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the official 'pets and drugs' thread

Blowing smoke in your pets general direction is okay, in my opinion. If your a foot or more away from them, they can definitely choose weather to stay in the line of smoke (or get closer), or to go away. Giving your animal pills or any other drugs other than pot (or catnip for cats) is idiotic and cruel, as I'm sure any of you out there with an IQ and a conscious agree. While animals might not be able to weigh the pro's and con's of drug use, you can. I am just geussing here, but I imagine pot can't be too much worse for animals then humans. If your improving your animals quality of life by a large degree at the expense of a possibility of a _slightly_ shorter life span, it may be worth it. There are a lot worse things you could do for an animal. Many many people overfeed their pets, and think it's 'cute' when they become severely obese. How can you honestly think that overfeeding an animal is somehow better/safer then occasionaly letting it inhale some pot smoke? On the other hand, second hand pot smoke isn't such a great idea, because it is filled with carbon dioxide instead of oxygen. Putting your animal in an inclosed space with tons of second hand smoke is literally suffocating it. You might as well ring it's neck. Please people, treat your pets with the respect and care that they deserve.
 
zx13xz said:
Give your cat some good catnip. Not the cheap pet store crap, but the really good kind they sell at health food stores. Cats really love it and it is actually good for their digestive systems. Much better way to get your cat "high".

dude. i don't have a cat. i have a dog. and he doesn't like catnip. he likes this other plant called marijuana. just because catnip doesn't get people high, and has "cat" in its name doesn't mean that only catnip was meant for cats. there's also no reason to believe that marijuana is only for humans.

a lot of posters to this thread keep making reference to worst-case scenarios. like we're all junkies shooting our pets up with H or something. personally, i don't see marijuana as a very harmful drug. It's not like giving "poison" to your pets at all. i see the same rhetoric used here that is frighteningly reminiscent of american drug war rhetoric.
 
once i think my dog got high on coke. we were blowing lines in my basement. we were quite high and just giverin' and we split a little on the floor... well my dog comes downstairs and starts sniffing around. she was just going crazy sniffing all over the floor. then i was like ahh shit wtf thats where we dropped the coke. then my dog was like going crazy chasing her tail and shit and just being a fucking goof.

ya i felt supppper bad.
 
^ Aww thats awful! But yeah it was an accident. Keep your cocaine as far away from your dog as possible...

I've gotten my cat stoned before, a long time ago. I don't think she liked it... So I haven't done it since.

I wouldn't force it on an animal, but if they like it and want to be around it (marijuana), well blow em' a little smoke...
 
Is that you in your avatar?

beanpoophead said:
once i think my dog got high on coke. ya i felt supppper bad.

How come your supper went bad after your dog snorted some coke?
Should've kept it in the fridge...8) :\
 
Actually, I have a question also.

Everytime after smoking a joint, my cat will come up to me and start licking my hand that I was using the smoke the J with. She specifically licks my pointer and my thumb.. the 2 fingers I hold a joint with. Is this because she likes the way it smells? Does she get high off it?

Anyone have any opinions?
 
Damn, you're a regular little cutie-pie. Of course, I'm old enough to be your, uh, your, hmm...older brother!! Yeah, that's it, older brother. I'll bet you're married or close enough, right?
 
I was thinking about this recently so I dug up this old thread. :)

Under what circumstances is it OK to give your pets drugs?

I'd never give my kitty drugs. I think it's cruel. The closest my cat has come to getting drugs is when he sits and gets a contact high when I smoke, and one time when he ate part of a bud. (I had to get a nug jar to keep him out ;))

It is my position that no responsible pet owner or drug user administers drugs to an animal unless strictly necessary for that animal's health or well-being.

Discuss.
 
why i think it's ok to "allow" your pet dog/cat/ferret to get stoned:

personally, i think marijuana should be legalized. the reason i think this, is because from what information that i've gathered i believe that consuming marijuana doesn't pose any major health risks if done in moderation. secondly, i also think that what an individual does with his/her own body is his/her own business, and that individuals have the right to self-medicate themselves, and to partake in recreational drug use as long as they act responsibly. i also don't believe that there is anything wrong with being in an altered state of mind that deviates from the baseline experience accepted by society.

that said, if you apply the same logic to animals, what gives us the right to deny animals the same pleasures that humans partake in? if you smoke pot because you have accessed the risk for yourself, and you don't see it as significantly detrimental to your health, allowing your pet to recieve a contact high from pot smoke shouldn't be of much concern either.

i'm not saying people should throw their pets into a pillow case and blow smoke into it. and i'm not saying that all pets enjoy getting high, but if your pet appears to be attracted to marijuana smoke, then just let it be. i see so many people applying the same erroneous rhetoric that drug-prohibitionists use. it's the same groundless moral indignation, except it's even worse because of the hypocrisy involved.

