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The MDPV discussion thread comes to Australia !

Couldnt be bothered reading throught this thread but quite sad to see how how many people abuse the f*ck out of these research chemicals. Ive had experiences with most of them like many people here including MDVP but that shit to me feels quite toxic. Anything that makes you feel like that can't be good to use long term. They havnt done enough long term studies on these substances. Research chems are meant to be for "Researching" not abusing the hell out of them. Really curious to see what they say about it in 10-20 years time when enough research has gone into it along with many other popular RC's.
Are you suggesting that "that shit to me feels quite toxic" is an intelligent statement, based on some sort of research? Please. Research the pyrovalerone compounds. Research the history of MDPV use. You do not know a single thing having used it once or twice and have little ground to comment at all, beyond maybe posting a trip report.

P.S. if u research the way dopamine works in the human brain, you'll learn something about why "many people abuse the f*ck out of these research chemicals" and maybe instead of it being "sad" to u, u will learn something. What's sad here is encountering comments like "it's sad", instead of intelligent comments. But I figure maybe U can't be bothered to do any research, what with not being bothered to read the thread even. **Stay away from research chemicals, please**.
 
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Are you suggesting that "that shit to me feels quite toxic" is an intelligent statement, based on some sort of research? Please. Research the pyrovalerone compounds. Research the history of MDPV use. You do not know a single thing having used it once or twice and have little ground to comment at all, beyond maybe posting a trip report.

P.S. if u research the way dopamine works in the human brain, you'll learn something about why "many people abuse the f*ck out of these research chemicals" and maybe instead of it being "sad" to u, u will learn something. What's sad here is encountering comments like "it's sad", instead of intelligent comments. But I figure maybe U can't be bothered to do any research, what with not being bothered to read the thread even. **Stay away from research chemicals, please**.


Errmm, just out of curiosity did u look into your little crystal ball and it told you how many times I have actually used it? Or perhaps you personally know me? Not sure where u got that from. Ive known/used and studied about Research Chemicals long before a number of people even knew what the fucking thing was, many many years ago mate. I lived in that country where it was fucking manufactured and my best mate owned (still owns a RC company).Thats besides the point anyway but MDVP has been around for some time now but not long enough to know its long term side effects.

What I meant is if it feels toxic to me personally than I have a right to believe it cant be good for me. Thats my opinion. Ur trying to tell me to research Dopamine and to learn why people abuse it. Are you for fucking real? LOL Sad as in meaning abusing something without knowing its long term side effects or sad for because you couldnt give a shit about your health, I dont know you so Im not sure which reason. If you take cannabis for instance, people have been using that for thousands of years and we are familiar with its side effects. Some people choose to use it some people dont but atleast we are familiar with the pro's and cons of it. The reason why I dont read most of the thread is to avoid the very same posts as yours. Guinea pigs galore LOL that is SAD!
 
Potentially fatal MDPV to be banned in WA

Potentially fatal MDPV to be banned in WA

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DRUG BAN: A potentially deadly drug, similar to ecstasy, will become illegal in WA from the end of this week. Picture: Derek Moore Source: The Courier-Mail

A POTENTIALLY fatal psychoactive drug, MDPV, commonly used in ecstasy, will be banned in Western Australia from midnight on Friday.

MDPV, is structurally similar to MDMA and effects of the drug include anxiety, paranoia, acute cardiovascular and central nervous system toxicity.

MDPV, or methylenedioxypyrovalerone, will become an illicit substance when it is added to the Prohibited Substances section of the WA Poisons Act 1964.

Mental Health Minister Helen Morton said anyone caught with it could be charged with possession, selling, supplying or intent to sell or supply a prohibited drug.

“MDPV will become illegal in WA from 12:01am Saturday, February 11 and people have until then to safely dispose of this substance or any product containing this substance,” Mrs Morton said.

“With a high risk of drug-related abuse, tolerance and dependence, drugs like these can harm people’s health and mental health and that is why the State Government is serious about reducing the harm these dangerous drugs can cause.”

The Minister said MDPV had been a controlled substance in Australia since 2010 and from May 1, 2012 it will be banned Australia-wide by the Therapeutic Goods Administration.

“This is a positive step and I have always said a national response to the issue of emerging drugs is the most effective approach,” she said.

“But we can’t wait until then and we are taking action in WA now, to hopefully avoid the harm that some people in the Eastern States have already suffered because of this dangerous drug.”

In the past 12 months, the substance was detected in 25 drug samples tested at Perth's ChemCentre laboratory. WA Police last month warned MDPV was linked to an increase in overdoses and hospital admissions in the Eastern States, and raised concerns about a similar trend developing in Western Australia.

One man, aged 40, was believed to have died from an overdose in December 2011 in South Australia and a fatal overdose has been reported in Victoria.​

Lots of comments under the article too. (mostly shit ones lol)

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Agreed, the literacy levels in Perth must be pretty low. To think there are so many stupid and prejudiced people in Australia pisses me off!

