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MDA is a great drug for your long raves/ festivals. Lasts longer, has a a massive energy surge and if the hallucinations are bearable you can really enjoy it. Great for laser and lights shows. The epitome of ecstasy is 75mg of MDA and 75mg of MDMA, the best feeling bar fucking none!

If you really need that energy rush gumming a bit of speed with your MDMA can produce a really great roll too. When capping my own gear I like to add a dash of speed for charging or if I want a messy night, a bit of ketamine.
 
^ Personalyl I reccomend against oral meth when taking ecstasy (or in general) as the awakeness far outlasts the high. For me personally I like to insufflate meth when I used pills, always was a much more controllable stimulation than just necking pills that had a dash of speed in them, for me personally trying to sleep on an MDMA comedown while being kept awake with a non euphoric dose of meth is extremely unpleasant and not something that I endeavour to experience again.
 
ay peeps i got a quieten the molly im getting atm makes me quite sleepy infact I've fallen asleep coming up on a 150mg dose the person i get it off said to maybe add a little bit of caffeine to my first dose (i normally take 2 150mg lots 2nd dose doesn't make me feel tired at all :\) how much caffeine should i add to 150mg of relatively pure molly just to feel a VERY MILD stimulation just enough so i don't fall asleep again.
I also have a bit of methylone i reckon a bit of methylone and mdma would be a great buzz. what risks are involved with combining methylone and mdma?Also what dosage would you guys think would be good/safe?
 
^ i have only fallen asleep once coming up on a roll years ago, woke up gurning like a mofo, good times. I'm glad mdma is back around the place and we all need to share the PLUR it brings!
 
MDMA by itself can really knock you down, I found on my last roll that I had to keep sitting and lying down instead of being up and dancing. I might try and add an energy drink though and see how that goes... meth and MDMA can be a euphoric combo but don't want to fry your brain. Also, as mentioned before it adds legs to the insomnia. :)
 
drug_FUCKED said:
adding meth to mdma is blasphemy.
add a more speedy md* not meth
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so speed + mdma = ok but meth + mdma = shit?

and rc + mdma = risky

i find jsut laying down on molly is just the greatest, people complain there is no energy but it's because its a pure roll. it is not stimulating on it's own only combined with caffeine and uppers. hence pills but aussies seem to be out for the $ and dodgy it all up on us all so fuck pills. [snip]
 
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I never added large amounts of meth; back in the day either there was a little bit of meth already in the tablet that did the trick, or I added just a small amount for a little kick. Definitely not good for the old receptors up there though.
 
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I did also find that mdma had the greatest potential of any drug I've abused to fuck up my mental state! Weekly use for a few years really made me go a bit (a lot) wacky.
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I had this experience also - MDMA is freaking amazing, but it can fuck you up if you (ab)use it too much in high doses. Lose the magic, continually up your dose in a rampant chasing of the magic and then suddenly blurgh. I called it quits after four-five years '98 - '03, found myself on EXTREMELY high doses at parties with strange delusions and "mystical powers" of telepathy and.... I'm not even going to go into it, it's too funny - but I will say it wasn't enjoyable in the end 8( 8o

Anyway, question to those that suffered this affliction (note: I was a sometimes more than weekend user) - how is it these days?

Lovely experience, but don't over do it.
 
^ Mystical powers? Telepathy? Delusions? Sounds like a good acid trip to me. :D

I am careful not to overdo it, once a month at most and on advice of phase_dancer I am looking into getting tryptophan as a pre- and post- load supplement.
 
After my period of once or twice weekly use of mdma for 3 years I lost my marbles and took a year off mdma and all stims, I felt like I completely recovered from that, if anything, I reckon that period of introspection actually helped me improve some things (anxiety, shyness in particular) to better than they'd been before I'd even started drugs.

After that year I never really got back into regular use of mdma, but when I did use it I was getting great effects off it like usual. But, during one session with copius amounts of meth and mdma I got serotonin syndrome, and since that date I've never got the same effects of mdma. It's like I can get all the effects of mdma but none of the pleasure, which is strange to say the least. I still have had good mdma highs since then, but it seems my threshold to go into a weird, introspective, almost paranoid mindtstate is much lower. That would have been 3 or 4 years ago now.
 
