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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 2

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MDMA for me starts to kick in 10 mins and takes full effects by the 30-40 min mark. Im always sceptical if it takes longer than that unless I had a massive meal beforehand or the pills are extremely well pressed with solid binders n fillers.
 
Sustanon said:
MDMA for me starts to kick in 10 mins and takes full effects by the 30-40 min mark. Im always sceptical if it takes longer than that unless I had a massive meal beforehand or the pills are extremely well pressed with solid binders n fillers.
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Usually takes me a good hour for MDMA to kick in and about 90 mins to peak.
 
Captain Brewster said:
I know that DXM and MDMA are not good to take together, but having trouble finding what type of dose would be harmful.

I'm curious if taking DXM as a potentiator for codeine the next day after consuming MDMA is safe?
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Potentially any dose. its not a matter of it potentiating the other and causing unconsciousness or overdose like a benzo + opiate combo, but rather the combination of the two leading to serotonin syndrome.

As someone who has suffered serotonin syndrome by stupidly combining a pill that was probably DXM with SSRIs (which act in a similiar fashion to MDMA), it is not something that you want to go through. it can be deadly.

I would give it quite a few days before you dose the MDMA if you have used DXM recently. its better to be on the safe side of things
 
I was curious because I wasent thinking saturday morn, I'd only slept about an hour from a night on medium MDMA pills and shrooms.
Anyway, dosed some dxm for codiene potentiating. Freaked out a bit because my nod was intense, jumped out of my seat because it felt like I was going to stop breathing when I fell asleep. But at the same time it was my biggest dose, and I combined it with pst aswell.
 
Biscuit said:
That sounds an awful lot like the good quality 6-APB. Be interesting to have a Simons result on it. 6-APB takes 1.5 hours to come up, whereas a cap of MDMA, unless there was something with the cap that made it dissolve extra slowly, should not.
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mmm interesting i know prices should not be mentioned but it was alot less then what mdma should be, now i know it was tested but not in-front of me in-front of a mate and it came up purple to dark blue, with fizzing and smoke. now it feels like mdma but it dusnt at the same time it feels more cruise and 3 of us all said the same thing? hmmm might need to send it off to ecstasy data for a test but its $120 i dont really wanna spend and i have another cap to test with some green powder in it. hmmmm mayb i should but ur able to sleep on it and everything no dirty come down its pretty good..


Also theres no real come up its like u realise ur smashed u dont feel it coming on? altho mdma has this same effect on me so not sure if that makes any difference. im pretty sure its mdma but you never know i guess
 
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Captain Brewster said:
I was curious because I wasent thinking saturday morn, I'd only slept about an hour from a night on medium MDMA pills and shrooms.
Anyway, dosed some dxm for codiene potentiating. Freaked out a bit because my nod was intense, jumped out of my seat because it felt like I was going to stop breathing when I fell asleep. But at the same time it was my biggest dose, and I combined it with pst aswell.
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Ah Ok. yeah that doesn't sound like serotonin syndrome, rather you just been really high;)

serotonin syndrome is more profusely sweating, high anxiety and paranoia, high body temp and heart rate.
 
^yeah, didn't think it was that, it was just the first time I was genuinely worried on opiates, ended up getting off the couch and going for a walk with the dog. I think it has to do with how big a Friday night I had, don't usually do them these days.

Cheers.
 
psytaco said:
Ah Ok. yeah that doesn't sound like serotonin syndrome, rather you just been really high;)

serotonin syndrome is more profusely sweating, high anxiety and paranoia, high body temp and heart rate.
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At the very very lower end anyway.
 
Captain Brewster said:
I know that DXM and MDMA are not good to take together, but having trouble finding what type of dose would be harmful.

I'm curious if taking DXM as a potentiator for codeine the next day after consuming MDMA is safe?
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you wwill be fine its's only risky when your at full peak or still rollling hard (when theres lots of sertonon flooding ur brain) i myself have dosed codeine and dxm as a potentiaor for codeine the same night i've rolled and have been %100 fine............your doing it the next day so i would say ur perfectly safe :) as long as you dont take both of em at the same time you'll be fine PLUR
 
junkie skumbag said:
you wwill be fine its's only risky when your at full peak or still rollling hard (when theres lots of sertonon flooding ur brain) i myself have dosed codeine and dxm as a potentiaor for codeine the same night i've rolled and have been %100 fine............your doing it the next day so i would say ur perfectly safe :) as long as you dont take both of em at the same time you'll be fine PLUR
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Are you 100% sure about this? Where did you read that info about being perfectly safe?

