The MDPV discussion thread comes to Australia !

[BobJillespie]

swim has had 2.5 grams in a period of 96 hours (snorted) 15 minute intervals whilst consuming copious amounts of weed and alcohol. On the 3rd night swim thought he was having a heart attack because his heart had a very inconstant beat (extremely high bpm to extremely low bpm). with a little reasurance from an uneducated user swim was fine. quick walk and cold shower did marvelous things to him. mdpv effects are simpily mind over matter. take into consideration that swim purchased his goods at 99.8% purity straight from <snip>. mdvp is most defiantly the superior drug and should be respected! (with high amounts of binging of coarse). after this particular night swim describes the come down as sickening as the holocaust. buuuut has not had a come down since that night, with more frequent use. BUMP IT UP!

It's effects aren't "mind over matter," at all. You may have calmed yourself down so you didn't have a panic attack, but the effects are real. Your body simply sorted itself out when you were experiencing palpitations, thankfully. And it will punish you for it down the track.

 

[footscrazy]

Nice post spacejunk - well put.

 

[Jakeperson]

Isn't it lucky how benign MDPV is of a drug? It took a few years for people to catch on with Meph but if peevee had that toxicity profile, the media would have had a field day over all the dead kids.

 

[spacejunk]

wow, i've never been abused in such a presumptuous way before. not worth responding to the taunts of some angry kid on the internet, but i did get a chuckle out of being called a lonely computer nerd or whatever. thanks for the giggle.

i love being informed, it keeps me out harm's way. my friends too
that's what this site is about, if you haven't noticed.

just goes to show that people who aren't prepared to do any research should stay the hell away from research chems, but in a perfect world it wouldn't have come to this. this might sound cold, but if you're dumb enough to take untested drugs without researching them a little, you've got it coming.

knowledge is power - if you feel threatened by that, educate yourself or go back to whatever it is you think "NORMAL PEOPLE" use the internet for. i'm not threatened by you, which is why i bothered responding to your various belligerent posts. your loss.

 

[spacejunk]

we have draconian drug laws (apparently) to protect people from the harms of drugs. MDPV may still be on the street, but i see this as being less likely to be the case as more and more bans come into effect globally. no easy source, no black market MDPV.

it's sad that people don't know what they're taking (same goes for synthetic cannabis blends) but that's what sites like bluelight are trying to help with - getting knowledge out there that would otherwise be suppressed. the information is here for anyone who wants to read it.
any suggestion that bluelight is some elitist geek community is absurd. how can we help people that won't help themselves?

i never said anyone deserves anything - just that if you're going to take a shonky dealer's word for the safety of something, you're playing a fool's game. it sucks that dealers are unethical enough to sell potent research chemicals alongside traditional black market drugs, but it's up to every individual to make his or her own choices.
caveat emptor - buyer beware.
the ban, in time, probably will stop this isue - with this particular chem anyway. but there are plenty more where that came from, which is why this is not a single issue forum, and why the information battle is a constant one.
there are many types of harms to be minimised, and lots of knowledge to be shared.

i reckon that on the whole we're an empathetic bunch, until you start coming on all aggro like you're not getting the attention you feel you're entitled to, with a chip on your shoulder about authority.
but once again, not bluelight's loss.

 

[BobJillespie]

we have draconian drug laws (apparently) to protect people from the harms of drugs. MDPV may still be on the street, but i see this as being less likely to be the case as more and more bans come into effect globally. no easy source, no black market MDPV.

it's sad that people don't know what they're taking (same goes for synthetic cannabis blends) but that's what sites like bluelight are trying to help with - getting knowledge out there that would otherwise be suppressed. the information is here for anyone who wants to read it.
any suggestion that bluelight is some elitist geek community is absurd. how can we help people that won't help themselves?

i never said anyone deserves anything - just that if you're going to take a shonky dealer's word for the safety of something, you're playing a fool's game. it sucks that dealers are unethical enough to sell potent research chemicals alongside traditional black market drugs, but it's up to every individual to make his or her own choices.
caveat emptor - buyer beware.
the ban, in time, probably will stop this isue - with this particular chem anyway. but there are plenty more where that came from, which is why this is not a single issue forum, and why the information battle is a constant one.
there are many types of harms to be minimised, and lots of knowledge to be shared.

i reckon that on the whole we're an empathetic bunch, until you start coming on all aggro like you're not getting the attention you feel you're entitled to, with a chip on your shoulder about authority.
but once again, not bluelight's loss.

