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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

From what I've read, 2C-E sounds like more of a headfuck compared to some of the other 2Cs, but shulgins report on it says its one of his 'magical half dozen'. Small doses resulting in +++ experiences sounds all good, but Im not in the mood for a spiritual breakthrough every time I trip. A supplier sells both 2C-C and 2C-E, but Im in search of something a little more colorful in the visual sense and something to enhance sounds. Any thoughts on this? 2C-C definitely poses as a more recreational psychadelic, but even recreation can be enlightening.
 
My bird Sativa is a Bitch

>ok, i had 25mg (orally) of 2ce the other day (not writing a >report cuz i'm a shitty writer :| ).
>the experience was great, but my stomach was in knots for
>most of the trip, especially towards the end. here i am, a few
>days later, and i think i'm showing some signs of acute damage
>(liver i think)

I think you just took too much my friend, and are using too much of it in too short a period of time. I can't say if it's toxic or not because I don't know, but if it were toxic at 25 mg then it probably would be at so 15 mg too, and I didn't feel anything bad at any dose. Your body was probably just telling you STOP.

I'm no light weight, but I got to say 25 mg of 2C-E sounds just way too high. Most phenethylamines don't seem alright to take at heroic dosages like LSD where you can take all you want and be fine. 2C-B may be an exception since I've heard of a second-hand story of a dummy who dosed a half-gram.

As for sheer potency, I was going out of my body with just 18 mg of 2C-E. I can't see taking more than 20 mg. I don't see what could be gained from anything higher! With 18 mg, I was everything and everything was happening! It so hard to explain. So much happens with 2C-E at any dose it seems! I was also blown far away with just 16 mg on my first experiment, but neve rout of my body. I'd imagine a good recreational/museum dosage is at or around 10 to 12 mg, so 25 mg just seem to be overkill. Just my 2 cents.

>but Im in search of something a little more colorful in the
>visual sense and something to enhance sounds. Any thoughts
>on this? 2C-C definitely poses as a more recreational
>psychadelic, but even recreation can be enlightening.

I don't yet know for myself (as I have not yet sampled 2C-C), but I highly doubt 2C-C is more visual or colorful than 2C-E. 2C-E was WAY more colorful and visual (to me) than infamous 2C-B! And a few others have agreed with me on that statement.

But you are correct in saying that 2C-C is going to be much more recreational in nature. If you are not looking for something deep and serious, definitely avoid the 2C-E. It doesn't mess around.

2C-C sounds pretty nice and benign to me. It's just a shame the potency is real low. Unless you make it yourself, a real heavy dosage for most people (50 to 60 mg) is gonna be rather pricey. It seems only half as potent as 2C-B. But oh well.

I am going to try it soon at 40 mg. Just gonna take it and go for a long walk into the highlands by myself. I tend to get the most out of a psychedelic when I'm in nature. Especially if I am alone and don't have to worry about others. From all reports, it sounds like 2C-B in that it doesn't go too deep unless you push it in that direction. That's what I will want since I'll be on a fairly high dose alone and it will be my first time.
 
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I guess now my only question is which one (2CC or 2CE) is going to have less drawbacks. Most PEAs do tend to have some common side-effects (severe body load, vomiting, GI upset, etc.) Can anyone extrapolate on the extent of side-effects regarding the 2C-X series of PEA analogs? I dont want to be shitting myself and vomiting while trying to achieve chemical enlightenment. The only PEA ive actually had experience with was 2C-T-7. I really enjoyed it at lower doses, but the stronger trips definitely left more room for negative effects (mainly the body load/twitching). Is the extent of side-effects dose dependent like most chemicals, or is there any particular exception for this class of drugs i should know about?
 
I'm leaning more toward 2CC than anything enenthough I can't find but a few entries about it. I definetly like the idea of trying something that doesn't have a huge body load and won't send me flying away. I like psychadelics but I don't like egoloss so I try to keep them to a manageable amount. I'm thinking a common 20mg dose of 2CC will be a good one to start at.

As far as your Question Dan, I feel pretty confortable saying that you will have atleast a few GI side effects from whatever PEA you use. I would simply take the fasting precaution and hope for the best. Almost always when I experiment with RC's I have terrible cramps when I eat within 4-6 hours before takeoff.
 
as for more recent info, I think that MorningGlorySeeds did say something baout 2C-E being his favorite psychedelic... and it being NOTHING to toy with... but I bet he'd love to get more in depth than that....

needless to say, my friend had a very intense and (so he thought) life threatening trip on 24mg of 2C-E
 
murple i do not understand your logic, and it definitely sounds like you haven't had any 1st hand experience with 2ce. it is quite powerful and easily rivals high dose LSD trips.
 
