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yeah that looks like the stuff I got also, except mine was not in such large chunks. I also got finer white powder also which seemed to do the trick also. But its good too see the scene coming back in Aus....but you need to head over to the US....
 
well from what I have been told finding MD there is easy, and the quality is fantastic...but you seem to be getting the goods, as are a few people, hopefully it floods Melb soon
 
Sustanon said:
So ur trying to tell me that everyone who somewhat agrees with me is wrong? Wow u are so shallow minded its unbelievable, really thought u grew out of this by now. If it had no scent then how the fuck would dogs smell it?
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That is some fantastic logic and circular reasoning there Sustanon: Dogs can smell MDMA, therefore MDMA has a smell; if MDMA has a smell than humans must be able to smell it - Wow!!! You are aware of the differences between the olfactory systems of dogs v. humans, right???

qweasdzxc said:
does the scent have much factor on purity or how good the product is?
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The scent of the substance has absolutely nothing to do with the purity or quality of the product. The smell of safrole can be added post production - to fool testers and punters - it can also be because of a sloppy synth or even batch contamination. It should also be noted there is a difference between the smell of safrole and antheole. The former being used in the production of MDMA and which smells like root beer; with the latter used in the production of PMA which smells like aniseed/licorice.
 
thestudent14 said:
I'm pretty sure whilst pure MDMA should be white, it can be nearly as pure and have a different/brownish colour.
I can't remember the exact reason for this during synthesis, but I'm sure it's still the goods, especially cause you said it fizzed and smoked up =D
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It may be from the difference in professional and clandestine lab and quality of catalysts/precursor chemicals. This can also attributed the smell.
but yes pure should be clear/whiteish crystals, like meth (in colour and transparency)

kroniic said:
You're right dude, I inspected the bag today, whilst there is a majority of tan looking crystals, there is a few darker ones. The weird thing is, when I broke the dark ones, they became a tan coloured. Also when seperated, the crystals look so much lighter.

*confused*

Anyone got any idea?
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could be darker because the crystals dont let light through, i think this could be compared to looking at water in the ocean, a small amount may look clear, but looking at the ocean it can look green/blue
 
Any Molly I ever saw had a slight aniseed smell to it and I have definately seen quality shit on a couple of occassions. I wouldn't go so far as to say that if it has no smell it ain't the goods, because I am fairly certain that pure MDMA has no scent, but I don't see why you need to go jumpiing down peoples throats Lil? You have been around here long enough to know better and it was totally uncalled for. In terms of talking about a general mild scent to molly I don't think Sustanons statement was too far off the mark.

Sure you can be a smart arse about how the synth must of been *slightly* sloppy if there is ANY smell whatsoever, but we aren't buying quality controlled shit here and the fact is that illicit drugs that possess some characteristic of impurity is the overhwelming majority of what you are going to find in the market out there. I don't see how acknowledging this is wrong or irresponsible? He never said go out and buy anything and everything that smells like aniseed, just that in his experience even high quality MDMA had an aniseed smell and that statement does not contradict my own personal experience so I don't quite get what your problem is.

I had to remove a couple posts talking about personal shit, I am sure those who made them know what I am talkin about. Regardless of some things thats gone on there are matters that are inappropriate for the open board.
 
I see a lot of posts like LilAngels around bluelight these days.

This is a discussion and every ones experiences are valid. This used to be a place where you could ask questions and seek advice without being judged.
 
drug_mentor said:
Any Molly I ever saw had a slight aniseed smell to it and I have definately seen quality shit on a couple of occassions. I wouldn't go so far as to say that if it has no smell it ain't the goods, because I am fairly certain that pure MDMA has no scent, but I don't see why you need to go jumpiing down peoples throats Lil? You have been around here long enough to know better and it was totally uncalled for. In terms of talking about a general mild scent to molly I don't think Sustanons statement was too far off the mark.
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It's pretty far off the mark IMHO. Firstly, the smell of safrole and antheole are very distinct and providing advice that the smell of aniseed is a good sign is potentially dangerous for obvious reasons. Secondly, even if Sustanon has incorrectly referred to Safrole as having an aniseed type smell then it should be noted that safrole is a carcinogen. Either way, to state that 'If Molly doesnt smell like Aniseed/Licorious I wouldnt consider going anywhere near it' just screams either a lack of personal care or knowledge surrounding the substance at hand - neither being good HR practice.