You're right and I agree 100% with you. But to be fair his comment about socioeconomically disadvantaged users not having access to computers and I would add endemic under education of the lower classes and their high relative drug use, puts them at a disadvantage they don't realise. And his point flies in the face of your comment that people deserve their misfortune for not taking responsibility for what they ingest. You're right, but it's flawed reasoning. But it would be unwise to overstate it too. The computer thing is moot when nearly everyone poor or rich has an iPhone and instant access to all info.

It's too bad he went off, I think he had a lot of interesting and prescient ideas and opinions.

 

[Busty St Clare]

If he thinks Bluelight is elitist now he would shit his kmart bought undies if he had seen it 10 years ago

Like Bob said almost everyone now days has an iPhone and every day more and more free wifi spots appear in most cities. There is no excuse for any one to not take any new drug slowly and carefully until they are familiar with it's effects. Any drug has the potential for harm, the newer RC's of course have the disadvantage of very little experience from the drug taking community as a whole. One of the biggest problems for me nowadays are dealers selling cheap RC's as Mdxx or any number of different names without the consumer being aware of it's dangers.

trexman there is no point slagging off here about "real world experience" because you will find that the target of your rant probably has been there, done that and has got a faded t shirt in their cupboard to remind them. As space junk alluded to drugs aren't the problem (nor blue light), irresponsible drug use is. Plenty of ill inform users get into trouble with tried and tested drugs such as heroin, lsd and even cannabis. Knowledge is power but there are plenty of people who despite knowing better will still get themselves into trouble. Rather than bag a valuable resource like blue light I don't know why you don't direct your energy towards your friends who obviously need more guidance than many others.

"Be the change" as some grumpy old count often preachers.

 

[Captain Brewster]

This guy.

 

[Busty St Clare]

not another moderator with no idea, u obviously extremely short on wit "busty st clare", u more of a dimwit i feel. Whats the shit my kmart undies mean, maybe u need your head read because that made no sense, why would u presume i wear kmart undies, and then shit them non the less? U r obviously a strange person?? Everuyone has an iphone do they? wotta loada shit!! the particular demographic (desperate junky) I was talking about would never own an iphone (well maybe only for 20 minutes before they swap it for gear), I'm glad the "target of my rants" has a "faded t-shirt" to remind him he's been there done that, it shows how outa touch with reality he is then. Most importantly however HOW DARE YOU TELL ME TO DIRECT MY ENERGIES TO MY FRIENDS who obviously need more guidance than many others. I have done more than you would imagine to help my mates with their problems i've taken them into my house to get them clean, i take them to rehab, drug therapy groups, visit them in jail, and always getting them back on track. That was a grossly offensive comment to make about something you know nothing about and goes to show what a cockroach u r!!

If you gunna take down my abusive quotes and suspend me then why do you leave up the ones that are abusive of me? So its ok for me to be abused but not for me to defend myself because I'm not a suckhole on the inner circle, this whole boards is about as much about free speach as the Chinese media, nobody allowed to speak out against the dictators or they get ganged up on by a buch of parrots or yes men in authority, the average reader agreed with what i said but werent able to speak up, cos they just get censored. Atleast show enough respect to remove the quotes that abused me like space junk calling me a troll etc and show that u have some credibility.

What is this "real world" experience that the rest of us here do not know about? Having junkie and criminal mates suddenly makes you the authority here on drug use? You assume a lot of things busting in here and accusing members of being ignorant or failing to respect their vast knowledge. Believe it or not there are members here that actually invented and were pioneers of using many of these research chemicals. You would be hard pressed to find any one with more experience than many blue lighters. Junky criminal friends are a dime a dozen, responsible recreational drug users are golden.

MDPV, like any other drug needs to be respected. Personally I think it is a shit drug, but I have known plenty of people who have used it and not ended up in rehab or the looney bin. As cliche as it is drugs aren't the danger, irresponsible drug use is. The sad reality is some people will snort, inject, smoke or plug up their arse pretty much any thing if they think they can catch a buzz. They will be just as likely to have a problem with alcohol or cannabis as they would with an unknown RC. Rather than screaming that all drugs are bad, here at blue light we take the more passive approach that if you are to use a drug, use it wisely. We find this is far more effective in harm reduction than a large stuffed giraffe shaking his finger at you.

