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The Official Tramadol Discussion Thread

I have used tramadol for almost 4-5 years. At my worst I was taking close to 30 50mgs a day, thats about 1500mgs a day, sometimes id take more. It would take me 15-20 pills just to feel the high after a while. Ive had 7 knee surgeries so it was needed for me at first then I took them just to get high. When I was first prescribed them it would take 4 pills to feel the good high and it lasted all day. I could take it at like 12 and feel it still till like 10pm. But let me tell you it is a bitch of a drug to get off of. I knew I had a problem and had to get off the crap. The withdrawls are terrible, all you want to do is sit in corner and cry and you feel like your gonna jump outta your skin and cant stand to be touched. I tried the suboxone to get off but after you ween your self off its like well shit i still feel like I liked my life better on the drugs. Ive been to quite a few psychciatrists and counselors, done the NA thing, but nothing was working I just still had this drive to want to take them. Ive finally found a psych who tested me for a variety if mental and emotional issues to get to the root of the problem and prescribe the right things and program, and for the first time in years I dont feel that drive to have to take them and that my life is better with them. Seriously if your looking to get off the stuff find a good psych (ive been throu 4 and have finally found one I can connect with and seems to have a clue) and its made a world of a difference. I thought drugs were just gonna control my life forever, now im starting to see that they wont and I'm a different person now
 
Hemuli said:
Anyone have any idea is it dangerous to take Trams on small Zopiclone wd? Is the seizure risk bigger?
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I don't know about that, and especially with the "small" qualifier. Unlike benzodiazepines, the "Z Drugs" aren't really anti-convulsant. Just take 50mg every hour...titrate up is the best way with tram. That way, you minimize potential negative effects of the tramadol, and maximize the longer lasting metabolic effects (which are also anticonvulasant)! So a product of tramadol metabolism helps protect against tramadol induced convulsion.
 
tyler5 said:
i mean, ive used for 4 weeks 50mg - 600mg a day, and i would like to get off it.

how do i taper?
and with help of codeine? :p
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Fortunately, tramadol allows a relatively easy taper. I was able to reduce dose by 25-50mg's every 1-2weeks. Withdrawal symptoms were pretty much non-existant with the help of some other substances. Combination of L-tryptophan with DL-phenylalanine were very helpful overall, and helped to restore my neurochemistry to it's original state. Other than that I take a multivitamin/mineral daily, and had a little kratom whenever I needed a boost. 5-HTP also works well, but I don't recommend taking it more than once every 3 days.
 
When i first took tramadol i was loving it, now it doesn't do much of anything even though i'm not big on opiates... (Did like morphine though, when the doc gave it to me.) :)

Now i just take it once and awhile to ease some shoulder pain, that's all.
 
Opiated6534 said:
the only thing ive ever found tramadol useful for is comming off opiates
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Ya thats the only thing i use it for too. It helps withdrawals some but not as much as codeine. It does work better then demerol at withdrawals though oddly enough.

So ya i always have some laying around atleast in case i run short of morphine.
 
is there anyway to get back tramadol tolerance? would a months break be sufficient, i have only used maybe 15 times, but alll in the last year at about 750mg doses?
 
rpm said:
How safe/good an idea would taking tramdol after 1) mushrooms 2) MDMA. I was thinking that it might bring you back up a bit, particularly with MDMA. But could this potentialy leed to seraton sybdrome?
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rpm said:
How safe/good an idea would taking tramdol after 1) mushrooms 2) MDMA. I was thinking that it might bring you back up a bit, particularly with MDMA. But could this potentialy leed to seraton sybdrome?
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I have been a long time user of tramadol and have been using it on a daily basis for about 3 years with 250 mg spaced out throughout a typical day. It was prescribed to me for my herniated disc so I have a constant supply of it. I belong to the "tramadol is awesome" group. I have experimented it with dexies, mdma, alcohol, weed, dxm, modafinil and orphenadrine.This post will be a long one and I will try to explain both the negatives and positives of this atypical opiate.

The Positives

Firstly, to answer rpm's enquiry, besides other ssri's , tramadol is the best comedown drug for MDMA I know off. Firstly like an ssri (or snri) , it cuts off the effects of mdma with the added benefit of the opiate effects which allows you to sleep. However if you have been on trams prior to wanting to roll, you WONT roll. So for me I have to plan when I expect to be rolling. i have to taper of it b4 dropping. The tapering process for me takes about 3 weeks. 2 weeks of actual tapering and 1 week of abstinence.Also after a roll session do not expect to get high of trams for at least a week after a roll but at the same time if u continue using it anyways , you wont experience terrible tuesdays.

