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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

A few comments on fluffiness: I have had the fluffy and not fluffy one. Well, we pressed some fluffy powder with some steel plates by hand and we got identical material to that non fluffy batch. My theory is, they are the same but the other is just more pressed (perhaps because shipped in smaller container or something, dunno). Anyways, I have more confidence the difference is behind set, setting and cannabis use. Still, many rare chemicals could use a few tests for these effects.
 
Damn. The batch I had looked like cotton stuffed into the jar. Dumped out, it was completely fuzzy and fibrous. I could crush and poke it all with a spoon and it would compress into white powder. Then, I could agitate it (in the jar), and it turns back into puff balls. Has anyone else encountered this?
 
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Yes, I agree with VB. Boosting does not seem to intensify the trip on 2c-e it just seems to extend it. Last night while dosing on 20mg and coming down after 6 hours of tripping, I decided to take a 5mg booster. I could deffinetly feel the booster in my body but it wasn't like I was tripping once again, more like smoking another pipe hit of weed when u are already pretty damn high, it doesn't make alot of difference. Now, if one were to try a booster of the range of 10-15 mg after a 15-20 mg trip, I wonder what the booster would do then.... Anyone ever try this?
 
I was gonna do 35 and then a 35 booster, but that'd be the last of mine, so I don't wanna waste it.

I should've just done 70. I came back from 40 during SSRI withdrawal no problem, so I wonder what 70 would've done to my diseased mind...
 
blase deviant, why did you have SSRI withdrawals, quitting an SSRI cold turkey is VERY dangerous. You're supposed to gradually lower the dosage over a couple weeks...
 
2ce gives me major stomach issues, as did it for the person I shared some with as well. Especially in doses exceeding 35mg, it seems to literally tear my insides out. I find 2ci to be a much less irritating chemical to my tummy.
 
First with 2C-I, and now people are doing humungous doses of 2C-E? What's the deal here. 20mg doesn't get you high enough? :p
 
^^ Yeah, I plan on doing 25mg too someday when I'm feeling brave. But people doing 35mg, and talking about doing 70mg? Come on.
 
Kinetic can you PM me about why cold turkey SSRI withdrawl is so bad....

Thats what my shrink suggested for me....
 
well I can't say that I know more than a psychiatrist, but I have heard from many of my own pyschiatrists and therapists (yes, I had quite a few) that it was a bad idea. I also know of one girl that quit cold turkey and ended up having a severe mental breakdown. but if that's what the doctor ordered...

if the dosage is on the lower side than quitting an SSRI cold turkey should be no biggie, but if it's too the point that you are actually having withdrawals then there may be a problem.
 
I just obtained some 2c-e, and am planning to take 18mg on tuesday during the day. I was wondering what activities would be fun to do on this compound.
 
I've sometimes enjoyed reading on medium doses of 2C-E, but I'm kind of a book dork. It's a little easier to concentrate with 2C-E than other psychedelics I've tried. You might enjoy movies or TV or other solitary amusements, and not just "trip friendly" movies either. I could easily follow something with a complex plot on 2C-E. It's not a very good social chem, though, and being outside can get a little overwhelming.

As I found, if you take enough, it quickly becomes it's own "entertainment", and trip activities become quite beside the point.
 
VictorBorge said:
^^ Yeah, I plan on doing 25mg too someday when I'm feeling brave. But people doing 35mg, and talking about doing 70mg? Come on.
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20mg of 2C-E took me to a place well beyond all previous oral psychedelics (barring one 500ug LSD trip.) I couldn't imagine taking more than 20mg. 16mg of 2C-E was similiar in potency to 250ug of LSD. 2C-E, more than any psychedelic out there, is making me thing some vendors are either cutting material or are selling (unknown to them) material not very pure. I've been tripping for almost 15 years. I've done all the biggies (DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, huge doses of LSD, etc) and am well experienced with trippign in general.

Not only do I see no point in taking more than 20mg of 2C-E, but I can't fathom how one can stand such a high dose. At 20mg, I actually had a white-out that was similar to a 5-MeO-DMT trip. What more could one want? I really think some of the 2C-E (especially the "fluffy" stuff as so many who have used it report needing higher dosages) out there is not good.

Or maybe it is just like 2C-T-7 and is erratic in its action. But I've shared it now with a number of people, and between 10mg and 16mg was all anyone ever needed to reach a full and complex plus-three trip. Who knows?
 
2C-E tested with GC/MS and found to be >98% pure is a gleeming white powder that can get slightly clumpy. This is the material that I found 16mg to be similar to 3 good hits of LSD, and 20mg to be out-of-body.

The "fluffy" stuff is ungodly fluffy (300mg looks over a gram) and has weird properties. It can not be squished down or crushed finer. It just fluffs right back up. I am working on having some "fluffy" 2C-E tested with GC/MS and see what is in it, and why it is so different than other batches of 2C-E.
 
morninggloryseed said:
The "fluffy" stuff is ungodly fluffy (300mg looks over a gram) and has weird properties. It can not be squished down or crushed finer. It just fluffs right back up. I am working on having some "fluffy" 2C-E tested with GC/MS and see what is in it, and why it is so different than other batches of 2C-E.
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I'm glad that somebody is doing that, it would be good to know if there is an actual difference between the two. I have the feeling that this probably accounts for some people's outrageously high doses.
 
I'll second these responses in that my magnificently fluffy 2CE also magnificently kicks my ass as 20mg and others' asses at less than this amount. A friend of mine found around 7mg of this stuff to be too much.

I had a lot of fun with this stuff when it arrived. After measuring its mass and placing it into the jar that I intended to use for storage in solution, I played with it for a while. I used a spoon to condense it all into a relatively dense white-powder. Then, I jiggled the jar and watched it fluff back to its original form.

I don't doubt the possibility of unusually weak batches, but I think it's just as like that these reports are due to individual variation, tolerance, poor measuring techniques, and other factors.

As an example, an acquaintance of mine obtained a separate batch of 2C-E. 13mg of said batch provided him with a strong experience. 15mg of this batch was among his most intense psychedelic experiences. At the same time, 30mg of this batch when given to his girl-friend produced "a mild trip". This same girl-friend of his reported a "stomach-ache" with no significant psychoactive effects from 50mg of another drug 2C-I. That 2C-I was from my own supply which worked just fine in the 15-20mg range for the rest of us. His girl-friend is either a hard-head, or has a serious psychological block.

Okay, point to be taken is that there most certainly is dramatic variation from person to person. I'm beginning to witness this with pretty much all psychedelics, though, phenethylamines are more notorious for it.
 
So I sampled 18mgs of 2C-E today, and it took a full 3 and 1/2 hours to kick in. Once it kicked it was awesome. But I was wonderin' if it took this long for anyone else.
 
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