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Frankie.w.24 said:
In fact I have 8 grams ordered that will be here tomorrow. I'm sure it'll go beret this time around because I've learned a valuable experience.
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That's what we all say ;)

One thing I've learnt about stims, is once you've crossed the threshold into insanity, it takes less and less to get there again.
 
I also went bat shit crazy when I was on my 6 month PeeVee binge. No other stim has even come close to sending me as bonkers as this one has. It's amazing how low you start dosing at first and then how much you can do in 1 hour with a tolerance. It took me a year to undo the mental damage that this shit caused me.

I now have great self control when I'm around MDPV and the same goes for many other drugs now days. One of the best lessons I have ever learned...
 
I liked low dose MDPV as a work thing, but in higher doses for going out I didn't quite like it as much. If I ever got it again it would be to use as a stimulant for during the day.

PsiloSubNaut said:
I now have great self control when I'm around MDPV and the same goes for many other drugs now days. One of the best lessons I have ever learned...
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That's a lesson I'm in the middle of learning. :\
 
Frankie.w.24 said:
Hello, this is my first post on this site. I thought I'd share my experiences with this drug with you. I first started using Mdpv in November last year. I used it almost daily for 7 months before taking a break. I went from using a gram every three days to using a gram a day (all with my girlfriend of course). This was 99.97% pure mdpv. I love it. I am a speed freak and I love it more than meth. One night I had been up for about 6 days straight. I hade a bunch of glass heat railers. I was trying to fix then with a torch. I was so out of it that I kept busting them and They would magically grow back. I didn't think this was the least bit odd and in fact I thought it was amazing. I ended up passing out or something and I was shocked to wake finding them all busted. I couldn't believe this because I plainly saw then grow back together lol. After several months of using I would start hearing little taps and peck on the side of my house. Another month and I was hearing noises and thuds on the side of my house. It progressed in this fashion until I heard and saw people trying to break in my house, steel my computers and iPod, and trying to murder me. I knew my girlfriend was in on this and was the ring leader. This went on for months. I was permanently scared for my life, I might add I haven't yet stopes mdpv at this time. I would run around outside all through the knight with knives and hatchets calling them out and calling them pussys. I swore they must of been on some king off speed because they was always there, day and night, for weeks on end. Or I thought they was taking shifts. My last night of using I went to take a shower. As soon as I got in, they was trying to get me. I jumped out of the shower, put on a pair of pants that was extremely to large, and started running to the woods. It was dark out, I had no shows on, no shirt, no underwear, lost my glasses, and I had no belt so my pants was constantly falling down. I was running for my life. I was so scared I pissed a little (but you'd never tell because of all the creeks I ran through) and I couldn't stop throwing up. The cops ended up picking me up in the woods because my mom called 911 so they was out looking for me. See I'm on probation so I can't use any drugs so my mom and I said I was bi-polar and off my meds, witch was both true. But I've been off my meds for years. They took me to the hospital and sent me to a psych ward for a week and let me out. It took months before the paranoia stoped. I have been off of it for 5 months. I love the stuff. In fact I have 8 grams ordered that will be here tomorrow. I'm sure it'll go beret this time around because I've learned a valuable experience. I just want to point out that I started snorting 15 mg at a time at the beginning, and by the end I was snorting and heat railing lines of (no lie, I developed an extremely high tolerance) 100 mg. I would also like to say that I've had three strokes on this stuff, and they hurt. This is my favorite drug in the world and I don't plane on sopping using it. If your gonna use it please be very careful. 15 mg is enough to get u tweaked until you build a tolerance to it. I was a heavy daily user and to me it still seemed that the tolerance built up pretty slowly. As for other Stims, I still get geeked on meth, lisdexamfetamine, and Ritalin. So no change there. Just be careful, and have fun.
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This is absolute insanity. I only ever binge for a weekend at a time on it and the worst that has happened to me so far are hallucinations in my preriferal vision that disappear when I focus on them, and audible hallucinations that don't go away typically until the drug wears off. If I am alone and there is background noise, no matter what it always just sounds liek a crowd of people talking, and I recognize a lot of teh voices "talking" It's frighteningly realistic. fucking trip out
 
So true, so true. The auditory sense part of this drug is the most fucked up thing about it. You can't tell what's real or and what's not anymore, after a certain point, and add that to its effect on your adrenaline system, well, IT'S A QUITE A RIDE, pretty standard really.:D
 
Hello guys first I'd like to say that I'm from America, almost on the east cost. So my time is different here. But guys I enjoy your mdpv thread better than any other one.


