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The Mega-Merged Buprenorphine Thread!

^ yeah its good to get actual user feedback on these meds - they don't always work exactly the way they tell you they will. I've had some people tell me they get a speedy effect from bupe, & some others that it makes them very irritable & liable to fly of the handle. It's definitely weird shit, compared to morphine or heroin anyway. When you add in naloxone as well - anything could happen! (Don't you love being a guinea pig??)
 
^ what is your dosage like? I was on Suboxone for 1.5 years when I finally got off it. It really wasn't to much of a hassle as it was mainly all in my head. The w/d's I experienced were nothing except a bit or irritability and sleeplessness but it lasted only a short time and was easily masked using other drugs.

I am back on bupe now [long boring story behind that one] and plan to hop off it sometime soon. I am just curious about how your are doing your taper. Previously I just skimmed my doses down to .5mgs and than to .25mgs than I just started to stretch out my dosing schedule to once every other day after about a week of that, I went down to less than .25mgs and dosed twice a week and than hopped off.

ALOT of bupe w/d is mental your doctor is correct, I struggled at first trying to get off it as I couldn't seem to get past that .5mg mark the whole time I was thinking to myself this is going to suck, bad w/d premonitions, etc. I just had to get out of that mind frame and truthfully the w/d weren't shit and I have been thru a bunch of different w/d's before. Good luck to you, its all in your head [somewhat, lol].
 
I'm stable - have been on it for a week. stable at the 2mg dose. You guys are right, i should not be abusing this medication...thats the whole point of it. However, the doctor is on vacation, and these are the pills i have, so i kinda have to use them. I plan on telling the nurse tomorrow that the dosage was wrong.

and FYI - it wasn't a pharmacy error - the actual script was for Suboxone 8/2 MG. . . After being induced on 2mg Subutex.

as far as why i'm on the sub,. I formed a methadone addiction. I was taking about 30-40 milligrams per day. When i stopped and went on the subutex, i took 60mg and didn't get high.
 
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Methadone--->Suboxone--->Codeine Detox

After weening from 80 to 40 mg. of methadone, I've realized that the last 40 mg. would be nearly imposible. So I've been stocking up on things to help me get off the methadone and eventually off opiates entirely.
Heres what I got in the opiate family:

30 Methadone Biscuits (40 mg.)
10 Suboxone (8 mg.)
90 Codeine (30 mg.)

I also have plenty of benzos (Klonopin, Xanax & Valium) and other non-narcotic detox meds (Compazine, Zanaflex, Trazadone, Serequel, etc.).

My plan is to detox from the methadone with the Suboxone which I'd like to do as soon as possible; however, for the past couple weeks I've been using dope daily so first I gotta get stable at 40 mgs. Then once I run out of Suboxone I figure I can take codeine for the next week or so for any discormfort, of course in descending doses.

I's like some feedback on this plan. I have experience with Suboxone, both in a detox situation and with maintenance. I know I have to wait 48 hrs after my last dose of methadone. Should I try to get down to 30 mg. first? How much Suboxone do you think I'll need for the first few days? Any other suggestions?
 
I'm thinking you can use 4mg the first day of WDs (wait until WDs), even if you exhibit some further WD symptoms, take only 4mg more as needed, during the first 24-hour period of true WD symptoms. Following that, day 2 will be a bit more difficult, so count on 8mg again, used at one time. The following day, try and use 4mg to get by, if necessary, use 2mg more (this plan calls for you stretching your 10 8mg). Again, next day, 4mg, using no more than 2mg to calm symptoms (OTC remedies to sleep and control bowels, though I doubt bowels will be an issue, and sleep WILL be an issue). Continue for the remainder of the subuxones with 4mg, 2mg if you can get by (the half life of this drug is insane, and you should get by on the 6mg last day to 3 or so days, with 2mg a day). Then, after 3 days of 2mg, cut to 1mg daily, adding 1mg if needed. Save the codeine for 36 hours of obvious WDs when subs are finished. Use no more than 200mg a day, which should give you a solid 7-day period (with a few mgs over the 200mgs a day when necessary). You will be fine...most of it is mental, which becomes the hardest part when the program is complete.

edited to add...take the xanax at low doses during the day (you should not need them during the sub period, save them for the codeine period) and seroquel to sleep ,...save all of the nonOTC drugs for the codeine period...

