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The Old and Overgrown Methylone Thread (11-2002 to 2-2007)

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well, mgs, i know this from experience. i always have to take a larger doses than my friends. the first time i took 2c-e i started with 16 mg, nothing with the exception of some stimulation and an enhancement of music. next i tried 20 mgs, same deal. long story short i found my appropriate doses to be between 50-60 mgs. same with mdma, 1 good pill doesnt cut it, i need at least two, the list goes on. i dont use these kinds of drugs very often so its not a tolorance issue.
 
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Whoa, sorry to hear that man. I think MGS was just trying to be harm-reduction-o-rific with his comments and stuff you know. Like there's that very small possibility that you're ultra-sensitive to one drug you've never taken before or something like that...
 
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Another good point. I always start low with a drug I don't know. Rhyming not intended.

As an example, I have normal sensitivity to most amphetamines (amphetamine, meth, MDMA) but I am extremely hypersensitive to MDA. Who would have known?
 
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MGS speaks the truth. In fact, if memory serves correct, a study was done on Explosion and the contents were far from pure methylone. I'll post the link to this shortly if I can find the damn thing. At any rate, actual methylone is still out there. The RC market has become rather clandestine lately, but the imaginative and persistent Google searcher does not go unrewarded...
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Regarding "Explosion" and methylone, there has been a lot of misinformation about "Explosion" including an article on Erowid (sadly not infallible). Explosion seems to contain some additives which give it colouring and a strong vanilla smell. It was marketed as a 'room odoriser' to avoid selling it for human consumption. Its effects are substantially as methylone powder-- one vial is approximately equivalent to 200mg or so of powder.

Either methylone powder or Explosion will give you a hangover if you take enough-- lack of sleep, some anxiety, etc-- rather like MDMA but less pronounced an shorter lasting. It seems to be like MDMA in that the 'hangover' gets more pronounced the more you take it.
 
enquirewithin said:
Regarding "Explosion" and methylone, there has been a lot of misinformation about "Explosion" including an article on Erowid (sadly not infallible).
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What mis-information? If you're talking about this article, there's nothing wrong with that. If you're mister smarty pants and you think you know better, you can easily contact them:

If you have additional GC/MS or other data related to Explosion to share, or information about Inpact, please let us know at corrections at erowid.org."
 
How does methylone differs from mdma?

Woud you think methylone is more entactogen, fun, pleasant than mdma in anyway?


I'm asking this because I don't have much money left, and despite methylone seems to be really nice, I'm not sure I need to try it when I can have mdma at anytime (what would make methylone worth trying compared to mdma?)
 
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For me:

Methylone vs MDMA : You can think without focussing real hard, eat, almost have sex on Methylone. It also gives me a huuuge grin for hours (Poster Campaign: "Don't Gurn..... Grin!"). When its finished you can carry on with your day / night / dance your ass off, without feeling a-bit-wierdy.

On another perspective... Its a bit weaker than E, you might need to give yourself a shove to feel truely grand, but rather than coming in waves, I find a lovely buzz of euphoria hits me continually. Certainly I would say its worth trying.

But thats just me
 
yeah far less comedowns with methylone, except for a little bit of an empty feeling straight afterwards, where you feel like doing ANYthing just to feel a bit like did just before... more methylone, perhaps another beer, a big fat spliff, or some E or some G or indeed naythign else seems a good idea . . . also, far less of a push, feels way more natural. very pleasant mind and body high, and yes you CAN have sex on it realyl easily. Actually it makes me SO uninihibited and open and unashamed of my desires it's amazing.
 
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I guess its better than starting a new one.
Anyways, I tried about 120mg of methylone on Saturday and I had a pretty glowing experience. After seeing my reaction to this chemical, my wife is now interested in trying it. I would like to take some with her as soon as possible, but I'm not sure if I should or not. Does methylone cause your serotonin to be drained? If I were to re-dose about 72 hours after initially dosing would I still experience the euphoric effects? If I were to dose 2 times in the same week am I risking depression problems or any other bad side effects?

I'm all about harm reduction and my instinct tells me this would be a bad idea, but I would like to hear what people have to say. With MDMA I like to wait at least a month between experiences to maximize the euphoria. Is methylone similar?
 
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hehe, funny you are asking this . . . sounds like you don't wanna do it but you do and want someone to say "it's fine." It is ;)

With prolonged use, methylone will lose some of its magic + it will also cause harsher comedowns (more immediate than MDMA, where the comedown may be only after 2-3 days, but sometimes as dysphoric). Well, that's just my own experience. I like to wait a month these days as well, between doses -- but I remember that initially, there were few if any comedown effects, and that i dosed with pretty short intervals sometimes, with very nice effects. You will probably enjoy it if you use it again so soon, perhaps you want to take 150mg+ in order to get where you were last time. After that I'd wait a month until I'd use again... and I would make a note of my mood afterwards, for three to four days, to see if it had any adverse effect. You may well not get much of a comedown, though even if you do it shouldn't last that long. (just my experience)
 
Lev said:
I must confess I am surprised at the recent bought of negativity here. I personally cannot get enough!