Anyway I know this guy and hey has a pet monkey. Hey says that when he puts mdpv (and I mean load it down) it a tobacco pipe, the kind that is metal and has a lid that screws on with a hole in the center, it is just like crack. Or so he says. But he claims that when you snort it it's like meth. But I'd be very careful with this either way. His monkey has never shot mdpv but he has shot bath salts labeled as Eclipse. He said it was pretty good. But he says that shooting up mdpv is just a matter of time before you die.
 
Frankie.w.24 said:
Hello, this is my first post on this site. I thought I'd share my experiences with this drug with you. I first started using Mdpv in November last year. I used it almost daily for 7 months before taking a break. I went from using a gram every three days to using a gram a day (all with my girlfriend of course). This was 99.97% pure mdpv. I love it. I am a speed freak and I love it more than meth. One night I had been up for about 6 days straight. I hade a bunch of glass heat railers. I was trying to fix then with a torch. I was so out of it that I kept busting them and They would magically grow back. I didn't think this was the least bit odd and in fact I thought it was amazing. I ended up passing out or something and I was shocked to wake finding them all busted. I couldn't believe this because I plainly saw then grow back together lol. After several months of using I would start hearing little taps and peck on the side of my house. Another month and I was hearing noises and thuds on the side of my house. It progressed in this fashion until I heard and saw people trying to break in my house, steel my computers and iPod, and trying to murder me. I knew my girlfriend was in on this and was the ring leader. This went on for months. I was permanently scared for my life, I might add I haven't yet stopes mdpv at this time. I would run around outside all through the knight with knives and hatchets calling them out and calling them pussys. I swore they must of been on some king off speed because they was always there, day and night, for weeks on end. Or I thought they was taking shifts. My last night of using I went to take a shower. As soon as I got in, they was trying to get me. I jumped out of the shower, put on a pair of pants that was extremely to large, and started running to the woods. It was dark out, I had no shows on, no shirt, no underwear, lost my glasses, and I had no belt so my pants was constantly falling down. I was running for my life. I was so scared I pissed a little (but you'd never tell because of all the creeks I ran through) and I couldn't stop throwing up. The cops ended up picking me up in the woods because my mom called 911 so they was out looking for me. See I'm on probation so I can't use any drugs so my mom and I said I was bi-polar and off my meds, witch was both true. But I've been off my meds for years. They took me to the hospital and sent me to a psych ward for a week and let me out. It took months before the paranoia stoped. I have been off of it for 5 months. I love the stuff. In fact I have 8 grams ordered that will be here tomorrow. I'm sure it'll go beret this time around because I've learned a valuable experience. I just want to point out that I started snorting 15 mg at a time at the beginning, and by the end I was snorting and heat railing lines of (no lie, I developed an extremely high tolerance) 100 mg. I would also like to say that I've had three strokes on this stuff, and they hurt. This is my favorite drug in the world and I don't plane on sopping using it. If your gonna use it please be very careful. 15 mg is enough to get u tweaked until you build a tolerance to it. I was a heavy daily user and to me it still seemed that the tolerance built up pretty slowly. As for other Stims, I still get geeked on meth, lisdexamfetamine, and Ritalin. So no change there. Just be careful, and have fun.
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For fucks sake, i can hardly believe that i am still reading of these ridiculous situations people so easily put themselves into with PV!

I think there is one solid outcome of this story...PV is definitely NOT for you mate, and you should substitute for something a little more subtle, no matter how much you like it. There is just no excuse for this behavior from pretty much any substance, let alone from PV, which lets face it, is not that strong and should not mess with your head that much, unless there are substantial previous mental issues, especially if there was such a "tolerance" built up also.