Anyway, can't say I care that MDPV is being banned (to be honest I always thought it was illegal under analogue laws). One of the crappiest drugs I have tried.
 
^ hey not all perth folk are fucking stupid! a pretty high proportion - sure, but i think that could be said of much of this country.
it seems like a lot of the comments on corporate news websites are written by people that have a screw loose. either that or extremism really has become normalised? i really hope those sort of things aren't representative of 'average' australians, but i just don't know anymore.
i have to stop myself from reading them because they're just too depressing - just so creepy and full of hate.

i've never tried MDPV, but almost every trip report i've read has made me think it would be a bad idea, plus i'm not so interested in stimulants. i'm thankful to be able to learn from other people's experiences.
it is definitely very interesting that substances that presumably should already be illegal (under analogue legislation) continue to be listed specifically as 'prohibited substances' as well. most curious...
 
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MDPV will cause your ex's boyfriend to constantly believe your living in his front garden.

Well has happned to me. I love this shit but probly hate it more. Used to send it in mail to myself just so i could have a break!!!!

Oh and another mate has been stuck in 'APP' mode (so he calls it.) He opens up apps in his mind and speaks while doing it.

eg. 'opening close window app..' (closes window) 'close window app. shutdown' open operating system4.2, download 'Find weed app' (goes to score.

This is true... MDPV did this to him and he is stuck in it or has been acting very well for months. He opens 'apps' in his mind to function normally.... well sort of normally. I found him a nice place to stay.....
Be carefull
 
^+1

the comments are beyond depressing (loss of faith in humanity)

and sadly I don't think moving country will help.

this so called "war" on drugs is no war, actually just something to make the "masses" more content with the fact that drug use is not decreasing and recreational drugs are NEVER going away, no matter what. its the human condition.
 
I must say MDPV is now my drug of choice for the weekends (powdered, snuffed).
After a few not so nice experiences where I went too hard too quick I learnt fast to respect the potency of this chemical. After doing ALOT of my own research and strengthening myself emotionally and mentally I can now say I have a healthy relationship with the chem.
I don't overdo it (even when my brain keeps screaming more, more, more), I keep very hydrated, eat something and try to get some rest.

Anyway I actually have a couple of questions for any experienced MDPV users out there:

- Firstly the muscle spasms! Who else gets them and how can I stop them?
- Secondly any tips for the comedown? I try not to take anything else at this point, I figure the less chems I mix when my body is weak the better but is there anything anyone else finds helpful?

Ta
 
Not wrong. I tested the stuff I got last night, started out as "testing the waters" ended up getting pretty fucking buckled. Once you have a bit it's hard to stay away from it, especially if you've got a 4g bag sitting on the coffee table all night.

BF and I have this same problem, especially when we decide to "have a tiny bit" on a work night. We just try to look out for one another at all times, I think having someone you trust with you helps.

There wasn't really an answer in this thread I don't think...is MDPV legal in Australia or not?

Well all I know is the legal powder I buy OTC might contain MDPV but Im not 100% sure, alot of those mobs use things like DMAA or other aminos but just going off my experiences and what those on pure MDPV have said Im convinced it is.
If this is the case it must be legal or this company (like so many others....*cough KRONIC cough*) are finding someway to bypass the laws and sell the shit legally.

Insuffalated is good, i quite enjoyed it.

Although it made me very jittery and anxious after. It's great with weed, chop a mix and add MDPV, and smoke a cone.

Really clear high.

agreed, insuffalated in my op is the best way. Short, intense and makes cleaning the house so much fun!

ive had two little bumps already and feels good like last time when i just had a small bag of 50 mg. approx comsumed 20mg no thanks to my scales. Does anyone else feel like throwing up on this stuff?

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Only if I drink alcohol with it, if I stick to water Im fine.
 
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Hey everyone I have a few questions about MDPV. I am new to insufflation drugs so excuse me if any of my questions sound dumb.

1. What is the difference between real MDPV and the 'bath salt' kind. Obviously I don't want the bath salt lol

2. How do I measure out 50mg from a 500mg bag? How do I handle it to get it out, it's so small.
 
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MDPV is the devil!!

To those who have not tried it and have read all the comments on this thread and thinking to yourself "Pfft, heard it all before... i can handle anything. I thought these guys could handle their drugs and now I'm not too sure" well i was too until i tried it recently!

All the commotion on this forum about it being so evil just made me want to try it and put my mind to the test.

All it took was two doses and i saw its evil & addictive side! i felt the need to redose again, which i did knowing well that i did not need too and it would end in a horrific crash & it did & it sucked -.-

I consider myself a high powered mutant when it came to any other drug but MDPV scares me!! i am no longer bulllet proof!!

Having said this, it is a great stimulant if you do the right thing. Don't dose too high... doesn't make the high much better but makes the crash horrific leading to multiple redoses until you've had too much and end up on bluelight admitting defeat.