When I got Serotonin Syndrome I took substance #1 36 hours before substance #2. I was in intensive care for 2 weeks. They called my folks in to say goodbye and all.

Don't mess around with this stuff guys. Don't combine them full stop. It's not fun.
 
Verybuffed said:
Are you 100% sure about this? Where did you read that info about being perfectly safe?

When I got Serotonin Syndrome I took substance #1 36 hours before substance #2. I was in intensive care for 2 weeks. They called my folks in to say goodbye and all.

Don't mess around with this stuff guys. Don't combine them full stop. It's not fun.
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i've asked the same thing in this very thread (or was it the 1st one??) :) susstnon will back me up on this one as im sure he was one of the people who answerd me when i asked.....rember there only using a very small ammmount of dxm for potentiation (30ml or so of liquid MAX) its not like there downing a full bottle and i am also speaking from expirence i've done it many times :) i know all the risks about SS they will be fine dosing a small ammount of dxm the day after rolling :)
 
junkie skumbag said:
i've asked the same thing in this very thread (or was it the 1st one??) :) susstnon will back me up on this one as im sure he was one of the people who answerd me when i asked.....rember there only using a very small ammmount of dxm for potentiation (30ml or so of liquid MAX) its not like there downing a full bottle and i am also speaking from expirence i've done it many times :) i know all the risks about SS they will be fine dosing a small ammount of dxm the day after rolling :)
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It's dangerous advice. You don't know what is in a persons body or what kind of physical shape they are in.
Best to play it safe and avoid any kind of SS combo. We can't advise any different here anyway.
 
I have to agree with Verybuffed here. Junkie, I agree that the risk of taking 10-20 ml of dxm the day after using mdma is probably low - but we can't say for certain that it wont cause negative effects, as like Verybuffed said, we don't know the particulars of this person, their health and so on, nor do we know the dosage of mdma they've taken, not to mention that although psilocybin isn't indicated with serotonin syndrome, it does affect serontonin, so it may also interact in some way in this case. Also, saying 'its's only risky when your at full peak or still rollling hard' is very subjective - people could intepret this in different ways. Mdma has a half life of 6-10 hours - its impossible for anyone to pinpoint the exact point that its effect has diminished such that mixing dxm is guaranteed to be safe. Finally, DXM and mdma are both metabolised by CYP-2D6 - meaning that if ingested when the other is in your system, the metabolism of both is affected and slowed down.

Also, do keep in mind that just because you've done it and haven't had any ill effects does not mean its safe. There are so many different factors that come into play, which is why anecdotal evidence should never hold too much weight. Likewise, just because someone has said something on BL doesn't mean its true. Bluelight should be one part of your research - although we do our best to promote HR here, BL is made up of all sorts of people with varying levels of experience, expertise and knowledge - it's not wise for anyone to take something they read here as absolute gospel. I think just seeing here how you've taken some previous comments on BL as fact really demonstrates why we have to be so careful to be cautious here on BL. Anyone can read a post - and we have many more guests than registered posters reading these boards - and see a post like that and take it as absolute 100% fact, which could be dangerous if they're not very educated on drugs or don't have the experience to understand exactly what you mean. It's always best to tread on the side of caution here <3
 
Verybuffed what substances did you take that gave you such a bad reaction? Seems unusual that you didn't state what you had taken.

But I totally agree that saying something is 100% safe is a very bad idea Junkie. Cannabis being a prime example is one of the safest drugs but you certainly wouldn't tell someone it's 100% safe.
 
just sayin thats not what i got told when i asked in the mdma thread i thin even mr blonde agreed if memory serves me right.i know we are on the side of harm reduction and i should of explained the risks involved with SS but speaking from MY experience's there has never been any problems.if im right SS only occurs when theres high levels of serotonin in brain and the day after use of mdma there isnt massive amounts of serotonin flooding the brain.... GUESTS: please remember every thing u read on here you should take with a grain of salt and do a lil more research than just read a couple of posts :)

PLUR
 
Thanks for the info everyone, taken today and yesterday off work, now I remember why I don't do flippers anymore.

Got a massive head pressure on my left side. Used to do md a lot a few years back until I developed these head 'pressures'.
They never really went away, and I don't know if it's directly from E or just what goes with it (loss of a nights sleep, too much drinking, not eating properly).

But anyway ive got it today and it's more intense then it has ever been for couple of years.

That's why I love opiates, kills that head pressure.
 
I've unapproved a lot of posts here. Honestly, I'm appalled at the behaviour at some members here, who should absolutely know better.

If someone decides not to divulge personal information, that is entirely within their rights, and it's rude and childish to get upset because of this.
 
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