There is *some* jaw tension, but I only notice it for half an hour or so, and then its gone, I dont even bother with chewing gum after that. Other muscle tension doesn't really happen, either.

I dont have any problems with a comedown from MDMA, but it does leave you feeling a bit "wierd", whatever your definition is, no one can deny that.. But with Methylone, when its done, I find I just slightly buzz continually for a few hours.. stretching / stairs / dancing feels great. And best of all, you can eat, have sex, think quickly, etc,...

I also find I grin my ass off during methylone, in fact I was thinking of starting a poster campaign, like a pre election political party style thing, "MDMA vs Methylone. Don't gurn, GRIN!" :)

I find it a little harder to sleep on than MDMA, but more often than not its because I am so elated that I dont want to 'let go' of the feeling, or I am just grinning profusely.

All this combined with a constant wonderful high, as well.

I guess different strokes for different blokes, and all that :)
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I also find the comedown gentle, but then that is also my opinion of MDMA. Perhaps it is simply that my standard for comparison is IV cocaine/meth, now there is a crash. I assume methylone can be injected, but I have resisted that temptation, I wouldn't want it (or X) to become simply another white powder I put in my arm.
 
i tried methylone recently.
230mg followed by 115mg 75min later and another 115mg another 75 min later.
4 hours after dropping the last dose i took 40mg of 2c-c (for no reason other than i really didnt want the high to end.)

Methylone reminded me alot of MDMA. I dont really have anything new to add to the thread though except that it mixes well with 2c-c to provide a very empathic 2c-c trip.
 
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I guess its better than starting a new one.
Anyways, I tried about 120mg of methylone on Saturday and I had a pretty glowing experience. After seeing my reaction to this chemical, my wife is now interested in trying it. I would like to take some with her as soon as possible, but I'm not sure if I should or not. Does methylone cause your serotonin to be drained? If I were to re-dose about 72 hours after initially dosing would I still experience the euphoric effects? If I were to dose 2 times in the same week am I risking depression problems or any other bad side effects?

I'm all about harm reduction and my instinct tells me this would be a bad idea, but I would like to hear what people have to say. With MDMA I like to wait at least a month between experiences to maximize the euphoria. Is methylone similar?
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Going by meth/amp vs meth/cat studies, it is probably serotonergically neurotoxic, somewhere slightly less so than MDMA (from both n-demethylation and oxidative reduction). It seems to generally require larger doses than MDMA, though...
 
Just adding my view on metylone.

I got 50g of it as a birthday present so i have hade som time to explor it.

In doses like 100-200 it makes me mor social and consentrated. No real efect outside that.

Doses over 200 like 500 and so on givs me an nice feeling inside and tinglish skin but NON of the efects of MDMA. Mybe the part where you upen up more isely to others witch i don't get on MDMA anny mor.

The hangover isent usuly so bad but if i go over 1g in one night i vill fel lite downside on my mood 2-3 days after.

I usuly dont get jav-clenshing and on hi doses mybe alitel eye-whiggel.

So my conclusion is that this is wonderfull in smal doses under social getogeter or if i wont to work. (Works with computers)
And i also prefer smaler doses sins the body load increases with hier.

But now days i try to avoyd it sinse it has become iligal.
 
Methylone is finicky. As I am sure I’ve mentioned elsewhere in this thread…my first three tries with methylone were a bust. But the forth time, I was camping in the desert with my sweetie…and in that setting…the magic came through and I experienced a profound MDMA-like entactogenic and entheogenic experience. I might even go so far to say that I like methylone better than MDMA. Naw, they are prolly even.
 
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Methylone is finicky. As I am sure I’ve mentioned elsewhere in this thread…my first three tries with methylone were a bust. But the forth time, I was camping in the desert with my sweetie…and in that setting…the magic came through and I experienced a profound MDMA-like entactogenic and entheogenic experience. I might even go so far to say that I like methylone better than MDMA. Naw, they are prolly even.
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Thats in somways what i tried to explain 100-200 and just sit on a blanket in the nature with a partner is great, and for me better then MDMA du to that on Metylone dosent have the strong intens efect. mor a subtil and deeper feeling.


morninggloryseed: Have tried the same almost. was camping in the forest with my x-girlfriend.
 
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