.. Although I literally feel nothing, no stimulant properties or anything (except for a banging heart and an unquenchable desire to cum 6 hours onwards)
 
cerebral_cortex said:
the first 2 times, i definitely felt the boosters...but not much of anything the 3rd time. i understand that boosters don't do much, other than increase the stimulatant effects...but i kind of like that sometimes....i've searched alot on this board and others about boosters, and yes, most people seem to think it's not worth it...but, still, most people wind up doing at least one small booster...
Boosters do the same for me - exactly. My initial dose is usually only about 120-130 mg since I'm relatively sensitive to all drugs. My boosters vary from about 60 mg to 100 mg. I take 3-4 boosts that finally give just some extra stimulation that may occasionally be a bit annoying.

I always drink a few beers together with methylone. But pot ruins the methylone high and I got hungry after smoking weed. Normally I have no need to eat during the whole night with methylone.
 
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I'm about to try methylone for the first time tommorow.

200mg dose. I've had really good mdma before. I know everyone says there are so many differences between the two. I just want to know if there is the extreme euphoria as with mdma. I don't really care about the rush, or tactile sensations, or empathogenic type things. I'm just wondering if it provides an extreme euphoria. thanks
 
melange said:
I'm about to try methylone for the first time tommorow.

200mg dose. I've had really good mdma before. I know everyone says there are so many differences between the two. I just want to know if there is the extreme euphoria as with mdma. I don't really care about the rush, or tactile sensations, or empathogenic type things. I'm just wondering if it provides an extreme euphoria. thanks

It can, there is no guarentee that it will though. Like all psychedelics, set and setting are key. My first three experiements with methylone did not reveal any magic. Then for my fourth try, I was in the right setting (alone with my girlfriend, at night, in our tent in the desert) and we both had a +4. To call it "euphoria" is unsatisfactory...it was beyond "euphoric." It was Grace, and every bit as valid as MDMA. But again, set and setting were key.

Do not expect anything "MDMA-like." about methylone. It is a different animal. You may get effects that are just as "good" as MDMA...but do not expect them.
 
It's cheaper on average than MDMA powder, both by weight and per dose...
 
Stoned Again said:
seems expensive considering a dose is what, 200mgs?

180mg on the dot for me. Methylone seems to have (for me anyway) a small latitude as far as dosages go....less than 175mg is not enough and more than 200mg is too much. In fact, I have not gone above 190mg and won't...180mg is plenty.
 
I wouldn't consider either MDMA or methylone to really be worth the price... but I do think that methylone is a better bargain in terms of its effects. Of course, for some reason, despite not having used MDMA all that much over the years, I no longer seem to have "the magic" with it, so I prefer methylone's effects for the most part. I actually find them equally as rewarding, except that methylone does not leave me drained and depressed, and it feels more "real".
 
Stoned Again said:
but do you like it? Do you consider it worth the price?

Yes, I love methylone. One of the best psychedelics I have taken. I don't consider the price, since I bought my supply many years ago. However, it was well worth the price I paid and I will never have to buy more.
 
^ Scuse me while all the LE tune in to see the size of MGS's stash! The only answer you'll get from anyone careful about such things is 'enough'...

Actually on the comedown side, some of the MDMA gets metabolized to alpha-methyldopamine which is treated as dopamine by the body (reuptaken etc) but is only a fraction as active, leading to depression. Methylone would be metabolized to alpha-methylnoradrenaline, which while again only partially as active as noradrenaline in vivo, has a much less catestrophic effect on mood afterwards.

Definitely prefer methylone to MDMA for the very reason I've just stated; MDMA comedowns are just too much for what it provides these days.
 
hugo24 said:
If you think Methylone is too short,its worth repeating here: f&b tried 200mg 3h after a 10mg dose of AMT and reported almost a doubling of the peak.Anyone else tried this?

This may be another compound that would benefit from being made into a sustained release preparation using an ion exchange resin (eg Amberlite IRC-50(H) ). This would allow for a constant, steady release in the GI tract and as such possibly extend the peak smoothly unlike a booster dose taken later that hits you all at once. I reckon that an ion exchange resin could extend the peak by anything up to another 75%
 
methylone is psychedelic but it also has some properties of highly abusable stimulants. . . while giving genuine insight it can also be used for confidence in a social setting. if used excessively for that, say, every weekend twice at dosages of 300mg upwards taken over teh course of an evening, approx. 100mg each time, and also occasionally during the week, it will create its own set of problems not that much unlike mdma, though seemingly milder ... mood swings and exhaustion and all this entails.

Add to this the fact that the peak gets shorter and shorter and the comedown ever longer if used this way, and you know that that methyloen does have a high addiction potential and ought not to be taken lightly. At first it may allow for this, but its addiction potential is for real.

Personally, I do like to use it, and I probably use it more than is reasonable from time to time, and I am familiar first-hand with what I have described above. But due to my extended experience with a variety of drugs, I do not think I am addicted to it, and I take breaks of a few weeks whenever the experience seems to be turning a little sour.

But I do know someone with considerably less experience with drugs in general who IS addicted to it socially, and it was me who introduced him to it... be careful with this one.

Prior to using too heavily, consider that.
 
I love MDMA - alot! But I have a problem that I hope methylone can fix; when i'm on MDMA I almost feel sedated and i can hardly stand up because of the heavy bodyload it gives me. Besides i look completely retarted when rolling(eyes completely screwed, really bad jaw-clench) - so retarded that most people think there's something really wrong with me. Those 2 things combined makes partying on MDMA a bit difficult, at least at raves and such. So my questions are: how is the bodyload on methylone and what are the visible physical effects on the user? I'd like to be able to party on empathogens without being asked if I need an ambulance :)
 
/\ m1 is more stimulating and less wobbly for sure, in my experience.

m1 also generally gives me less of that retard face than mdma does. but sometimes, especially in combination with alcohol and from peaktime onwards - particularly if I redose and if I don't space my use enough - it soes happen to me. a friend really looks retarded on m1 though, he just gets this wide-eyed yet dull stare with occasional rolling eyes and lockjaw with a silly grin... far more so as he uses it more frequently.
 
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