Droppersneck
Bluelighter
lol when did I try to weasel out of it?? I think its a solid bet and always have. You know he is polling well in MN now? He is fixing to MAGA
for completeness, that was actually my idea and i take responsibility for it.
i was disappointed that the idea i had for a light-hearted, fun lounge idea turned into the mean-spirited brawl that it did but perhaps i was naive to expect anything else.
alasdair
I didn't come up with the ban poll idea. It was voted on at the staff level, then it was voted on at the member level, and then it was finally implemented through votes in as fair a manner as possible. It was not my idea and democracy was put in effect at every level of its implementation. As for SF, I am cool with SF. She even posted in this thread that she is cool with our back and forths. But that's fine, I don't expect you to know how we get along in there, and you clearly do not. I get along well privately, and publicly, with plenty of people I rip into. To give you some examples... waylost, jiggly, cosmic, hell, even droppersneck at the beginning when all I did was try to make fun of him. The only people that seem to take me seriously in there is you, spacejunk, and zeph. And you're all three people I try my best to avoid unless I'm attacked first...similar to bambi i dont necessarily want a whole new set of rules and i also believe that admin are on the same page with this. what they do want is for the lounge to operate to a standard that is welcoming to everyone and that the staff team are united and unbiased in enforcing the rules. its pretty simple really?
i feel this needs to be mentioned and only to get you to further understand why were currently in this situation but as a staff member you are supposed to set an example to the fellow members of the standard that is acceptable and unfortunately while you chose to host "games" where unwarranted bans went down and repeatedly bully certain members (eg. stay faded) and in ways that crossed the boundaries of the rules you failed in your role. never in bluelight history has a moderator been enabled to host popularity contests where members vote to see another that is abiding by the rules result in a one month ban. i dont know why you thought that sort of thing could go on forever and not impact the flow of a happy forum? and each morning referring to your bowel movements as a members name, can you not see how this encourages a pack mentality of bullying and members thinking "well if he does it and he's our boss, it must be ok"? this is not the example of a good moderator. there have been multitudes of moderators able to host games or events such as the color wars, facey pasty, comic books, trading cards etc. that everyone was fairly able to participate in and enjoy. this is what is being asked for right now, a unity of community where moderators set a precedent of whats expected socially and in accordance to the blua and lounge guidelines. if you can't or refuse to come to the party on this phro, maybe reddit really is your best option?
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for completeness, that was actually my idea and i take responsibility for it.
i was disappointed that the idea i had for a light-hearted, fun lounge idea turned into the mean-spirited brawl that it did but perhaps i was naive to expect anything else.
alasdair
I didn't come up with the ban poll idea. It was voted on at the staff level, then it was voted on at the member level, and then it was finally implemented through votes in as fair a manner as possible. It was not my idea and democracy was put in effect at every level of its implementation. As for SF, I am cool with SF. She even posted in this thread that she is cool with our back and forths. But that's fine, I don't expect you to know how we get along in there, and you clearly do not. I get along well privately, and publicly, with plenty of people I rip into. To give you some examples... waylost, jiggly, cosmic, hell, even droppersneck at the beginning when all I did was try to make fun of him. The only people that seem to take me seriously in there is you, spacejunk, and zeph. And you're all three people I try my best to avoid unless I'm attacked first...
I didn't say you three guys are the only people to think that the current state of TL needs improvement. I said you three are the main people that take me seriously in there and apparently have an axe to grind.zeph, spacejunk and myself are not the only people on the board that believe the current state of the lounge is in need of improvement. this isn't an us against them battle and while you continue to portray that progress wont be made.
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zeph, spacejunk and myself are not the only people on the board that believe the current state of the lounge is in need of improvement. this isn't an us against them battle and while you continue to portray that progress wont be made.
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the suggestion of two forums is kindred to the "redlight" social experiment. a group of loungers that were banned for repeatedly breaking the rules decided to do something similar to reddit and encouraged bluelighters to join them with the promise of there being no rules, no bannings, no boundaries etc. tldr; noone followed them and those who dropped by the site did so to troll it enraging the creators and seeing it quickly die. this concept is not a new one and is not the sole instance of individuals attempting to divide the community based on personal desire. what is being asked for here is input on how to improve what we already have to suit the needs of the entire community, not handfuls of people with separate visions.
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What a shitfight of a thread.
Here is a solution. Make a more positive welcoming place where people other than "the lounge regulars" feel they can post. What role does the lounge in its current form fullfill in Bluelights agenda? I have no idea.
If you want to just troll and throw shit at each other then you have your reddit site. Fuck off and use it.
No one is forcing you to use or be a part of BL.
Grabs popcorn.
I think proving who's right and who's is wrong is most important here. If we did have two forums we could solve all issues. The new forum would be a cool place for people that never contributed anything of comedic value to tl to chill and have a relaxed time chit chatting.
there's no reason that, for now, this thread can't fulfill that purpose.
alasdair
because it's part of a larger community and it has little value to that greater community as a deliberately and aggressively non-inclusive playground for a small number of participants.But why does the Lounge need to be a "positive and welcoming place"?
i need to read and digest the feedback here to ensure it gets the attention it deserves. as i indicated in my announcement, next steps would likely include:Have we discussed this enough to get admin feedback? I appreciate the amount of constructive (and non constructive) criticism in here but without a real plan of action this all falls to the wayside.
Alasdairm, what is the future of the lounge? I think you've given members and non-members plenty time to discuss this.