RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread

[DJ 303]

Vasoconstriction can be an issue with this one, ive found out through experienced use.
Sometimes a little difficult to predict, but usually comes with sustained use (obviously inadvisable behavior).
Have a benzo on hand, instantly settles the matter on the rare occasion it happens.

 

[Zazen]

Hi, I came across methiopropramine when ordering Etizolam online (as a much better alternative to lorazpam for severe anxiety attacks) Got the mpa to try and perk me and and feel more awake/clarity etc without the depression leaking in. Tried it tonight and pleased with the effects, has just made me more alert and focused. When ready to wind down though as up early in the morning I wanted to take a lorazepam or Etizolam but really scared how it would interact.
Anyone have any ideas?!

Also, havin read discussions about methiopropramine being an maoi, does anyone know if it will therefore have the same long term effects and interations as other maoi prescribed medication?

Thank you.

I take a 1mg etizolam almost every time after taking mpa to help sleep afterwards, and there are plenty of other people in this thread mentioning taking benzo's after without problem .

 

[stratofortress]

Vaping seems to be the ROA of choice. I've vaped maybe 500mg over 24 hours (irresponsible perhaps, but my tolerance to stims is high atm).

Anyway...we know it's an RC, and we know we're 'human Guinea pigs'. We're playing Russian roulette with our health using drugs like this.

But I really do have some pretty serious concerns regarding the safety of smoking this stuff. Is there anybody slightly more knowledgeable than myself out there who can make an informed guess at how much damage inhaling mpa vapour does to the lungs? People have been vaping 'traditional' drugs like meth for long enough to see the effect such a practice has on the lungs; perhaps a parallel could be drawn between the two?

I just have visions of my poor alveoli all scarred and irreversibly damaged. But then the body is pretty good at regenerating and repairing.

Be awful though if we all seriously fucked our lungs up for a mild sense of stimulation...

 

[AngelMom]

I have a question about scram..I'm on it,and I smoked meth yesterday...will scram pick up on it?

 

[FloridaDeathTrip]

lol what the fuck is scram???? Is that a slang name for MPA???????

 

[Sprout]

To me 'scram' was always a more suitable alternative to 'dude! Drop the pipe - police nearby'. Kind of a subtle heads-up.
So possibly he's referring to probation drug tests?

 

[lynx2051]

Whats re dosing like on this? I've had 20-30mg at work no problem but never re-dosed, even when I'm at home. I don't find it very moreish. Also this is the only drug I wont snort, its probably the worst tasting drugs I've ever had.

 

[hypnotizee]

I received a sample of this recently.
After an allergy test a couple of days ago I decided to give it a try at a low starting dose today.

Took around 15mg 1:30hrs ago dissolved in some apple juice. Have a rare day off University today with absolutely no work to do.
Well so far the only really noticeable effect is a quite striking mood lift. I've been battling my depression for the last few years, never having found any help in SSRI's and the like, and having gotten to a really low point when my girlfriend of 2 years left me 3 weeks ago. Right now I can honestly say that I'm feeling good. No depressive thoughts, nothing. Just feeling normal - good.
Have spent the last 1:30hrs listening to music and surfing the web. Other than the mood lift I haven't experienced anything. I feel like I could be more productive working on something, but I seriously don't have anything to do so I can't say anything about the ability as a study/productivity aid of MPA.

Oh, and there's no noticeable stimulation at this dose.

 

[blight12]

To somebody who has tried both, how would you compare it to methcathinone in effect (which i really enjoy)? Research tells me its similar in effect such as the subtlety and less euphoria compared to amps. Also has anybody successfully shipped to RSA?

 

[colors]

I usually load 30-40mg MPA in an oil pipe and vape it all in a couple hits. The smoke is very smooth and easy to hold for extended lengths.

The initial buzz is great! It doesn't feel like amphetamine or a stimulant at all to me. It just makes me giddy and content for about 15-20min.

I get almost nothing in terms of peripheral stimulation - although there is a desire to do things on it (work, sex, walk, whatever). There is just a pure sense of satisfaction and mental reward.
It kind of reminds me of nitrous in that sense - although it is not nearly as intense or fleeting as nitrous and the headspace is different - but it seems to elecit the same kind of response in my brain. I've never tried crack, maybe it's akin to that? I don't know. All I can say is that it's the polar opposite reaction to what I get when I smoke MDPV (jittery, tense, anxious, etc).

After the first buzz wears off I will inevitably chase the initial sensation but it is never replicated. This can be extremely frustrating - I'll vape through another 100mg and not get anywhere close the original feeling. A hit every 15min or so does seem to keep me going though if I'm cleaning up or trying to stay awake.

As far as negatives, I get a occiputal headache sometimes and some tightness in my chest near my heart. The back of my skull feels generally 'foggy' for a bit and I'm not mentally sharp.

edit: I just tried plugging 35mg. Got my heart pumping and little bit of anxiety, definitely feel more physical stimulation than vaping, although the initial rush was absent.