If your looking for a meth substitute because of addiction... DONT. I've gone on multiple day benders on meth and various other substances & experience zero crash... im just ready for a shower and a good nights sleep and i'll usually feel more refreshed than before the bender. Yet take a bit too much peevee and you feel like you've ran a marathon to benefit charity only to get beaten repeatedly at the end... you can fix this briefly by redosing but then the cycle begins again!

Dont mock it like i did, it will molest you and not in a good way!
 
Hey everyone I have a few questions about MDPV. I am new to insufflation drugs so excuse me if any of my questions sound dumb.

1. What is the difference between real MDPV and the 'bath salt' kind. Obviously I don't want the bath salt lol

2. How do I measure out 50mg from a 500mg bag? How do I handle it to get it out, it's so small.

If you really must eyeball and don't have scales then you could empty the contents of the 500mg baggie and divide it into ten roughly equal sized lines.

Often RC's are labelled as 'bath salts' so the manufacturer/distributor/retailer can claim that the product is not intended for human consumption. While some 'bath salts' products may be adulterated, the same can be said of drugs bought under the chemical name from RC companies.
 
Bath salts, plant feeders, plant enhancers. They will use just about any name so it wont be associated with human consumption.
 
i made the mistake of going into a really trashy "headshop" this evening. headshop is the wrong word - the staff and target demographic had a vibe of 'stupid' that was hard to ignore (but anyway - i digress...!) and i was horrified to see that they were selling grams of random powder behind the counter.

now i've always thought the lies told to kids about "herbal" research chem pills in other stores were bad enough- but this was just mindblowing to me.
i asked what it was - all they would tell me was that one powder was speedy, the other was sort of euphoric (nice one, thanks mate)
at least when you hear about this in the USA or europe, they seem to be selling the chemicals by their proper name....

and at least with the godawful "legal party pills", they are sort of sold in a dosage range. at least it's easy to determine, easy to instruct. the guy in the shop can say "just take one" or whatever, but the irresponsible nature of selling vials of absolutely random chemicals by the gram in vials just seems negligent and exploitative.

how is some kid without milligram scales - fiending on stimulants - ever going to take a responsible dose?
sounds like a recipe for psychosis as this thread would indicate.
i remember buying mushrooms and truffles and changa from a store on the sly between 4 and 7 years ago...and the dosages they sold were always pretty mild - you'd have had spend a heap of $$ to have a really heavy trip (in the case of the dried psilocybes, anyway).
to me that made sense, as it stopped people from wigging out and drawing heat to the business - or far far worse; doing themselves serious harm in the process. yes, those drugs were illegal, but in small doses - they're fucking SAFE.

i really hope that the 'speedy' one didn't contain MDPV or anything similar, but i have my suspicions. these kids have no idea what they're taking - a deliberate choice on the vendor's part - and some sleazy fuckers are getting rich off it.
it seems like these bastards are just going full-throttle in the money-making, in the knowledge that regulations inevitably tighten and they won't have this "legal drugs" market available to exploit forever. fucking soulless if you ask me. they know it is unsustainable, so they're not holding back, just being blatant as can be. when some kid wigs out and the media gets a hold of it, the industry will have seen it coming - i just sincerely hope that it blows up on them before anyone gets hurt or fucked up.

as much as i hate the regulation of drugs and paraphernalia - and the police intruding in people's lives (ok, i admit that i hate the cops altogether) i really hope the retail outlet in question faces some legal ramifications for this.
i mean - society looks down on meth dealers, but selling arbitrary powders (that are likely to be far more damaging and dangerous if it is peevee) is ok? i mean, if the law is going to pursue anything, i wish it would be this unlabelled, unresearched bullshit - it is being sold out in the open, for chrissakes. and the people buying it probably think it's safe and ok because it is in a slick looking package in an apparently legit shop.

the real sickening irony for me was that all the bongs they were selling were these fucking "oil pourer" things. and i've seen police with sniffer dogs randomly roaming the streets of perth lately too - looking for cannabis.
fuck that! such hypocrisy - such laziness.
the state doesn't care about people's wellbeing - the war on drugs is such a fucking sham.
the idiots who advocate prohibition have created this situation of people guzzling random chemicals for kicks - there are so many illegal drugs that are safe when taken responsibly.

sorry (again) about the rant, but this shit really drives me insane.
 
The government never cared about the publics well being. All they ever cared about is money. Doesnt surprise me one bit though, everyone out there wants to make a quick buck. More than half the people that are selling it have no clue whatsoever as to what they contain and the rest dont want to tell you so they can keep profiting from it. I promised myself im never touching RC's again after my bad experience with some of them. Id rather use something that has been around a long time so atleast we know what long term effects may be like. Everything is so puzzling to me. I mean alcohol and tobacco kills more people each year than all the illegal drugs combined, go figure!
 
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