drug_mentor said:
Sure you can be a smart arse about how the synth must of been *slightly* sloppy if there is ANY smell whatsoever, but we aren't buying quality controlled shit here and the fact is that illicit drugs that possess some characteristic of impurity is the overhwelming majority of what you are going to find in the market out there. I don't see how acknowledging this is wrong or irresponsible? He never said go out and buy anything and everything that smells like aniseed, just that in his experience even high quality MDMA had an aniseed smell and that statement does not contradict my own personal experience so I don't quite get what your problem is.
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I'm pretty sure stating 'If Molly doesnt smell like Aniseed/Licorious I wouldnt consider going anywhere near it' is indicating a thumbs up for a less than desirable product. It doesn't appear that any HR consideration has been given to the statement, nor has it been indicated that there could be an issue with a substance that had an odour like aniseed (ie, Possible antheole synth to PMA or PMMA).

So, I guess my problem is that throw away comments are taken as gospel further diluting the intelligence of not only this board, but the recreational drug taking community. It would have been nice to see some people contradict the statement and provide good HR advice and education surrounding this issue. Otherwise, people will actually believe that good MDMA should have a discerning odour or even smell like aniseed - which is very much incorrect - and potentially dangerous.

Jakeperson said:
I see a lot of posts like LilAngels around bluelight these days.

This is a discussion and every ones experiences are valid. This used to be a place where you could ask questions and seek advice without being judged.
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This also used to be a place where factual and referenced discussion took place in the interests of education and Harm Reduction. Discussion based on subjective experience without real reference is what leads to further misinformation. This does nothing to change the wider public's view of recreational drug use and those who participate in such actions.
 
You mean anethole lil?

I would guess the problem is as much distinguishing between the smell of anethole and safrole as anything. I doubt many people have had the two side by side to really be able to distinguish which is which. The smell of safrole is distinct and I think most people are familiar with it - perhaps aniseed is just how they've learnt to describe it, though sarsaparilla would be better to think of, if people are familiar with it.

That being said it doesn't make it right to say mdma has to smell like aniseed, and as you said it's an important distinction for many reasons. I don't think people are purposely trying to be misleading by saying it smells like aniseed though, so describing the difference without judegment is probably the best way to go about things.

As for the carcinogenic properties of safrole, funnily enough D_M and I were just discussing that today. As far as I knew the risks were fairly small, but I don't have much knowledge on the subject.
 
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lil angel15 said:
So, I guess my problem is that throw away comments are taken as gospel further diluting the intelligence of not only this board, but the recreational drug taking community. It would have been nice to see some people contradict the statement and provide good HR advice and education surrounding this issue. Otherwise, people will actually believe that good MDMA should have a discerning odour or even smell like aniseed - which is very much incorrect - and potentially dangerous.
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We did see some one contradict it, you. Now if you can just try being polite when you do it.
 
footscrazy said:
You mean anethole lil?
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Yes, yes I do. Dyslexia at its finest. ;)<3

footscrazy said:
As for the carcinogenic properties of safrole, funnily enough D_M and I were just discussing that today. As far as I knew the risks were fairly small, but I don't have much knowledge on the subject.
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P_D would be the best person to answer this question. My understanding is the carcinogenic properties are considerably lower than a lot of other compounds, however, they're present none the less. Especially if they're added in unknown quantities to fool testers or unsuspecting punters.
 
Lil, he never advised anyone he was talking about his own perspective and I just didn't see why it was neccessary to jump down huis throat with insults the way you did. He never said use this as the single way to identify molly and from his past posts it is obvious he is a big advocate of testing your substances and other HR practises. Even if you felt he was wrong there was no need to jump on him the way you did, I just thought someone who was a senior staff member for so long would of known better.

Who is dumb enough to come onto bluelight to educate themselves about drugs, comes into the middle of a thread and reads an offhand remark and takes this shit as gospel? I feel its a bit argumentative to try and say that an offhand remark like that in the context of a whole thread has any real potential to be damaging, and truthfully, you could single out just about any poster for having done it at some point in time. You just seem to have a real chip on your shoulder when it comes to Sustanon (as well as a few other posters) that I have noticed.

You know I respect you and all the time and effort you have put into this site Lil, but I just feel in this case your initial outburst was a little uncalled for and honestly biased.
 
I apologise if I've come across as rude or abrasive DM. There is no excuse for attacking a member for their mistakes and all it does in the long run is create unneeded work for staff.

The positive being it has created some discussion surrounding the subject. ;)

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