How safe/good an idea would taking tramdol after 1) mushrooms 2) MDMA. I was thinking that it might bring you back up a bit, particularly with MDMA. But could this potentialy leed to seraton sybdrome?
How safe/good an idea would taking tramdol after 1) mushrooms 2) MDMA. I was thinking that it might bring you back up a bit, particularly with MDMA. But could this potentialy leed to seraton sybdrome?
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I have been a long time user of tramadol and have been using it on a daily basis for about 3 years with 250 mg spaced out throughout a typical day. It was prescribed to me for my herniated disc so I have a constant supply of it. I belong to the "tramadol is awesome" group. I have experimented it with dexies, mdma, alcohol, weed, dxm, modafinil and orphenadrine.This post will be a long one and I will try to explain both the negatives and positives of this atypical opiate.
The Positives
Firstly, to answer rpm's enquiry, besides other ssri's , tramadol is the best comedown drug for MDMA I know off. Firstly like an ssri (or snri) , it cuts off the effects of mdma with the added benefit of the opiate effects which allows you to sleep. However if you have been on trams prior to wanting to roll, you WONT roll. So for me I have to plan when I expect to be rolling. i have to taper of it b4 dropping. The tapering process for me takes about 3 weeks. 2 weeks of actual tapering and 1 week of abstinence.Also after a roll session do not expect to get high of trams for at least a week after a roll but at the same time if u continue using it anyways , you wont experience terrible tuesdays.
When i first started using it for my back, I took just 50mg together with orphenadrine and paracetamol. It was awesome. I was high off my face and lovey dovey with everyone while at the same time i could 'concentrate'on work (a casual job at the checkout)if i needed to. However the moment I needed to do any work which required me to think ( math and etc) the high went away. Also if I took it with caffeine or more than 2 beers the high went away. However the orphenadrine made me really sleepy and I would fall asleep usually just 5 hrs after ingestion.
Then when I started uni, I started taking 150 mgs without orphendrine the high was similar but lasted for about 7-8hrs. WHen it came to exam season, i found another use for it. If I took 150mg with at least 200mg of caffeine, I was able to concentrate a whole lot better but of course i did not get high.
Tolerance to the intial intensity which i would decribe as close to 70% of a roll, develops very quickly with me having to take an extra 50mg every subsequent day.At the same time, if i stopped taking it , the tolerance dissapears just as fast.
The mood regulating effects of trams are awesome. When hanging with my gf , the feelings of love, companship etc is heightened.
Combinations:
Weed:I found that smoking weed greatly enhanced the high . I was literally rolling with squiggly eyes and with and added awesome body buzz. (although the lethargy weed induces meant that all I wanted to do was sit down and bop my head to trance). The timing of when to smoke is crucial for this experience. Only smoke up at the peak of tramadol's effects.
Dexies: I do not get high but I am able to focus for hours on any task im doing with just 10 mgs of dex and 100mgs of trams. Again timing it is crucial. I take 5mgs dex first, 1/2 hour later the other 5. THen an hour after that I would the 100mg of trams. However if i took the trams first then the dexies i would get a wierd brain block feeling and it would take me twice as long to get any assignment/studying done.
The negatives
If my gf start to pick a fight with me, or any other usually minor anoyances when im at the peak its effects, i get really angry.Out of control angry.However this only lasts for a month after initial use.
When combining it with dxm (even with a very low dose of dxm and just 100mg of tram), I came close to experience seretonin syndrome. My digestive system became overactive (i would fart my guts out), the high would be too intense and my heart rate skyrockets.
When combining it with modafinil, i go to the withdrawal stage very quicly, like just 5hrs after ingestion.
Also withdrawals from going cold turkey is hell. The withdrawal symptoms associated with the opiate part is mild with just diarehhea and mild cold sweat.
However the mental effects are terrible. All i wanted to do was to lay in bed and i would lose interest in everything , even sex. I would even start to think of suicide.
Sex on tramadol is a mixed bag. I would start off being more turned on or horny than normal and i can last for hours. However contrary to popular knowledge, girls DO NOT like long sex sessions, their pussies get sore(in case you were wondering, i am avg sized not pornstar big). 45 mins is pushing it and 30 mins (all excluding foreplay) is the sweet spot . Also if i try a new high intensity position or bang like a jackhammer i would just get soft mid-way and end up frustrated and unsatisfied.
However when I come(if i come) , its awesome. Weed greatly enhances the chances of me coming though and definately enhances the orgasm.