 

[scottry]

My bad experience

Hey, mpa has been getting quite popular among my group of friends here for the last few months and I have been doing about 200mg every fri or sat over the course of the night. We all quite enjoy the effects, chatty, slight euphoria and we all have a good dance at our local club.

Anyway, ive been getting more confident with the drug and on wednesday i had a party. Done a bit more than i would usually do, i do it orarly btw, about 400mg. I was also consuming alot of wine and vodka. Had a great buzz on the stuff and my mates were enjoying thierselves too.

Got to the early hours and my mates left and i couldnt sleep, the effects were wearing off so I started doing 50mg blasts.Each time i done these the effects were wearing off faster, i was still drinking quite alot of wine as well. I recon in total i done just under 900mg in total over the course of the whole night.

Anyway, heres where the fun begins. Couldnt sleep for the rest of the day and when the effects started wearing off i felt so ill. Proper nausa and a cracking headache. I had similar negative effects to what other had reported, dizzyness, tingling limbs, my head was going round in circles.

Anyway to cut a long story short i never slept for two days, spewd up twice, i havent eatin for three days. In bed my teeth were chattering and i nearly fainted getting out the bath. And it is the worst after effects ive ever had from drugs and over the last 10 years and ive done my fair share of mdma, coke and mkat. Its day three for me lying in bed typing this and i still dont feel right or in the slightest bit hungry. Ive got this wierd headache and i still feel sicky.

This is just a warning for those who are starting to enjoy this drug and maybe want to start increasing the dose, its a bad idea lol.

Personnaly now after ive seen what this stuff does at higher doses im finished with it. This has been worse thay any e or mephadrone binge ive had.

Peace

 

[Transform]

Sounds like a classic case of stimulants and alcohol pulling in opposite directions, allowing excessive consumption of both, with all the grisly consequences.

There is a reason that alcohol is one of the worst drug mixers going.

 

[killerd]

I take Ginkgo Biloba with my MPA always now, find it helps considerably with the vascoconstriction, Ginkgo pills are ok but the tea seems to work best.

Must say less booze = more fun, goes for most things psychoactive imo.

 

[THCified]

900mg mixed with alcohol is a lot, so i think it's no wonder you're feeling damn shitty!

 

[scottry]

I think the direct mixing it with drink added to ill effects, one to watch out for.

Must just also say ive had some food, fruit and a vitamin tablet and im starting to feel better. Just as well i was off work for a week lol.

 

[FlyinHigh82]

For those wondering how best to take this, I got best results by far from plugging. I'm not usually one for plugging substances, since I'm usually content with insuffulation, but in this case I think I may actually stick to plugging as my favourite RoA. It gives a much more intense, longer lasting buzz than vaping, meaning that the experience is both more enjoyable and gives you more bang for your buck.

I'm glad I came across this thread.

Ordered a bit of this, snorted about 30 mg at first. I really enjoyed the high, clean stimulation and just a bit of euphoria. Very easy on the body, no awful comedown. Not terribly moreish like MPDV.

It did hurt like a motherfucker, though. Ouch! Plus, would give me a runny nose the following day. I think the reason it isn't so moreish for me is because it fucking hurts so much to snort I just figured fuck it, not worth the pain.

However, after using it a few times, it just wasn't doing it for me anymore. Mild stimulation, and would need stupid amounts to feel anything.

I've never plugged a drug in my life. Reading this thread (to see if anybody else experienced the same as me) made me curious.

I had a small syringe that came with an inkjet refill kit I ordered ages ago. Took the needle off, put 40 mg of the fluffy white powder in, and slowly added about 4 mL of water.

Pulled down my pants, put some hand cream on the end of the syringe, and slowly pushed it up there whilst thinking "I can't believe I'm doing this lol."

Quick squirt (which I gotta say feels funny), pants up, syringe washed, and off to lay down a bit and fuck around on the lappy.

That was half an hour ago.

About 5 minutes later the effects start kicking in. About 10 minutes later I'm feeling really good.

Right now, 30 minutes into it, I'm feeling really fucking nice. MPA is pretty damn good!

Not just stimulation, but a total body high. Super clear mind. It's also made me horny as fuck. Off to watch some porn after this post.

Plugging is definitely the way to go for this chemical. Totally worth it, not terribly inconvenient, and will probably be my only ROA for this chemical in the future.

Plugged another 50 mg about an hour after the last dose.

Beautiful.

Feelin' really good!

I've been bombing it all night. not much of a buzz going on either. Could have got a bit of sex the night but that fucking MPA has ruined it, in not one, two ways. I'd hardly say ifs a great buzz and it stops you from getting hard, so now i'm pissed off i've no benzo's and i'm horny as fuck, but can't do anything

Yeah, I'd have the same problem if I snorted more than a small amount of the stuff.

