CosmicG
Bluelighter
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the lounge discussion v. september 2016
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dopemaster
Bluelight Crew
You lost me soon as you start making everything about politics and you sound fucking ignorant talking the way you do and politics is not light hearted, but damn serious stuff and there are threads for that talk, but in those threads you do not have license to personal attacks. I doubt you are in touch with today's youth and well neither am I other than I think they are too self obsessed, pretentious, way to dependent on technology that is rather antisocial like smart phones and self entitled li cry babies so I think it is going to take more than stand up comedy to fix that.
So you can only focus on one issue and seem to be obsessed with it and putting people in their place or something like that. You are not exactly in the place to judge people for not agreeing with your political views and quoting the GOP does not impress me. It is not the place, there is plenty of threads online for that type of discussion and even here on Bluelight but when you say the sight itself is too liberal for you, than maybe it is.
I never saw any political stuff past harm reduction, drug law reform, medical rights, abolishing draconian drug laws, discussion of alternative medicine, and insisting that people be treated with a good dose of PLUR. You signed up for it and being a fucking IV drug user or ex one as I do believe you are now it would seem that those would be things you would agree with or would be rather hypocritical not to but you seem to take the sight for granted and say you do not wish to improve it so much as try to discourage people you enjoy talking with to no longer post here.
I don't know what is going on in your personal life. but it doesn't give you the right to lash out with so much hatred, derail threads, tell people they are social leaches when they are just poor and working their way towards good health and employment. You gave me a ridiculous amount of shit for having legit medical problems and said I have a disorder I do not. Ok so as far as how you treat me and anyone who has needed government aid that is rather fucked up because I overcame agoraphobia completely and managed to go to school to learn skills that I now use in my line of work while dealing with the anxiety and chronic pain disorders I got.
You know I do not have apsergers and I said that in the last PM I sent you when you derailed a fucking RIP thread for the departed. You asked to post the pm and just made shit up. I just asked you to take out the part about the details of the deaths of my irl friends if you wished to post it but what you posted was lies, you spread lies, and for what exactly?
That is along the lines of jackassary, several BLUA infractions, and just kinda an asshole move. You do realize I work now, got off the needle, and guess what the taxes you don't pay shouldn't really fucking matter to anyone. As far as pell grants and any student aid that is the one "government handout" that actually increases tax revenue rather quickly and I do not see what is wrong with people wanting to have shelter, eat everyday, and get health insurance so they can be functional citizens.
I can only speak for myself here in terms of the letting people have the tools they need to put their life in order when they have circumstances beyond their control and their desire to work and be a contributing member to society, but I needed health insurance to be able to accomplish everything I have which is a few degrees and working my way towards full time employment in the field of work I love and honestly. I am working in art now, long story short, not glamorous but I like it and I really like it when what I do makes the clients happy but this isn't about me.
Could you maybe consider that it seems that you are trying to twist the site, the rules, and the lounge into your fucking thread and it seems rather intentional but I am going to give you the benifit of the doubt on this. The lounge is not "Discuss politics with Droppers and if you are not with him you are with the and terrorists and liberals."
There is nothing wrong with politely disagreeing with you and I do not make my politcal views known repeatedly and that doesn't mean I am a bad person or I do not stand up for what I believe in, it is just not the place for that type of thing. People don't have to be polite but if you want to disrespect the site as a whole maybe it isn't the place for you as you do seem rather frustrated about not finding some hardcore Republicans on a drug website as it is a very famous Republican named Ronald Reagan that got the States in the mess it is economically and with the police state.
You are not really that politically educated imho. You cannot force anyone to change their minds on some things and no one expects that of you so stop this ridiculous level of trollage or go to your land of milk and honey. You are way to self righteous for an unemployed junkie and you accusing so many others of that, like it is even your business, is hypocritical and is referred to as projection and an indicator of mental illness, that and arguing online because that shows that your emotional growth has been quite retarded and I am not taking a cheap shot (just using big words, sorry I know you hate that but I am using the accurate medical terms for this) as you show signs of a serious superiority complex and that is not a compliment or insult but I doubt you know what I mean so I am going to put this in layman terms here. So basically you have narcicist tendencies which are rooted in poor self esteem.
So basically you modus operandi in life seems to be getting online to insult other people to make yourself feel better about your own shortcomings and convince yourself that you are better than other people and that is just all kinds of fucking lame in my opinion and I do not think your mental illness should be rewarded with special treatment on a forum you frequent and yet insult. You are not a leader no matter how much you want to act like Donald Trump and whether or not he should and will or will not be Commander in Cheif of USA is not a lounge subject.
I think most people would like you to stop going off topic, calling people things they are not, disrespecting the site, the people who run it, and asking for special treatment after forcing mods to work overtime is just rank as fecal matter excreted from a bull's anus.
Seriously, if you hate the place so much you don't need to post in the thread in how to improve it. Make your own website and run it yourself. Go to Reddit and shitpost your heart away.