While I am not generally impressed by 2C- drugs, I do have to admit that statements such as the following have left me at least somewhat interested in 2C-E:
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"In my thirty-five years of experimenting with old and new psychoactive compounds, one stands out in my mind above all the others. It may be because of my particular temperament and value system. It may be because I like to find favorites and invest myself in them, whereby they take on the holy glow of my special consideration.
"Whatever the reason, I try very hard to be objective, and information on the efficacy of this particular substance has come in from many directions. Most all of the input confirms my belief in its special efficacy. My view that it focuses on our difficulties is not particularly confirmed, though most agree with the oustanding results.
"The substance is 2C-E, code name for 2,5-dimethoxy-4-ethylphenethylamine."
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(Stolaroff, Thanatos to Eros, p. 81)
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Namaste,
Cliff
 
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I have only taken 2C-E once & I generally like to take things a few times before forming too many opinions about a drug since one can then get a better idea of the range of effects but that said 2C-E was totally outstanding - very deep & complex action I have to say I didn't find this trip to be 'dark' although it certainly had a very very serious edge. Certainly I think it could be dark & very challenging - It certainly effected me quite profoundly. I haven't ever tried mescaline & am not even under the dellusion that I have after being sold acid. but this is the most intriging PEA I have come across (have tried 2ct-2/4/7,2c-b/c/i,tma2,dob(only a small dose admittedly) & mdma/mda) it's probably not for everyone & If you are after 'fun' as such there maybe better options
 
I finally sample about 10 mg of 2c-e this evening. I've always loved 2c-i, but 2c-e definitely takes it deeper into the mental aspects of self examination, visuals, and emotion elation. It is definitely more complex.

I'm looking forward to trying 15mg this weekend in the mountains.
 
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to trying 15mg this weekend in the mountains.
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The mountains are the best place for such experiences. My last 2C-E experience was in the mountains and it was one of the most mystical experiences of my life.
 
I've taken it twice (1@12mg 1@16mg) and both times I felt a mild headache coming on as the trip was ending, both times I took a couple aspirin and wasn't bothered again.
 
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Well, I must say that 2c-e is purhaps the most spended entheogenic that I have yet to encounter.

I did spend Saturday with a good friend, 2c-e, and a lot of moose. I'm going to need a little time to properly put into words a true description that would represent the enormity of what I experienced yesterday.
 
^^ apparently 2C-E is much better for chromatography purposes!

Yeah, I found 2C-E to be intensely visual and a true hallucinagen (unless there really are a family of ents living in my backyard), but it sounds like 2C-I is very visual itself.

So, your mission (if you choose to accept it) is to take both and report back to the group :)

See, it's not drug abuse, it's a homework assignment, that makes it all right... :)
 
I don't think injecting 2c-e in any manner, IV or otherwise would be an overall smart idea for me to try... if you feel like it's for you, go right the hell on and do that... tell me how it goes ;)

then I might try it :)
 
I think that people that try to inject powerful things like 2C-E are either stupid, suicidal, or both. This is one potent PEA. There is no need to take it by any other route of administration but orally.
 
I've done 2C-E once and I will definitely do it again. I've also done 2C-I several times (around 6-7).

Here are some of the differences I've noted:

The body load with 2C-E is different. Some would say that it is dirtier than 2C-I, but I found it to be more manageable.

2C-E is 'trippier'. The visuals, for me, are much more apparent and vivid.

The closed-eye visuals are MUCH BETTER with 2C-E.

I have found 2C-E to be cloudier. That is, more confusion (but not in a bad way) and lots of random laughing.

It is easier to hide being on 2C-I, if necessary. I couldn't imagine functioning around non-trippers while on 2C-E.

I won't say for sure which I like better until I do 2C-E a few more times. As I said, I've only done it once thus far.
 
Thanks for the differential report. It definitely sounds like a worthwhile compound.


what has been your dosage range (mg) for 2c-i?
How much 2c-e was ingested?

I keep reading references to a "dirtier" feeling, but cannot find an explanation or definition. Can someone please tell me what a "ditry" feeling is?
 
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