If i ever try again this combo, this is probably the way i will do it...I tried it again after pre-dosing with 200mg of MDAI as I had had good results using MDAI in combos with 4-mmc and M1 and it produced a much better experience all round. I took the MDAI orally and waited for the effects to become noticable which took 30 minutes. I then insufflated 30mg of MPA and instead of the pure stimulant effects I started to feel a glow of warm euphoria coming on. This built to a nice happy plateau after 30 minutes and after an hour I topped up with another 30mg MPA line. Music was great and I was soon dancing around the room to Pearl's excellent remix of J00F. The serotonin glow and energized feeling lasted for 4 hours after which the next line of MPA was more like the usual pure stimulant and I knew that the MDAI was wearing off. After a couple of spliffs and 1/2 a bottle of wine I actually managed to get a few hours sleep.
I tried it again after pre-dosing with 200mg of MDAI as I had had good results using MDAI in combos with 4-mmc and M1 and it produced a much better experience all round. I took the MDAI orally and waited for the effects to become noticable which took 30 minutes. I then insufflated 30mg of MPA and instead of the pure stimulant effects I started to feel a glow of warm euphoria coming on. This built to a nice happy plateau after 30 minutes and after an hour I topped up with another 30mg MPA line. Music was great and I was soon dancing around the room to Pearl's excellent remix of J00F. The serotonin glow and energized feeling lasted for 4 hours after which the next line of MPA was more like the usual pure stimulant and I knew that the MDAI was wearing off. After a couple of spliffs and 1/2 a bottle of wine I actually managed to get a few hours sleep.
you combine mdai with 4-mmc and m1? Thought m1+mdai would be very dangerous as they are both serotonin thingamajigs. 4-mmc is good enough on it's own I feel. I've combined m1 and 4mmc and found it amazing, but after drilling 4-mmc every weekend tried m1 on it's own and found it quite dull, no rush to speak of, but in combo amazing. but 4mmc on it's own does the trick. felt ruined for about a week after doing the combo though. but i did fuck up by adding mdpv, weed and beer on the end of a 3 day binge so that could've made it a lot worse.
Wonder if mpa + mdai would feel as good as 4mmc? or does it fuck you up bad? heard about depersonalisation and all that nastyness. don't want to go back to the days of being up 4 days and hallucinating due to stimulant psychosis and no sleep etc.
Might just wait for this pro-meph thingy if it ever materialises.
female, 56kg, mainly experienced with emphatogen. stimulants but also has tried speed, mdpv, buphedrone...
roughly 25mg mpa snorted at 8:30am. omg snorting it was so painful. pure stimulation without any euphoria felt soon afterwards. heart rate deffo up. not able to tell exactly when the come down came. it felt speedy for maybe first 30mins then i felt normal, just more awake with lots of energy (mind you i was rather tired in the morning and slept only 4 hours that day). workout in the gym around 15:00 felt good. at 20:00 first yawn. sleep easily achived around 1am.
i think that this stuff is not bad as a functional stimulant. in the ammount i took i felt no euphoria at all and my headspace was clear. i rate mdpv better for the high (as shitty as it is) but much worse for come down (even one 10mg dose leaves me jittery and nervous and uncomfotable). this on the other hand had virtually no comedown. better than buphedrone because one could at least feel it, meanwhile buphedrone (up to 20mg snorted) i did not feel anything (except for higher beat rate). i can imagine it can be ok at some social setting with drinks too just to add some stimulation. it felt comfortable when being among people (unlike mdpvc). the only problem is that snorting is really nasty and painful (pity that from what i read it does not work orally). i would really like to know the safety profile of it and how much it affects seretonin (i felt non at all) because i may use it sometimes to "wake up"
imho the problem is that people expected another mephedrone or some euphoric stimulant and this should be not compared with such.
had two grams just of late of this because it was going cheep but it works a wonder for calming down a trip or come up . dnt even rate it much a first now its part of the trip kit
Just curious as to how a stimulant 'calms down' a trip? Could you elaborate?