the lounge discussion v. september 2016

[alasdairm]

If you think there is no room for a social forum on bluelight then get rid of it.

if you think that's what i think then you simply haven't been listening to a word i say.

alasdair

 

[One Thousand Words]

How prolific would beagle boy and Jesus have been if they hadn't been banned?

2 in the pink was in jail.. Way to kick a guy when he is down

I beginning to see a horrifying pattern of a statistical nerd not grasping real world economics.

 

[Bomboclat]

I see your point but those members (sans noodle) have only been active in the lounge over the year or two, tops. Having a high post count doesn't mean you know how a forum works, it just means you talk a lot.

I also did not say they do not have a right to participate. The issue is with poor management. How can someone oversee the growth and longevity of something if they've historically never been a real part of it?

 

[alasdairm]

i'll happily give you two different names. but my point stands and it's supported by the facts.

alasdair

 

[One Thousand Words]

No you gave us three and they were all pretty poor examples

Actually arci is banned too

 

[alasdairm]

I see your point but those members (sans noodle) have only been active in the lounge over the year or two, tops. Having a high post count doesn't mean you know how a forum works, it just means you talk a lot.

i understand that. i am working with what i have and it demonstrates that some of the people who are being criticised for non-participation, participate more (quantitatively) than those doing the criticising.

no more. no less.

alasdair

 

[Bomboclat]

I reference my second point:

The issue is with poor management. How can someone oversee the growth and longevity of something if they've historically never been a real part of it?

 

[One Thousand Words]

Yet those same staff members banned a host of members, artificially distorting your data.

Run any reports on causes of hospitalisation of members with their drug of choice or are you too busy in the social threads to actually play proper management?

 

[alasdairm]

No you gave us three and they were all pretty poor examples

arci, pi, mikeoekim, two_in_the_pink and zephyr are all somewhat 'household name', prolific lounge regulars so they are perfectly good examples.

but you're just going to move the goalposts again and rubbish whatever i say so i'm going to move on.

alasdair

 

[One Thousand Words]

Arci is currently banned, 2 in the pink was in jail and PI posts a dozen times a year since her divorce (which by the way, her ex husband banned her from posting at all). Zephyr only recently rejoined after having a child and getting almost clean.

But if you were a regular you would know this

 

[anniegram]

>annie's a mod now

racism and classism in action. if you aren't part of the upper middle class pure aryan club no mod position for you. asians aren't minorities so they don't ccount

did you apply for mod along with me? I didn't know that.

 

[Noodle]

I have a lot of opinions about what I thought was great about the Lounge before I became bitter about the culture there.

I have been around longer than almost everyone involved in this discussion.

I stepped away from regular participation in The Lounge because I was a part of the problem. It was also a very negative and caustic diversion for me.

It wasn't always that way, and I really used to enjoy being a regular there.

I think this is going to be a good change overall, and it has been long overdue.

Everything changes, and we adapt to thrive, or thrash around like fish out of water and die.

Here is to hoping an open social forum with some simple rules that are consistently enforced makes for a more welcoming virtual space. A space that is truly welcoming to noobs, old timers, and staff alike.

 

[zephyr]

Jfc dopem.


It's a shame so many lounge regulars are so silent on all of this.

I reread phr's response and all I have to say is he seems to think tl is just about himself and a handful of his buddies.

It isnt.

Ive been a loungerat since my first account in 2004. Im more than happy to sling shit back at him when he decides to spam troll the same tired old insults Ive heard for years in any theead I participate in but yes its getting very boring to do so and im sure very boring to read the same shit stirring in every thread.

Loungers are no different to any other bluelighter. We are on the whole a decent fun bunch of people living our lives like anybody else and are worth getting to know by noobies or other forum regulars.

Yes there are a few idiots who have taken it upon themselves to be massive assholes and unfortunately one of the mods leads that pack and obviously wont change, cant see what he is doing is wrong and is not leading by example.

I dont like being grouped in with people like that group just because I post in the lounge. Its embarassing.

Lounge used to be inhabited by a lot of the staff members who used it to socialise together and with the members. How about encouraging that to happen?

