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The Mephedrone Thread (4-mmc)
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belarki
Bluelight Crew
^ Yeh I've just read about it too 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/mar/17/three-arrested-suspected-mephedrone-deaths
Tragic
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/mar/17/three-arrested-suspected-mephedrone-deaths
Tragic
Verybuffed
Bluelighter
^^thanks for that.
It will be interesting to hear the cause of death.
It will be interesting to hear the cause of death.
perfect haze
Bluelighter
Methadone
Was just the usual shoddy UK press.
Was just the usual shoddy UK press.
Verybuffed
Bluelighter
You mean Mephedrone.
lil angel15
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Verybuffed
Bluelighter
Hmmm, somehow I think there is more to this story. If 4-MMC is still legal in the UK, why were 3 people arrested?
Thanks for the link
voluntary self-abuse
So there is a statute prohibiting "ordering a deadly new drug over the internet"? Does anybody know what he was actually charged for - because I read in a few places that he admitted to importing mephedrone which is a derivative of methcathinone.
Very nice to come clean young man, but mephedrone is NOT a derivative of methcathinone. It is a derivative of alpha-bromo-4-methylpropiophenone. I mean, why do you voluntarily suffer punishment if you have not committed a crime? First, they have to show that you broke some law - then you can plead guilty.
So what law did the boy break?
So there is a statute prohibiting "ordering a deadly new drug over the internet"? Does anybody know what he was actually charged for - because I read in a few places that he admitted to importing mephedrone which is a derivative of methcathinone.
Very nice to come clean young man, but mephedrone is NOT a derivative of methcathinone. It is a derivative of alpha-bromo-4-methylpropiophenone. I mean, why do you voluntarily suffer punishment if you have not committed a crime? First, they have to show that you broke some law - then you can plead guilty.
So what law did the boy break?
puffNfresh
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Thanks for that.
Appears that methadone was involved as well, that makes more sense.
Verybuffed
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You were right. There was no mention of methadone in the first article that was posted here but the new ones have it.
puffNfresh
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Yeah read that on a link on the previous page about the death of the two young guys in the uk. Typical media hysteria seems to be putting pressure on the uk authorities to do something quickly.
There should be some type of control on a drug of this nature, not sure criminalizing it is the way to go.
There should be some type of control on a drug of this nature, not sure criminalizing it is the way to go.
hyroller
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hmmmm.... mephedrone (CNS stimulant) + methadone (CNS depressant) = a cocktail for cardio-pulmonary failure, one should think....
if a substance has a proven track record of producing so many ill side-effects, its prohibition is a welcome move if you ask me.
not to mention, more seizures ought to mean less cheap, immo version shit to be passed off as MDxx (I have noticed a reduction in this trend over the last few months, despite being on the sidelines of the party populus, my feelers are always out)
if a substance has a proven track record of producing so many ill side-effects, its prohibition is a welcome move if you ask me.
not to mention, more seizures ought to mean less cheap, immo version shit to be passed off as MDxx (I have noticed a reduction in this trend over the last few months, despite being on the sidelines of the party populus, my feelers are always out)
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The hysteria surronding this drug is now firmly out of control. And it will only increase the number of people who want to try it, as is often the case.
It is staggering that the early misleading reports into what happened have resulted in them rushing through a ban which is going to happen in a week. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects certain important people released limited information about this case knowing the effect it would have. It was the sort of sad story they were waiting for. Although a ban was eventually inevitable, as is the introduction of the specific substance into schedule 9 in this country, which means the end of the road for any "grey" area argument (if there was one).
The people over there are going nuts about this and I suspect many, many people are going to be sitting on little mountains of it for months or even years to come. For their own use of course.
It is staggering that the early misleading reports into what happened have resulted in them rushing through a ban which is going to happen in a week. The conspiracy theorist in me suspects certain important people released limited information about this case knowing the effect it would have. It was the sort of sad story they were waiting for. Although a ban was eventually inevitable, as is the introduction of the specific substance into schedule 9 in this country, which means the end of the road for any "grey" area argument (if there was one).
The people over there are going nuts about this and I suspect many, many people are going to be sitting on little mountains of it for months or even years to come. For their own use of course.
hyroller
Bluelighter
Did anyone else just catch the 'Miaow' segment on the Kerri Anne Kennerley Morning Show??
thestudent14
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Nope sorry bro, but I'd love to hear some of the details.
I'm interested to see how its currently viewed by most people. Most of my friends still have very little or no idea what it is.
I'm interested to see how its currently viewed by most people. Most of my friends still have very little or no idea what it is.
The papers are rife with discussion on this. The 29th is the date that the ACMD is to present its appraisal of mephedrone to the home office. The home office is allowed to pass legislation only after that happens.
But they have said that due to Nutt and other members leaving the ACMD they cannot give a proper opinion or something like that...
hyroller
Bluelighter
(pssst... I'm a woman... lol)
Can someone please change the little bit under my name, where it says Bluelighter, to 'bears ovaries'....?
More or less they just launched it off the back of the two recent deaths to have happened in the UK (no mention of the fact methadone was also involved), and how dangerous and prevalent it was over there because it hadn't been outlawed yet. They described it as being a stimulant drug (initially likening it to meth and speed, before noting that users had referred to it as a cross between coke and ecstacy)/an ideal choice for all-night partying, particularly due to its comparatively low price; talked about the recent import seizures, how it had been getting sent through initially (plant fertiliser/growth mix) via the mail... don't think the recent case was actually mentioned though.
I can't believe they're calling it Miaow. lol
Can someone please change the little bit under my name, where it says Bluelighter, to 'bears ovaries'....?
More or less they just launched it off the back of the two recent deaths to have happened in the UK (no mention of the fact methadone was also involved), and how dangerous and prevalent it was over there because it hadn't been outlawed yet. They described it as being a stimulant drug (initially likening it to meth and speed, before noting that users had referred to it as a cross between coke and ecstacy)/an ideal choice for all-night partying, particularly due to its comparatively low price; talked about the recent import seizures, how it had been getting sent through initially (plant fertiliser/growth mix) via the mail... don't think the recent case was actually mentioned though.
I can't believe they're calling it Miaow. lol
Its not hysteria its media hype. Journalists are people that write to make a living and there is a good story running around so journalists write...just like birds that flap their wings for a living.
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