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It's like most GOOD things. Respect it, don't over do it and you can use it for a long time with very little down side.

I have used MDMA for 15 years and have only ever over-done it once.

Even in the mid 90s and up to mid 2000s at my worst I wouldn't have had more than 20 in one year.

Some people are/were necking 5 -10 a weekend, that was crazy when it actually was MDMA and damn stupid now that pills are full of meth/RCs/Pipes. No amount of 5-htp / tryptophan, benzos, piracetam etc etc is going to sort that mess out.

As most of us know: Drink a good amount of water, only a mild amount of alcohol (mainly beer for best effect) take plenty of antioxidants and magnesium before during and after, stay off of the amphets/RCs whilst rolling, force yourself to eat a little if it has been a long -late night, sleep after a session even if it is hard. Supplement with piracetam and tryptophan/5HTP and have a decent break between rolls.

Ideally, 4 weeks minimum!
 
To me MDMA is like the best bits of every other drug rolled into one....slightly trippy like LSD....confidence like cocaine........stoned like ganga or smack......and needing to dance like speed, the best bits of every popular drug mutated into the one perfect drug

NOTHING comes close
 
^^Cheers for the responses guys and gals - I turned to tryptamines - psilocybin and in the last few years DMT - with A LOT (a hell of a lot) more respect and after time I levelled out. It was a long road, but I agree, an enlightening one. I learned a lot about myself during those years after such a long love (then hate) relationship with the love drug.

This kind of ties in with the psychological/physical addiction debate - if you're addicted to chemically feeling good (really fucking good), it can definitely cause problems.

PLUR for old (possibly new) times sake <3

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To me MDMA is like the best bits of every other drug rolled into one....slightly trippy like LSD....confidence like cocaine........stoned like ganga or smack......and needing to dance like speed, the best bits of every popular drug mutated into the one perfect drug

NOTHING comes close
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It is the King of recreational substances. :D

Definitely my favorite, and when I use it properly and with respect (most of the time) I find that it gives me long term benefits in terms of mood and outlook on life. Truly a miraculous substance.
 
Mr Blonde said:
It is the King of recreational substances. :D

Definitely my favorite, and when I use it properly and with respect (most of the time) I find that it gives me long term benefits in terms of mood and outlook on life. Truly a miraculous substance.
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Not to mention the great friendships/relationships made on this substance :p God i wish mdma was legal and alcohol wasn't there would be a whole lot less violence!
 
^ Definitely. :D

Maybe one day we will get there... perhaps though when we are all old and sitting at the local RSL ordering 120mg of MDMA and reminiscing about the crazy days of the past when it was illegal. ;)
 
Yeah i ended up lossing the magic back in 2004 was having 8 good quality pills a night with no magic. then took a break then tried again some time later the magic was still gone. Then i started racetams and nootropics and boom!!! the magic was back in a big way..
As for telepathy on mdma i never seen any chance of that but high dose tripping its rare but it has happened and is real. Sounds crazy most will be thinking that when reading this
but this one time a few mates all sat down and starting trying to prove it by writing numbers and shit down. We could communicate without saying a word, others would come in and start speaking.
We would be like speaking... so primitive

As for loosing the magic it happens to the best of us even Mrs Shulgin but hopefully others can learn from these mistakes.
1 a month sounds like a good idea, having stuff for comedowns like 5-htp, or an SSRI can really help with comedown.
With my my comedowns sometimes out do the trip itself.
My perfect MD comedown:
Before and after B-vit, vit c, mg all the vits
before take some baclofen (never done this before but now i have some might as well try it see if it keeps temp down)
Nitrous during or straight after for as long as i can afford.
start with GBL either on or shortly after md
either 5-htp or SSRI once comedown completely from md
Weed if i am smoking
Once i come down off the gbl take some repreve, barbs and benzos to go to see the sandman
time i wake up 12+hours later i feel fine. I try to save some nangs for the next day as well
Might have some opiates the next day or some more GBL. That night i would use Lyrica to go to sleep with my repreve.
I say fuck comedowns there are for people who are out of drugs which aint me.
Those words from fear and loathing really stuck with me:
Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can
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I actually used to take a suitcase of drugs and shit with my on trips which at times even included diethyl ether. but now days i need most of the space just for nangs
 
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