 

[spacejunk]

^ this.
listen, trexman - you can say what you like about the bluelight moderators, they volunteer their time and effort to make this place run smoothly and keep it above board. if you'd rather a more anarchic drug forum, there are plenty out there. they're usually full of daft misinformation (that nobody bothers to correct or question) or shills for various online drug vendors or scam sites.

the rules that apply here are for good reason, and the moderators enforce them. that's how it works. bluelight is one of the best forums around for this very reason. if someone posts utter bullshit, someone will come along and say "no, that's not right".

as for your abuse - well, it was abusive. that's why it was removed.
my "abuse" in response - was calm and avoided name-calling and insults. that's the difference.

if you want to accuse me of being a sycophant, that's up to you. i like being a part of this 'online community' and like to see it run the way it should. bluelight is a great source of information, and the 'rules' attempt to keep it this way.

every now and then someone turns up and acts in an attention-seeking manner, and it is best for everyone here if they are warned about it before it gets out hand. childish/abusive/unreasonable posters can very quickly unravel every useful thread in the place, and it serves in the interest of the forum and harm reduction that these people cool it.

now, i'm not really seeking to justify this to you, because you don't seem to really be taking in what i say anyway - but if you want to be a contributing member here, i suggest you stop being so defensive and just read through the boards a bit. get an idea of what is generally ok and what isn't.
you seem to think that you deserve a lot of respect from people here, but how are we supposed to know you or your history? we don't so maybe if you think you're entitled to such high regard, you could prove it by making some valid contribution.
rants about how evil and bad certain drugs are don't really count. nor do overly defensive comments (see above) stating how deeply offended you are at our disrespect. real-world experience doesn't count for shit on here unless you can be calm and rational when you make a post. some people love to come on here and boast about their drug-world credentials, but it's not really that impressive.
as busty says, there are some genuinely intelligent people on bluelight who have contributed vast amounts to the human understanding of psychoactive drugs.
you can be part of this, or you can be an abusive johnny-come-lately who gets banned. the choice is yours, really.

PS i tried MDPV yesterday, and i liked it.

 

[drug_mentor]

not another moderator with no idea, u obviously extremely short on wit "busty st clare", u more of a dimwit i feel. Whats the shit my kmart undies mean, maybe u need your head read because that made no sense, why would u presume i wear kmart undies, and then shit them non the less? U r obviously a strange person?? Everuyone has an iphone do they? wotta loada shit!! the particular demographic (desperate junky) I was talking about would never own an iphone (well maybe only for 20 minutes before they swap it for gear), I'm glad the "target of my rants" has a "faded t-shirt" to remind him he's been there done that, it shows how outa touch with reality he is then. Most importantly however HOW DARE YOU TELL ME TO DIRECT MY ENERGIES TO MY FRIENDS who obviously need more guidance than many others. I have done more than you would imagine to help my mates with their problems i've taken them into my house to get them clean, i take them to rehab, drug therapy groups, visit them in jail, and always getting them back on track. That was a grossly offensive comment to make about something you know nothing about and goes to show what a cockroach u r!!

If you gunna take down my abusive quotes and suspend me then why do you leave up the ones that are abusive of me? So its ok for me to be abused but not for me to defend myself because I'm not a suckhole on the inner circle, this whole boards is about as much about free speach as the Chinese media, nobody allowed to speak out against the dictators or they get ganged up on by a buch of parrots or yes men in authority, the average reader agreed with what i said but werent able to speak up, cos they just get censored. Atleast show enough respect to remove the quotes that abused me like space junk calling me a troll etc and show that u have some credibility.

Why don't you go take a look in the mirror, you started going off on spacejunk, someone you know nothing about, I guess by your own logic that makes you a cockroach? Spacejunk never even called you a troll, he said you have a choice to be a troll or not, after taking time to explain why your anti MDPV attitude wasn't really going to accomplish much. That neither warrants removal from this thread or the tirade of abuse you hurled at him.

You talk about being shown respect yet you show none yourself. Keep on with this abusive shit and you really aren't going to last around here.

 

[Sustanon]

You forgot to mention to add bloody paragraphs to the posts because its unreadable and hurts your eyes, most of the time I don't even read those posts. Would be cool if these threads wouldn't be derailed. All of us users should stivck together not lash out each other, these forums arnt used for being internet warriors behind the monitor.

 

[poledriver]

^ check out krokodil on YouTube if you think MDPV is the worst drug out there.

I would put a link up but I don't know how. Too smashed to suss it out.

Hey man, you just copy and past the link-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsUH8llvTZo

Krokodil: Russia's Deadliest Drug (NSFW)

Or you can use that blue and green pic of a world with the chain link in it above on ur dashboard thing (on the right of the smiley face) and enter the url in the box and press ok, then in the 2nd section when its on the page you can name it whatever you like, like -

Youtube Link

 

[Captain Brewster]

^ Cheers.

 

[flapban]

Well,
I've just ran out.