And 7 months-1 year of "almost" daily use is not that much. Once you get into multiple years of DAILY use with ZERO psychotic episodes, whilst maintaining an active and clear head, then you should be confident to go ahead using for your own, and others safety.

There are actually many legitimate uses for PV, that can be very beneficial to those who can use it positively, it can genuinely change lives for the better. Whilst at the same time being able to use it for recreation if one wishes to. No questions asked, it does have a number of negatives, but if you can intelligently deal with them and embrace the positives, many rewards can be had that are basically unobtainable elsewhere.

This is why some substances get a bad rep and get banned so quickly, without any research done as to the legitimate pharmacological uses that could change lives for certain individuals.

End rant.
 
^ Not that strong? Mdpv is a very potent stimulant. I was a very experienced meth user and I found the negative effects from pv far beyond those caused from even the longest ice binge.

I don't condone Frankie's behaviour either but there's no use being judgemental. It's not as simple as 'intelligently' dealing with the symptoms. You could say that about any drug and if it were that easy, you wouldn't get 10% of the human population being addicted to something at some point in their lives. It'd be great if everyone could do that, but addiction's a bitch and does not correlate to a lack of intelligence.
 
Frankie.w.24 said:
I would also like to say that I've had three strokes on this stuff, and they hurt.
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They hurt!? My God, brother, you are lucky that one stroke didn't permanently incapacitate you!

Let that be a warning to people getting into stimulants; push too hard and you'll pay for it.
 
^ I hope he meant masturbation... I've known people before and after a single stroke and the difference in their quality of life is completely different. Very sad, especially for those who are already older and have other medical conditions.
 
footscrazy said:
^ Not that strong? Mdpv is a very potent stimulant. I was a very experienced meth user and I found the negative effects from pv far beyond those caused from even the longest ice binge.

I don't condone Frankie's behaviour either but there's no use being judgemental. It's not as simple as 'intelligently' dealing with the symptoms. You could say that about any drug and if it were that easy, you wouldn't get 10% of the human population being addicted to something at some point in their lives. It'd be great if everyone could do that, but addiction's a bitch and does not correlate to a lack of intelligence.
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It's not that strong when you build a tolerance or do it every/other day. Gets to the point of nearly being inactive really.

And i wasn't speaking so much about the addiction side, although there definitely is one, but the mental side including psychotic episodes and doing ridiculous things when there is no justification for it. If some research is done, coupled with a bit of logical interpretation of situations and surroundings, these issues simply do NOT and will NOT happen from a mere stimulant. Hearing voices or mild hallucinations (from sleep deprivation) can be overlooked/dealt with easily in the right state of mind.
 
mb01 said:
these issues simply do NOT and will NOT happen from a mere stimulant.
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Are you sure about that? Psychosis has most definitely been associated with use of stimulants. The rate of incidence obviously depends on the stimulant in question, how much has been ingested and whether there are previous mental health issues but use of strong, dopamine level altering stimulants like MDPV and methamphetamine can definitely cause psychological issues.

mb01 said:
It's not that strong when you build a tolerance or do it every/other day. Gets to the point of nearly being inactive really.
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You could say that about any substance, but in the context of your post it seemed as though you were saying MDPV as a drug is not that strong.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Are you sure about that? Psychosis has most definitely been associated with use of stimulants. The rate of incidence obviously depends on the stimulant in question, how much has been ingested and whether there are previous mental health issues but use of strong, dopamine level altering stimulants like MDPV and methamphetamine can definitely cause psychological issues.
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Fwiw, MDPV is definitely capable of producing psychosis. Anything that boosts dopamine for prolonged periods is capable of it... it's not rocket science or even anything remarkable...
 
Couldnt be bothered reading throught this thread but quite sad to see how how many people abuse the f*ck out of these research chemicals. Ive had experiences with most of them like many people here including MDVP but that shit to me feels quite toxic. Anything that makes you feel like that can't be good to use long term. They havnt done enough long term studies on these substances. Research chems are meant to be for "Researching" not abusing the hell out of them. Really curious to see what they say about it in 10-20 years time when enough research has gone into it along with many other popular RC's.
 
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