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RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread V2

Done in very sparse, small to medium small shots, its helping a lot make this case of a nasty cold more bearable, combined with some 5F-AKB-48 and AKB-48the muscle aches are almost gone, Although walking about it still a pain with my bad hips and knee. MPA Seems to work well in combination with the cannabinoids in question as long as its not overdone. A couple of SMALL IV shots has cleared my head and helped take away some of the muscle pain-my chronic bursitis results in some awful, hard to shift leg cramps in my calf, but between the two, plus a muscle relaxer (tizanidine/zanaflex) I can actually think of getting something done.
 
What's the deal on mixing amphetamines and naproxen? Both thin blood..at dangerous levels though..? I know chance of low bp but what if bp is usually high and controlled by beta blockers? Aspirin is known to prevent heart attack so does that still hold true with naproxen but mixed with the amphetamines at same time..? Please any input or known advise on any/all the drugs listed, combos and effects.
 
...to keep myself motivated for deskwork long hours each day. IV works for me, just like it. Now coming up 6 months with a couple of days off every week or so, IVing two or three times a day about 100-250mg each shot. Vascoconstriction is a real problem with this and strain on heart... but it keeps me working. Am going to try MDAI combo and maybe some AMT with MPA when I can afford to take a day off. Have also IVed EPH but didn't like the grumpy comedown.

Effects are gentle, I think that's what's a bit deceptive about things like this - you can get addicted to subtlety, think it's much safer. Over-use is best avoided.
 
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Been using Methiopropamine for the past couple of weeks to help with appetite/study focus. Once a day, size 00 capsule (see below for approx dosage - sorry, don't have mg scales!)

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No real complaints so far. Keeps me alert and level headed plus there is virtually no comedown effect come the late evening/following day.

My only concern is the level of vasoconstriction encountered... I fear it may cause heart/blood problems over time since I'm dosing six days a week. Albeit, at a low (responsible?) dosage.

I've hunted high and low on the net but there doesn't seem to be any real research done on the possible long term effects of this stuff. Have any of you used it long term at a low dose? Any negative or dangerous consequences?

Cheers!
 
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50mg oral, empty-stomach, gel-cap - keeps me awake for 12 hours. Not very jittery. Mildly nice come up. Tired the next day. A nice stim, but nothing more.
 
Does anyone know if MPA would be safe to take with an SSNRI? I've taken MPA with an SSRI before with no problems.
 
Apparently the thing is neurotoxic, similarly to standard amphetamines, so I heard somewhere, a while back. There was some reported study done on this and it came up as neurotoxic, so be mindful before experimenting. I have no links for the report unfortunately as it was months ago when I found out about it.

I myself have experience with this chemical, mainly by i.v route and I find it very pleasant, euphoric and speedy, but re-dosing is useless and doesn't bring on desired effects. I have tried taking it orally and intra-nasally, but the effects were too blunt for my liking.

I find that around 150-200mg of MPA dissolved in 2ml of water, then injected, brings on best results. I have no idea what side effects might be possibly present, but I can tell from my experience that I have never experienced any worrying negative effects on my body, even after re-dosing it multiple times. I can only assume that the chemical is fairly safe to use in larger doses than previously speculated, therefore the overdose curve is much higher.
 
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Apparently the thing is neurotoxic, similarly to standard amphetamines, so I heard somewhere, a while back. There was some reported study done on this and it came up as neurotoxic, so be mindful before experimenting. I have no links for the report unfortunately as it was months ago when I found out about it.

I myself have experience with this chemical, mainly by i.v route and I find it very pleasant, euphoric and speedy, but re-dosing is useless and doesn't bring on desired effects. I have tried taking it orally and intra-nasally, but the effects were too blunt for my liking.

I find that around 150-200mg of MPA dissolved in 2ml of water, then injected, brings on best results. I have no idea what side effects might be possibly present, but I can tell from my experience that I have never experienced any worrying negative effects on my body, even after re-dosing it multiple times. I can only assume that the chemical is fairly safe to use in larger doses than previously speculated, therefore the overdose curve is much higher.
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Interesting... I'm quite content with the stuff so far as it does exactly what I require and has no apparent adverse effects. On the other hand, I'm a total panic merchant when it comes to worrying about what damage I may be doing with such constant use (even at said small amounts). I've seen one or two posts on BL where people claim to have used it for a few months daily with serious consequence. Hypertension, liver damage, infertility to name a few.