Really really disappointing to me because I'm a functional user, I was using it to control my appetite. I have a stressful job and suffer extreme social anxiety, MDPV made it easier to do my job and also stopped my eating a bag of chips, packet of bikkies, 2 family blocks of choccy and some donuts after work.

Franticly looking around for other appetite suppressing drugs but itsnot what people really care about,they view it as a negative.

FYI - I cycle 10km to work and back and also spend a hour in the gym. This means nothing if just being around people causes stress, because you work out, get stressed, eat bad food, cycle blah blah.

Anyway... MDPV.... it can be a purely functional drug and i'VE TRIED eTHCATHINONE and it has no appetite suppression. Next up is A-PVP. Don't think I'm allowed to ask for suggestions even if its for what I consider a legit cause
've heard ICE is good for it but I don't want to impact my work/life negatively

 

[cassandragemini]

Hey man, you just copy and past the link-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsUH8llvTZo


Or you can use that blue and green pic of a world with the chain link in it above on ur dashboard thing (on the right of the smiley face) and enter the url in the box and press ok, then in the 2nd section when its on the page you can name it whatever you like, like -

Youtube Link

And check out scopolamine, that stuff sounds mental. There's a doco on it by the same guys that do one on krokodil, it makes pv look like a glass of granny pash.

Any drug can be a nightmare if it's abused, I nearly ruined myself on heroin but have used pv many times without any trouble, some people fuck themselves up on caffeinated drinks and would say the exact same thing you are. What happened to you and you friends really sucks, if mdpv wasnt around they might not have ended up the way they but it doesn't mean its mr pv's fault, you can say the same about anything - i have a draw full of knives in the kitchen and could go skin my cat if I felt like it, it doesn't mean I'm going to and if i did it doesn't make knives bad.

As ernie luckman would say - ' don't blame the drugs man'.

 

[mister]

Had a fairly scary episode with ye olde peevee yesterday.
My girlfriend was working nights so I had the house to myself, I decided to close the blinds and have a naughty day of perve powder and porn.

I filled up my smoking vessel with less than I usually do due to the fact I only have a bit of peevee left and it was mid morning, I inhaled and had the worst experience Ive had with this compound. I started to buzz all over my body, sweat and have the worst stomach discomfort. I tried to keep calm and usually Im a bit of a horse when it comes to drugs but this really scared me, I quickly closed down the porn sites and looked up heart attacks and to my horror all the symptoms were very similar to my own which made me panic a bit.

I had my mates number and 000 on speed dial at the ready, I cleaned up my history and cleaned everything up because the last thing I want is my missus finding me dead with my pants around my ankles, sat in front of my computer with her moisturiser and tissues with porn playing.

After an hour the symptoms all went away.

Today because I am fucking stupid I thought Id give a small bit a go, no problems at all so Im not sure what happened yesterday although I promised myself a full check up with the doctors.

MDPV IS fairly benign but it can make you feel fucking terrible at times and I have a love-hate relationship with it.

My little dalliance with it is over again for a few months.......until I get that craving again

 

[morpher001]

Never tried mdpv, but having read this thread I really do wonder why anyone bothers to give it the 'responsible use' lip service.
All at once the benifits are lesser and downsides greater than many very similar alternatives. If anything ever deserved prohibition this filth would qualify.
Such a dark thread, even the most positive of reports basically conclude 'it made me horny, and as far as I can tell, it hasn't fucked me up. Yet.'
I feel a notion that a responsible, credible authority in harm reduction should be actively advocating for scheduling.

 

[poledriver]

New designer drug detected on the Central Coast

New South Wales Police have confirmed the Central Coast's first known case of the controversial new designer drug, known as 'bath salts'.

The synthetic drug can lead to psychosis, paranoia and has been linked to several deaths in the United Kingdom, as well as a cannibal attack in the United States earlier this year.

A spokesman from Gosford police says a 24 year old Woy Woy man was sedated and taken to Gosford Hospital two weeks ago, after suffering hallucinations and becoming violent.

A friend told officers he had taken 'bath salts' from an unknown source.

Detective Acting Superintendent Jason Smith from the NSW Drug Squad says it is hard to track the prevalence of the drug.

"It is difficult to know how big the market is and one of the factors is there is a large online market and that is difficult to assess," he said.

"We certainly have not seen the prevalence of these substances to a degree that they have in countries such as the US and the UK, where there have been some real issues."

"Do not be fooled by the colourful packaging or claims that the substance is a legal high."

"They are produced in backyard laboratories in often less than hygienic circumstances and again, you are taking a serious gamble on your health by taking something when you do not know what it contains or how it is produced."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-25/crazy-drug/4154086

 

[spacejunk]

Backyard laboratories?
Nice try, mister plod.