Good luck, keep us posted.

swybs
 
Bupe (or Methadone) MAINTENANCE in Northern NJ

For reasons I'll try to explain later (tomorrow), I really want to go on a maintenance program in Morristown, NJ (Morris County, Northern NJ). Bupe would be ideal since I haven't used since Monday (got locked up). I'm real afraid of using, even if just once in awhile, due to my soon approaching court date.

Also, my insurance does NOT cover any type of maintenance program. How much do bupe and methadone cost per month, approx.? Thanks for replying ASAP as I have an assessment tomorrow.
 
Yeah I was gonna post a suggestion, but swybs pretty much summed it up!! :D I'd say stick to his plan and you should be able to minimize the w/d's pretty well....
 
I don't know about NJ, but my program costs $65 a week for the script, then $25 to get it filled, which comes out to $90.....a fraction of what I was spending on heroin!!! which is cool....


I guess this post doesn't help you too much, but I would imagine the prices are similar????? I dunno....let us know though, I'm curious to see what these progams cost in other states... :)
 
Another concern is that I may have difficulty locating a Bupe doctor...I'm under the impression that they can only have a certain # of patients and some times there is quite a waiting period.
Itchy, is that $65/week + $25/fill WITHOUT insurance? With insurance prices wouldn't really help me as my insurance doesn't cover maintenance programs (fuck 'em). I'm also assuming 1 week scripts are the most they will prescribe at a time, correct?
...And I'm prolly really going out on a limb here, but what do you think the chances are of getting my psychiatrist to prescribe Bupe for Treatment-Resistant Depression? I really doubt that my shrink is licensed to Rx it, but I can find a doctor that is licensed, get my shrink to recommend s/he Rx me bupe for TRD (but technically for maintenance and kinda get by the terrible system that is health insurance, especially mental health).
I have that app't./assessment at 11:30 AM tomorrow (Thursday EST) but it really only for like outpatient treatment bullshit...basically to hopefully get PTI before going to court and getting me back in my parents house and at least get back on speaking terms some of my family.
DOPE FUCKS YOU UP! But then again, it'll probably always be the greatest feeling/experience I ever have in my life.
One more thing, I'm diagnosed as Bipolar. I say "diagnosed" b/c I some times doubt the diagnosis b/c others said I "ramble a lot" but this is only when I'm REAL high on dope so I suspect the dope was the cause but since others didn't know about my addiction, they considered it a manic symptom. Now, I am feeling a little manic, as probably seen by the length of this post. I think I'm talking more than I usually do although I did just get out of jail and didn't have much conversation there...but there is definitely some mania. I'm wondering if this will be temporary (if so, how long would you estimate?) or if it may persist since I'm no longer getting the sedative effect of heroin, yet another reason to be on a maintenance program. Like I said, I'm quitting to improve my situation and definitely not because I want to...I want to make a call every minute to get one or two more bags for that "one last shot." Thanks to anyone who actually read some/all of this.
 
That's pretty much what I had planned. Thanks for your confirmation. Hopefully I'll be off opiates/opioids completley in about a month and won't have to go on a maintenance program which will make it the first time in about 3 years.
 
hey NAKED, why do yo think it would be impossible to detox down from 40 mgs??i take it when you detoxed from 80 to 40 mgs, that it wasnt too enjoyable???also, is your methadone clinics staff nice and helpful ??im sure they would taper you slowly if need be????
 
Skin-popping buprenorphine?

I physically can't IV anything (I have a really bad technique), and don't want to snort anything, so is it particularly unsafe to subcutaneously inject a solution of buprenorphine?

Also, where in the UK can I buy micron filters?
 
NO NO NO!!!!!! Do not do this. Period.

You will end up with an abscess and that ain't pretty. When crushing up a pill it will contain lots of binders and crap other than the actual drug itself. SOme of these are not water soluble meaning that they are suspended particles. These can get caught in your muscle and cause a whole load of the body's defensives to go into action. Puss will build up and up around the dirt until it'll show as a nice lump that you could squeeze to get a dollop of pus come oozing out.

nice ey?


Please forget all about skin popping subutex.
 
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