 

[phr]

Space junk is like a meme. I've never heard him contribute anything other than negativity towards the lounge yet wants to belong so hard it pains him

Yeah, I already said that and he typed a long whiny post that didn't make sense but had two handful of quotes.

What if we had two or three threads where ANYTHING goes? The rest of the threads can be more strictly enforced. I'm suggesting making ttys be one of those, and also a "rant" thread, and bringing back the "sandy vagina" thread. Just a thought.

I've suggested that in the past, and it was shot down. TL as we recently knew it, where we can call something gay or call someone a Eurofag and not have it be homophobic or whatever, is over. You want to make a Consuela joke? Nope, not in TL. Enjoy your ban.

GL'ers are back in because TL being private, which apparently senior staffers thought was the case for over a year until they finally realized that it wasn't and hurriedly made it private, was just addressing the symptoms. The symptoms of what? The main issue anyone has with TL is the content being posted, and that content offending them. Now, the 10-15 people that make up 95+% of the posts in TL have no such issues, but they're not the ones calling the shots, are they?

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I swear to God, if they really wanted to test the theory that people don't care about TL's offensive content, they'd leave TL private as is and let us continue with the current rules/state of TL as it was 2 days ago. Then, they'd make another site wide public social forum, held to higher standards, and just do their thing in there. Then revisit that in half a year and let's see which is dead... See how many TL posters stuck to the private forum vs the new public ones... See how many new posters the public forum has... They won't do this, simply because it takes a double pair of tude sized TNW's to go head to head with the cesspool of offensive material that TL is. And because their new public higher standard forum would be dead. Hell, it pretty much already happened to the other regional social forums.

Wanna give this a go, alasdairm? What do you have to lose?

If the new public forum is more popular, shut TL down and/or merge them.

 

[One Thousand Words]

I got banned in Europe for calling a Toyota supra a rice burner

Apparently Asians eating rice is a racist stereotype.

Will this be the New Lounge?

Asking for a friend

 

[Owl Eyed]

jfc this thread blew up.

things are changing - it happens. something something lip service something something doublespeak.

 

[phr]

That is The New Lounge. If you think you can say rice burner in TNL you might as well log out and get lost, pal.

I eread phr's response andxall I have to say is he seems to think tl is just about himself and a handful of his biddies.

It isnt.

No, it's not about me and my buddies. It's about the 10-15 regular posters that post 95 plus percent of the posts. It's about everyone except the handful of people on senior staff that DON'T have a problem with offensive posts and TL as is. And those handful of senior staffers are not in the top posters. Alasdairm was talking about the exact numbers earlier, and considering how top heavy TL post counts are, those numbers are weaker than jiggly's gambling winnings. Number 70th in TL? Number 45? Come on, man. SKL was 33rd, and that was partly due to his heroin run when he was on here 24/7, I bet...

Also, get off my nuts. Even SF, who I've mercilessly teased a million times more than you for the past month doesn't take my shit seriously enough to be stuck up on me. Same goes for waylost, who I barraged with insults. Same goes for Cosmic giraffe... Same goes for Andy.

 

[Noodle]

I tend to agree with Zephyr on the quality of the most current Lounge.

It is a shame that it has devolved into some kind of virtual shit show over the past 3, maybe 5 years.

Has social media and the way people connect changed in that time? Sure. But! why is that a justification for letting the content spin into the toilet ad nauseam?

I feel like there is something bizarre about a small vocal group demanding their negative space be allowed to continue.

 

[zephyr]

Annie, Tude and BP are all good mods. They are sassy and funny. I read Annies post and Tude seems to feel the same way that their opinions dont matter.

They are being drowned out by their colleague unfortunately.

But honestly the other 3 mods are great. Their opinion does matter and for what its worth - I read pretty much every post they make and have a laugh.

I just wish they made more and didnt hold back.


Back in da day, the lounge mods at the time were the biggest postwhores statistically.

So post more you three! Entertain us with the funny!

 

[CosmicG]

I just wish Annie could learn to forgive and forget she hates me for reasons I can't even recall.
Curse her steel trap memory.