if you smoke pot, and think pot should be legal, why the fuck are you making such a big deal out of animals getting stoned? i mean, if pot is that horrible, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU CONSUMING IT right? cat's aren't stupid, they have survival instincts just like humans do. if they enjoy a certain sensation, and aren't physically harmed from it, then they will want to try to re-experience that sensation. if they get stoned, get paranoid and freak out, they'll probably stay away from the scent of marijuana in the future. either way they're not at risk of any kind of serious bodily harm.

lastly, i think the biggest negative side-effect of pot is that it causes people to be too passive, and overly-content. people start losing motivation and start neglecting other areas of their life. cats & dogs and most house-hold pets on the other hand, do not have this problem. ALL THEY DO IS EAT, SLEEP, AND SHIT ALL DAY. they don't have social commitments to keep up with, they don't have occupational responsibilities. their grades aren't gonna drop. they're not going to lose their job. they won't get into trouble with the law.

pot is a social drug, if some pot heads enjoy getting stoned with their pets, so be it. it'll probably just build a stronger emotional bond between the pet and the owner. one that is less authoritative or characterized by dominance and submissiveness, and more mutually appreciative.

well, that's my spiel. and now i have to give my pet iguana his nightly heroin injection...
 
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Sniffles likes drugs.
 
Last summer my mate had a party at his house. Me and my mate decided to try and hot box the kitchen with smoke de la 3 litre bucket.

It must have worked because his cat, which we promptly forgot about, sat and stare at the wall un-responsively for the next 3 hours.
 
Originally posted by Tranced
It must have worked because his cat, which we promptly forgot about, sat and stare at the wall un-responsively for the next 3 hours.


must have worked?

i've seen cats who have never been exposed to pot do that...

:)

alasdair
 
Originally posted by thursday
...what gives us the right to deny animals the same pleasures that humans partake in? if you smoke pot because you have accessed the risk for yourself, and you don't see it as significantly detrimental to your health


you've answered your own question surely?

you should not give your pets drugs because they are unable to give informed consent and they are unable to assess the risk for themselves and decide if it's detrimental to their health.

8)

alasdair
 
pets aren't able to assess what risks any food/medication you give them poses to their health either. so are you not allowed to feed your pets then? if it's ok to de-claw cats, and spay/neuter pets, why is it so wrong to let your pets get stoned?

just because they aren't able to read about marijuana on the internet and understand the effects of marijuana as completely as humans can doesn't mean it's "wrong" to allow animals to get stoned. it doesn't make the drug any more physically harmful to them. there's still a gap of logic in that argument.
 
Originally posted by thursday
pets aren't able to assess what risks any food/medication you give them poses to their health either. so are you not allowed to feed your pets then? if it's ok to de-claw cats, and spay/neuter pets, why is it so wrong to let your pets get stoned?

just because they aren't able to read about marijuana on the internet and understand the effects of marijuana as completely as humans can doesn't mean it's "wrong" to allow animals to get stoned. it doesn't make the drug any more physically harmful to them. there's still a gap of logic in that argument.


animals choose to eat. they consent.

many people, in this thread and others, force their pets to get high because they tell themselves that the animals enjoy it. the animal may not consent.

often, i find, they're more concerned with laughing at the animal for their own enjoyment and have no real concern for the pet's well-being (although they tell themselves they do...)

when you get a pet high are you really doing it for your pet? i get the impression some people just can not or will not answer that question truthfully.

all my opinion.

alasdair
 
thursday said:
why i think it's ok to "allow" your pet dog/cat/ferret to get stoned

and some animals DO choose to get high as people have written before. animals aren't stupid, they can recognize that marijuana smoke makes them feel a certain way, and if they repeatedly come near you when you are smoking, they are probably trying to get a contact high. and in those cases, i don't see anything wrong with blowing a little smoke in their direction. some cats & dogs like to get stoned, just like some people do.
 
^ that's one conclusion. another is that they want attention because their stoner master is ignoring them...

i recall a thread on this subject a while ago from a dog owner who said her dog loved to get stoned and then barked all night because it was so happy. it didn't even cross her mind that the dog just might have been experiencing a living hell. there's no way of knowing.

please don't give animals drugs.

alasdair
 
my dog goes after weed like its a treat. she goes insane if you are holding a dub or dime bag in your hand, she goes nuts over it. She ate a whole ounce one time that was left over from when we made brownies...lol that fucked her up. and whenever she's with us in our smoking room, she follows the bong around waiting to get a hit, until she passes out of course
 
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