Nothing is worth that level of irreversible harm. That being said, they may-well have been abusing the stuff in terms of dosage... Still, the neurotoxic effects would occur regardless of the amount used when administering daily I would imagine. :\

Don't suppose anybody is aware of any "safer" stims (used responsibly) that could provide similar results alongside peace of mind that it ain't utterly destroying your brain/body in the process!
 
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I don't know any stimulants that would cause less damage. There aren't that many out there in the first place. I think methiopropamine is the only stim comparable to amphetamines that is actually good enough to provide lasting stimulation and decent euphoria. Seeing that most stims on the market are cathinones and DRI agents, none of them acting like amphetamines. It is as good as it's gonna get I suppose, because there is no stimulant that won't cause damage to the brain/body. I guess it's the fact of risk that you have to accept before taking stims. The way of acting alone brings up concerns like dehydration, high blood pressure, fast heartbeat, depletion of nutrients, dopamine depletion and CNA overload.

I have this view that it's far better to use once by taking a large dose and really enjoy the high, rather than small doses that don't give the same satisfaction and make you crave for more. Even from logical point of view, it makes sense that redosing stimulants only pro-longs and intensify the negative effects, even if you don't get that impression. Apart from that, second hit is never as good as the first one :P
 
I get-cap 60mgs on an empty stomach. Gives me energy and keeps e up all night if need be.

What else to do with it?
 
The Vasoconstriction from this stuff is ridiculous.
Can't believe I took it almost every day a couple of months back.
Glad i'm off it.
 
The Vasoconstriction from this stuff is ridiculous.
Can't believe I took it almost every day a couple of months back.
Glad i'm off it.
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Yeah it can get bad, especially if you keep redosing. I've been taking it for about 4 days now and only getting about 3 hours sleep each night and I look like shit. Just really pale and unhealthy looking. I did take two multivitimins per day but I've probably only been eating around 200 calories each day too. Also I did drink quite a bit on 2 of the days.

** but I guess that's what sunbeds are for ;)
 
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well back on this stuff again once the post has been going to try and not go through the 3g in 48 hours like normal might try plugging and see how that works out today
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3g in 48 hours? 8o
 
Inconsistencies between methiopropamine (MPA) batches

For the past few months, I have been getting MPA from a UK vendor in the form of an off-white very hydrophillic powder. Rocks of the powder crush down into a flat layer instead of breaking apart with any sort of force. It has the same consistency as pure MDPV or pure cocaine. It's "pastie" or as others have said, it "looks wet."

This MPA had a pungent odor and upon insufflation, it caused a sharp burn which lasted no more than a few minutes. It would hurt but the pain would subside after a few minutes.

I got a new batch today and it has the same consistency and color, but barely has an odor. My nose doesnt like it one bit. My nostrils clog after I take a line. The burn is intense and lasts until I wash it out of my nose. The burn is nearly as bad as snorting 2C-E or 4-FA.

As far as effects go, a friend and I have been insufflating 20-50 mg lines all day (at least twice an hour for 12 hours) and we're just tired and can't stop yawning. It never really "kicked in." The old batch had a subtle stimulation and increased drive and confidence. This new batch gives me muscle aches, a fever, hot flashes and cold extremities.

We took small doses to start off, to account for potency changes, allergy tests etc.

I have confirmed that putting water on/near the new MPA powder turns it brown like the old batch. The effects are significantly different. MPA went from my favorite stimulant and lifesaver to something I'm weary of using again. A single 30-50mg line hits the back of my throat and my nose and throat are uncomfortable for at least 30-40 minutes. The first time I tried this new batch, my nose went numb and I wasn't able to smell anything.

I tried 80 mg orally a few hours ago but I can barely focus my eyes on anything (reading gives me a headache) had more energy when I woke up and before I took any MPA this morning. After a few hours there's also a noticeable crash. It's almost as if the vendor mixed EPH in the batch maybe because plain MPA isn't recreational. After this experience, I realized why MPA has mixed reviews. It's likely due simply to people trying a shitty batch. MPA should not "burn"—it should just sting for a minute or two.
 
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Gooft-ixnay on the AMT/MPA combination. Potentially dangerous. AMT is a pretty weak MAOI, but I still wouldn't add amphetamines to it.

Besides why bother, it has a pretty strong stimulant push in and of itself, it is afterall, the indole analog of amphetamine. And AMT lasts a very long time.
 
AMT has stimulating properties strong enough to crawl the walls, as they say. Constant urge to move and stretch will ruin your lying/sitting experience. I wouldn't mix AMT with MPA, can't see no point to it anyway. MPA will ruin the hallucinatory effects of AMT, and make the experience even more shallow than it already is.

If you're after MDMA experience, then I recommend you try APB chemicals.
 
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