It'd make me horny, but would shrink my cock and balls and make jerking off fucking impossible.

Just couldn't get hard.

This side-effect seems to be eliminated, or at least severely diminished, by plugging the stuff.

Still made me horny as fuck, but I've wanked three times already since starting without any problem whatsoever - which is a total double plus, since orgasms on this stuff are AMAZING.

Yup, I'm likin' the MPA!

Then I tried about 50mg mixed in with warm water, then shot up my arse with a plastic syringe, which btw is a much, MUCH better method of plugging than just shoving something up there because of the surface area.

About 10 minutes later I was in heaven. This is considerably better than speed, coke or even ecstacy tablets and I put it up there with mdma. Having said that I haven't plugged any of those other drugs because I haven't used stimulants for a while, weary of dealers cutting up their product. I've always been more of a downer person...but this has changed my mind.

This feels a lot like a good mdma high, and I've used that drug enough times to know. There's a body high element to it, intense concentration, some teeth grinding, major alertness, some sexual arousal that I can ignore for now, great need to socialize with others. Everything people reported except I feel fantastic! I'll have to go back and read this whole thread now, I've been remiss so far and only read some of it.

The bottom line (lol), try getting it from a really well reviewed source and plug it with warm water and then report back...it's a different animal...

Yup, totally different animal.

A totally different, FANTASTIC, animal.

My biggest regret is how much of this stuff I wasted in the past by snorting it.

 

[Nicklazz]

Wasted a lot yesterday on snorting it, 700-750mg. Was my first time using it, the first two small lines hit me good with some mild euphoria, but after that nothing much happen, other than horny and a little stimulated. Fuckin couldn't stop redosing. No side effects other than a little headache.

Is plugging really the only good ROA for this substance? No one have good effects from a high oral dose (100-200mg)?

 

[Zazen]

Wasted a lot yesterday on snorting it, 700-750mg. Was my first time using it, the first two small lines hit me good with some mild euphoria, but after that nothing much happen, other than horny and a little stimulated. Fuckin couldn't stop redosing. No side effects other than a little headache.

Is plugging really the only good ROA for this substance? No one have good effects from a high oral dose (100-200mg)?

Oral is good for the stimulation and for generally staying awake, but you'll get nothing euphoria wise and dosing that high in one go would probably produce some significant vascoconstriction.
Put it this way - since I first plugged it I've been through a few grams and not once used a different RoA, and it's the only drug that I can say this for.

 

[Coveman]

Hello all,

Firstly I just want to say that I can't believe I just sat here for the best part of 3 hours and read every single reply in this topic.

I came about this thread because I am looking for an cheaper/safer alternative to Phet. While I wouldn't say I am addicted to Phet if it was handed to me I wouldn't turn it down. Now I don't know if its just me or the Phet that ive been taking (for the best part of 4 months) is off low quality or I just have a general tolerance to it but after I take it, normally i'd purchase a gram and would use it all up within 10 hours or so, I don't really get any real bad side effects.

Normally while in the middle of taking it say about 2 hours after initial dose, I can't comment on the amount as I just dip my finger in and eat it..The Phet I normally get is more pasty then a powder so I wouldn't like to sniff it. Anyways, the only real side effects I get are, increased HR and Bloodpressue, I can't give you figures as I don't have the equipment but I can really feel my heart beating. I also sweat LOADS. I have quite a physical job (which is the reason I take it) so I put the increased stats partly down to that. If I take it first thing in the morning which will be around 4:30am (I work 6-2 and then 2-10, rotating weekly) my last dose would be around 4pm and come 10pm when im normally fast asleep, I find it diffiuclt to actually nod off however this is to be expected.

Anyways, back to the actual questions. I placed an order for 1g of MPA on Friday and I should be expecting delivery of it Tuesday. I wan't to know basically is this the right RC for me. I solely want it to crack on with my job, I don't want it to be like mcat where I think im Mr. Amazing and I want to chat complete shit to everyone that I come into contact with. I'd also like to know dosages, like I stated ive read this entire thread (without the use of Phet, which is quite amazing) so im thinking possibly 35-50mg which will be wrapped in a rizla and just swallowed. Ive read reports this sniffing this is somewhat painful and so that ROA is pretty much out the window. The same goes for plugging. Whenever someone mentions that to me I cringe at the idea. I have no idea how to vape something or chase this magic dragon nonsense even though im an occasional weed smoker. Could I just replace weed with MPA and mix it with my backy and have a MPA spliff?

After I have taken MPA I will make a full TR however until then any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Edit:

How about CFA (Camfetamine) would that be the better thing to take?

Thanks,

#Coveman.

 

[Nicklazz]

I will choose MPA over Camfetamine anytime anyday^ Camfetamine is crap.