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the official 2011-12 college football thread! part 1 ver. WHERE IS SMOTPOKER??

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hey man, I'm glad all is well in Germany and I've always been impressed with how seriously you take your studies. if only...

anyways, Oklahoma did have a good year, a far better year than I expected them to

an tOSU VS Okla NC Game would be probably what's going to happen next year, although I would like to see an SEC team (first time I've ever said that one, lol)
 
Anyone else watching the Senior Bowl? ....The South Squad has the best NFL Talent?

LOL I could throw better than Christian Ponder, if people think Locker wont be a first rounder, go watch this game, Ponder wont be a 7th rounder in comparision

And to think i was hyping him up as a 2nd rounder before this game

EDIT- He improved vastly as the game went on , and looked halfway decent, I dunno if I could take Ponder in the first rd, but he might be worth looking at after that. The seniors all look like weak QB's, and questions over Gabbert and Kim Newton and Mallet means this might be shapig up to be a weak class.Shame Luck didnt come out.

Any team that want a QB would be better off dropping a first to trade for Kolb, as Vick is gonna be franchised.
 
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Now, I’m sure a lot of people are reading this and thinking that I’m just a sour Big Ten guy who is annoyed that the SEC is so good at football. And in all honesty, I’m no fan of the SEC.

I'm glad that qualifier made it in there, as its pretty unbearable to watch this guy piss and moan.

While we all know that the coaching staff is at least partly to blame for UGA’s struggles the last two seasons, could it also be because the rest of the league has significantly more depth to work with due to their unprincipled roster manipulations?

Anybody who actually followed SEC football this past year knows UGA's problems weren't due to comparative lack of depth. Its always nice to read about your team, even under these circumstances, but I think he's grasping at straws.

When players are cut to make space, it isn’t amateur athletics anymore -- its pro sports. While I’ve repeatedly complained about the NCAA’s stodgy position on everything from jersey sales to maintaining "amateur" status, this is one rule that makes iron-clad sense.
Its stupid to think that college football is an "amateur sport". As I've said before, I have no problem with oversigning and revoking scholarships provided its done out in the open, which it is. If I was a signee at, say, Ole Miss, it would be at the fore of my mind-- knowing who else is in the recruiting class, knowing what my likely options are in the event that I'm cut, knowing who else is more desirable than me, knowing how many people coach had signed. You don't end up "out on the street" when you lose your football scholarship, either.

As for Richt and his behavior, I honestly don't care either way. If a program like Florida can win 2 of the last 5 coach's trophies without oversigning, then its not quite the advantage your hatchetman makes it out to be.
 
hello losers and faggots.

today is a big day.

tennessee is killing it. just picked up a 5 star and we've signed 12 four stars.

BOOYA!
 
and, as usual, UGA's is better ;)

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I'm glad we're keeping this thread going... run it all the way to September!
 
ya'll got nothin. the next QB tOSU is going to sign might make TP actually look slow

and he might have to prove it early, due to the draconian NCAA suspensions
 
of the top 15 players (minus #1 & #3 cuz they ain't anywhere) from ESPN's 150, the SEC snagged numbers: 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, and 13.

i think next year SEC will do alright

lol @ tOSU recruit getting arrested in Cleveland for molesting girls
 
Three years ago Miami, Texas, Florida, Clemson, and Notre Dame all had top classes (where they ranked would all depend on who you asked, but all were in the top 5 everywhere). How much success have these programs had with those players?

On the other hand, look at Oregon and Auburn. Both programs had shit recruiting rankings before this season.

The whole process is so meaningless and unpredictable that it is hardly tolerable for me to follow anymore. I liked the Miami Northwestern story from 2008, but of the 8 or 9 "sure things" Miami took from that school, only Sean Spence and Brandon Washington have been any good.
 
Oh, hey 3,4! Glad you could join us.

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Shitty timing by myself, I suppose?

But seriously, look at my comments from last year or so, I was disillusioned with following the entire recruiting process when Miami still had a top 10 class, was coming off a 9-3 season, and the future with Randy Shannon looked oh-so-bright.

I promise you I am not being at all bitter with this post. I don't even think Miami's class was that awful, considering the circumstances.


Anyways, since you guys know I have an opinion on everything, I have to touch on the over signing issue. Nothing is wrong with it. As long as you make sure the kids you move out of your school land on their feet (Memphis takes all of the Miami rejects), then there is no issue. Student Athletes are not offered a 4 year scholarship. The scholarship has to be renewed every year. Therefore, it is well within a schools rights to send a player packing in order to make space for a better player.

This does not always work out so well for the school. Miami made some extra space for a big time prospect last recruiting season (Seantrel Henderson) by giving the boot to Thearon Collier, who was one of the teams most sure handed wide receivers. While Seantrel is undoubtedly better than Collier, it was still a regrettable move because with the loss of tight end Jimmy Graham to the NFL, Miami only had one sure-handed receiver left in Leonard Hankerson.

And the article was laughable. I don't even think that guy understands what over signing is. You round off your 25 kids over a two or 3 year period, so having a 33 athlete class is nothing spectacularly immoral. And you all know how much I hate LSU for their cheating ways. So for me to defend them for something, they have to be fucking right.

I'm pretty sure Ohio State has their own ways of doing it as well. There is no way to win in college football by being 100% ethical. There should be some rules that are heavily enforced, such as paying players to go to one's school. And there should be some things that are watched, or at least more reported by the mainstream media, such as these extremes of dishonesty that some coaches use when trying to sway a player to their particular school (the reason I hated Meyer so much was because of his underhanded tactics with this. The dude was such a fucking prick).

Anyways, I had didn't have shit to do today so I watched a little ESPNU. It was funny to see Randy Shannon and Urban Meyer both sitting next to each other.
 
when it comes to sports on the college or professional level I now throw ethics out the window. so many teams are doing so many wrong things, so many players are absolute ass-hats, that it's just foolish to judge them anymore

but an absolute will always be if your team has great high school prospects, they will have a great state-ran program. see: Ohio, Texas, Florida, etc

however, some schools have some pretty good HS talent, like Georgia - but they can get swept away by offers from nearer more successful schools like Florida

I don't take much into account the national rankings for recruiting... unless the player is SUPER hyped (like Terrelle Pryor, Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, etc)

a lot changes physically and mentally from a young man going to HS to college, as I'm sure ya'll know
 
Axl, you are cool with oversigning? Really? Man I thought of all people you would have an issue with that! I think you're caving in to the Southern stench in this thread my friend!

I guess cheating is cool with some people, sorry don't agree with that. And ftr no one in the Big 10 oversigns, it's heavily looked down on in the conference. It's unethical to do. You can check the oversigning cup if you don't believe me.
 
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^^That was a pretty good article. I was unaware of the self regulation the Little10+2 had instituted so long ago, but it makes sense with the sense of fairness they tend to exude, and cry about others not having. I suppose others would call it 'class'.

It's funny, too, that of the seven asked, only the ALA recruit knew - and he was informed by Saban. Interesting.

More than "looked down on" in the Little10+2, they instituted their own conference rules to not allow it.

Though, so did the SEC, and we see how well it's been enforced ;)



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If this thread slows down...we can restart it with making fun of "Leaders and Legends" and come up with some better names ;) This thread will.not.die.
 
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