When i first started using it for my back, I took just 50mg together with orphenadrine and paracetamol. It was awesome. I was high off my face and lovey dovey with everyone while at the same time i could 'concentrate'on work (a casual job at the checkout)if i needed to. However the moment I needed to do any work which required me to think ( math and etc) the high went away. Also if I took it with caffeine or more than 2 beers the high went away. However the orphenadrine made me really sleepy and I would fall asleep usually just 5 hrs after ingestion.

Then when I started uni, I started taking 150 mgs without orphendrine the high was similar but lasted for about 7-8hrs. WHen it came to exam season, i found another use for it. If I took 150mg with at least 200mg of caffeine, I was able to concentrate a whole lot better but of course i did not get high.

Tolerance to the intial intensity which i would decribe as close to 70% of a roll, develops very quickly with me having to take an extra 50mg every subsequent day.At the same time, if i stopped taking it , the tolerance dissapears just as fast.

The mood regulating effects of trams are awesome. When hanging with my gf , the feelings of love, companship etc is heightened.



Combinations:

Weed:I found that smoking weed greatly enhanced the high . I was literally rolling with squiggly eyes and with and added awesome body buzz. (although the lethargy weed induces meant that all I wanted to do was sit down and bop my head to trance). The timing of when to smoke is crucial for this experience. Only smoke up at the peak of tramadol's effects.

Dexies: I do not get high but I am able to focus for hours on any task im doing with just 10 mgs of dex and 100mgs of trams. Again timing it is crucial. I take 5mgs dex first, 1/2 hour later the other 5. THen an hour after that I would the 100mg of trams. However if i took the trams first then the dexies i would get a wierd brain block feeling and it would take me twice as long to get any assignment/studying done.

The negatives

If my gf start to pick a fight with me, or any other usually minor anoyances when im at the peak its effects, i get really angry.Out of control angry.However this only lasts for a month after initial use.

When combining it with dxm (even with a very low dose of dxm and just 100mg of tram), I came close to experience seretonin syndrome. My digestive system became overactive (i would fart my guts out), the high would be too intense and my heart rate skyrockets.

When combining it with modafinil, i go to the withdrawal stage very quicly, like just 5hrs after ingestion.

Also withdrawals from going cold turkey is hell. The withdrawal symptoms associated with the opiate part is mild with just diarehhea and mild cold sweat.
However the mental effects are terrible. All i wanted to do was to lay in bed and i would lose interest in everything , even sex. I would even start to think of suicide.

Sex on tramadol is a mixed bag. I would start off being more turned on or horny than normal and i can last for hours. However contrary to popular knowledge, girls DO NOT like long sex sessions, their pussies get sore(in case you were wondering, i am avg sized not pornstar big). 45 mins is pushing it and 30 mins (all excluding foreplay) is the sweet spot . Also if i try a new high intensity position or bang like a jackhammer i would just get soft mid-way and end up frustrated and unsatisfied.
However when I come(if i come) , its awesome. Weed greatly enhances the chances of me coming though and definately enhances the orgasm.
 
After taking tramadol a few times recently I'm never touching it again.

It's given me those 'brain blips' you'd get from abusing MDMA. (Albeit not quite as severe) but still not very pleasant.
Should of done my research before taking this stuff. :|
 
Great linky, 'Cyde. Very useful info - thanks :)

I started treatment with tramadol recently and am finding it surprisingly effective for both its antidepressant and analgesic (in conjunction with codeine - they potentiate the shit out of each other for me) properties. I also found out the hard way that it has some very odd and worrying interactions after a bout of pretty severe Serotonin Syndrome when I took LSD on top of it - that was a whole heap o' no fun at all :|
 
Oh yes :|

But to balance it out I completely lost control of my bladder (and mind :\) during my run-in with SS. Must have pissed out half my own bodyweight that night. Mostly over myself and the floor. Tramadol has some vicious interactions so that list will come in handy. Had no idea caffeine could reduce its effectiveness so will try to lay off the coffee. For some reason I've been craving it since starting the tram even though I'm not usually much of a caffeine drinker :?
 
You know thats weird becuase I never drink pop UNLESS Im swallowing a handful of trams. And after that I drink RC Cola alot for some reason. But catch me any other time and I gots me a juice
 
"[tramal + ]Dextromethorphan Increased risk of serotonin syndrome. Monitor for symptoms of serotonin syndrome."

Tonight I found some tramal at home, so I'll eat it ;)
As I remember, I often took it with small amounts of DXM (like 15-30mg) and nothing bad happend (I've heard that DXM makes trip warmer and prevents fast rise of tolerance).

So can sth bad happen to me?
Like tonight, when I'm going to take 300mg of tramadol, 15mg of DXM and 50mg of Dimenhydrinate (Dramamine).

pzdr
 
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