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Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

Yourbaker said:
you might know a source for a collection of Covid symptoms and complications? I caught it early so not very far from the original virus.
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i've had a little look and there is large meta analysis here, so basically they looked for every study possible into long term effects and pulled out the things that came up most frequently:

www.nature.com

More than 50 long-term effects of COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis - Scientific Reports

COVID-19 can involve persistence, sequelae, and other medical complications that last weeks to months after initial recovery. This systematic review and meta-analysis aims to identify studies assessing the long-term effects of COVID-19. LitCOVID and Embase were searched to identify articles with...
www.nature.com www.nature.com

It does seem that most people recover fully but on different timescales.


Yourbaker said:
Losing the joy of coffee sucks.
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i'm a tea drinker but truly, it does. as someone who mostly eats for pleasure rather than sustenance, losing joy in eating/drinking is petrifying.

If your loss of joy in coffee is due to a loss of taste/smell, there is mention of a potential way to treat it here: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00055-6 - maybe smell training would be worth a shot?

i'm really sorry you're having these long term effects. have you been to your doctor? when i had post viral fatigue they were able to establish that it was that and not something else by doing blood tests, which somehow confirmed that i was still reacting to a virus i'd contracted 18 months ago and thus ruled out other origins for my symptoms. i know its anecdotal but i've had long post viral syndromes twice and made a full recovery both times. so you're not destined to be like this forever.

definitely get some medical advice because you don't want to wrongly assume its covid-related and thus miss out on treatment if its something else.
 
maassive said:
I know numbers may seem like a challenge for you, but (even) a 33% percent protection with vaccine is higher than 0% with no vaccine.
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and it might be challenging for you to understand that at that point, the benefits no longer outweight the risks

but go ahead and get that booster since it's the best protection from catching a head cold
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
and it might be challenging for you to understand that at that point, the benefits no longer outweight the risks

but go ahead and get that booster since it's the best protection from catching a head cold
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erm, you are aware that in the same post there was "Researchers found that two doses provided 70 percent protection against hospitalization "

since when did you get hospitalised from a head cold? or die for that matter. the vaccines were developed to reduce illness. they are still doing that. the benefits still hugely outweigh the risks. though i am amazed you have said 'no longer'- is this an admission, that despite being anti from the start, you recognise that the benefits have at least at some point outweighed the risks?
 
chinup said:
erm, you are aware that in the same post there was "Researchers found that two doses provided 70 percent protection against hospitalization "

since when did you get hospitalised from a head cold? or die for that matter. the vaccines were developed to reduce illness. they are still doing that. the benefits still hugely outweigh the risks. though i am amazed you have said 'no longer'- is this an admission, that despite being anti from the start, you recognise that the benefits have at least at some point outweighed the risks?
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most people getting hopstliazed with covid had shit fucking health in general were fucking obese. if people took care of their health then they have a low risk from covid 19. If you all do it eat mcdonalds sit on your ass your gonna probably get fucked over
 
Have any of these vaccines actually been modified since first release?

Just considering they were pretty good vs Covid-19 alpha (can I call it that?).

80% lower hospitalization vs Delta offering varying degrees of effective immunity well below the threshold needed to effectively have stopping power.

Check current hospitalizations, for patients admitted with Omicron vs caught it there. No one is seperating the variants to compare hospitalizations anywhere I can find so I can't seperate out the specific usefulness vs omicron. The data available only allows vaccine vs everything.

Once we get some valid data I would guess (purely my speculation), it will be about 10% reduction in hospitalizations and slightly less icu visits.

The disturbance to our society at this point far outweighs the small savings in healthcare. I don't care who stuck which mouse with what. We need to stop the insanity, plug the leaks and get our boat back in the water before some silly government policy stops us from growing food or building homes.
 
chinup said:
erm, you are aware that in the same post there was "Researchers found that two doses provided 70 percent protection against hospitalization "
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yea but you know who those researchers work for...

chinup said:
since when did you get hospitalised from a head cold?
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since omicron? idk when else? :shrug:

chinup said:
or die for that matter. the vaccines were developed to reduce illness. they are still doing that. the benefits still hugely outweigh the risks.
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nobody's dying from omicron - stop it already :laughing:

chinup said:
though i am amazed you have said 'no longer'- is this an admission, that despite being anti from the start, you recognise that the benefits have at least at some point outweighed the risks?
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sure - i'll give them the benefit of the doubt - maybe they worked for a few months there? :shrug:


all i know now, is that all of the vaccines are currently obsolete and it's only a little over a year later

so what does that tell ya?

:unsure:
 
maassive said:
it sure looked like these 10-15 millions of excess deaths since this coronavirus outbreak were caused by.... what exactly?
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-=SS=- said:
Actually it's only 5.46 million covid deaths according to the google counter.
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maassive said:
how apathetic is it to say that theres *only* a few million dead from this.
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chinup said:
you're nearly up to the part of a debate they tell you those people were old and/or obese or some other type of unhealthy and therefore their lives didn't matter
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ding ding ding, we have a winner:

TripSitterNZ said:
most people getting hopstliazed with covid had shit fucking health in general were fucking obese. if people took care of their health then they have a low risk from covid 19. If you all do it eat mcdonalds sit on your ass your gonna probably get fucked over
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TripSitterNZ said:
rasta peace is the only way foward folks. The communist take over is nearly complete the system we will be living under will only get worse. This is how they do it. You call me a troll or a conscpiarty theorist but i will laugh and laugh once society wakes up and is now living under a authoritiatiom state that controls your mind body and soul. Fuck the system these elitte fucks have pillaged the world.

Socaliasm is fucking insane please do not let this virus spread any further. Capiatlism is shit aswell but least those cunts gave us freedom
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Mr. Krinkle said:
because they're criminals
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The government are coercing people into getting jabbed, not the pharma companies. Perhaps the government are criminals, but I don't see how the pharma companies are doing anything wrong at all.

People have made a lot of statements about "them" doing this and that.

Is it the government or is it pharma?

Then, you vaguely say: both... but you cannot provide any evidence (or even a sensible explanation) to back that up.

Developing a vaccine that is (arguably) inefficient is not criminal.
 
birdup said:
The government are coercing people into getting jabbed, not the pharma companies. Perhaps the government are criminals, but I don't see how the pharma companies are doing anything wrong at all.

People have made a lot of statements about "them" doing this and that.

Is it the government or is it pharma?

Then, you vaguely say: both... but you cannot provide any evidence (or even a sensible explanation) to back that up.

Developing a vaccine that is (arguably) inefficient is not criminal.
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Well don’t you think the government and pharma are in this together ? They sure do seem like a team from the outside looking in…I can’t prove it but I wouldn’t be surprised if the pharma companies are cutting checks to government officials to rule in their favor…well not a literal check obviously, however those sly MFrs move money around undetected, like maybe buying art haha
 
birdup said:
The government are coercing people into getting jabbed, not the pharma companies. Perhaps the government are criminals, but I don't see how the pharma companies are doing anything wrong at all.

People have made a lot of statements about "them" doing this and that.

Is it the government or is it pharma?

Then, you vaguely say: both... but you cannot provide any evidence (or even a sensible explanation) to back that up.

Developing a vaccine that is (arguably) inefficient is not criminal.
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pharma is the og criminal

government gets the assist

they're all in cahoots

so it's not a "either/or"

it's both
 
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