You sound a conspiracy theorist and went from someone I used to enjoy having here to someone who is fucking annoying, rude and ignorant. Also you have no right to say I have a rather stigmatized medical condition and saying I said it to you when you know it is a life. You know I have a copy of the PM I sent you and I could report you for quoting me on things I did not say when I gave you permission to post it minus the details of my deceashed irl ex-gf's death because that would not be fair to her or her family and is still a rather painful loss to me. It was fucked up of you to ask to post a PM just to type in whatever filled your weird MO. So acting like I said something and saying I said shit I did not is fucking lame and against the BLUA, I don't report on principle and think most reports should be made public like accidently spelling the N-bomb is hardly worth reporting and causes way more strife than the word itself and you are in the lil report button posse aka snitch squad, but you are also the biggest assholes on the sight.
Well, if this is a liberal brainwashing place then how long did it take the kool aid to where off for you here? You act like you hate drug users and have been working a steady 9 to 5 and constantly accuse people of being on the dole and anyone getting any government aid from healthcare to pell grants to be some sort of communists these days.
I know you don't work. Don't worry about how I know but you think I do not talk to any BL'rs outside of the site and this is information they volunteered and I said no fucking way to I want to go to Tennasse let alone visit this wanker.
You have no idea as to my medical care because you take heresy over my word and in my last pm to you I said I had anxiety and panic disorder and at one point it had gotten to agoraphobia which is real illness and you ask to post the pm and then just say that I said I have a disorder I do not which brings us back to aspergers syndrome (which I do not have) which is rather crippling and I hope no one who actually has it ever reads the nasty shit you say about people who have it. I did define it for you basically straight out of the DSM because I felt like you didn't understand the type of things you were saying and it is not funny to mock those poor souls, accuse people of having an illness they do not, or put such a crippling illness in such a negative light without realizing how much damage you are causing on a harm reduction website.
That makes people with the disorder look bad because people with aspergers would fucking kill themselves over not just how harsh you talk but over actual friendly joking. So you have no right to say I said something I did not. No right at all. Have you read any of the intro posts from the people with that disorder because it seems like a rather crippling thing for those people as they seem to respond poorly to constructive criticism they receive when they come here asking for help in SLR and TDS. I personally warned them not to post in The Lounge when I had that volunteer slot. You do people a great diservice by spreading misinformation and lies for self serving reasons on top of that.
Whenever someone disagrees with one bit of your MO and it really seems like your modus operandi are all you talk about and well I don't give a fuck about politics and it isn't because I was not always able to legally vote but you go there all the time quoting laws that you don't even understand and playing the "he said, she said" game which is fucking immature and not cool.
QFT
You blame everyone else. If you want to leave, fucking go, you are not beholden to this website, not that you know what the word beholden means but it means you don't owe anyone an explanation and really it is not wanted so much as for you to stfu and maybe stop going off topic on the "how and who is going to fix the damage done to the lounge by the likes of Dropper's" thread.
I know you are not that sensitive, but still all the same I didn't like what was going on here and this is a place people ask for input and as long as people are liking what I have to say and are liking my suggestions I will speak my piece. Damn you summed that up nicely in your last sentence so it is quite obvious you learned some things at community college and it is no more of an extension of high school than going to any other accredited learning instituion.
I hope you know that these people are jealous of you because they can't hold a candle to your accomplishments.
It is about common decency and common sense that is the issue. This is supposed to be a feedback thing for everyone as to get rid of shit posts and most of it is back and forth shit that shouldn't be going on in the first place and is not the "ban phro" or "demod or not to demod phro" thread even though it seems popular demand on that is high I personally think he just lost his way and we all do from time to time. I personally think the pressure of the position is a bit much for phro and for his own good he might want to re-assess things as I have seen people change for the worst as mods and be damn happy to give up their slot when it was just too much for them and well it is better for someone more even keel like Papasomni or Alladin to be doing these tasks but it is alot to ask of them as it is volunteer work so nothing against phro really.
I do think phro has not been himself lately and I chalk it up to him becoming a mod and hope he can look at that situation objectively and honestly at least to himself because he did try to help here but hasn't been able to keep things under control and with the state of things I don't know if we can blame him.
I didn't like seeing people trivializing your accomplishments in life and I am not being a white knight here, it is more about the fact that it is a classism issue and the hypersensitvity to homo/racial/sexists slurs didn't seem to be a huge issue as to the posters imho. I think what happened is with all the issues that divide of and highjacking threads into politics and saying so and so is this cuz of their line of work, where people go to school, and what people do for work especially from the few people that have never worked a day in their life.
I am done with my thoughts on the subject but will most likely pop in with a "QFT" or "that is a good idea!" if I see one. I would like to see the place improve and like Kytn said it has been the last 12 months so hardly anything is lost. As far as the good old days, well everyone says that about everything. We can make the lounge awesome if we just stop the bullshit and act as adults with a sense of humor and just stop kicking one another in the metaphorical nads here.
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Bomboclat
Bluelight Crew
Jfc dopem.
It's a shame so many lounge regulars are so silent on all of this.
It's a shame so many lounge regulars are so silent on all of this.
CosmicG
Bluelighter
What else is there to say that has not already been said? Just a bunch of finger pointing on in here.
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dopemaster
Bluelight Crew
Cosgirlraffe, there is one topic left and that is how can we make the lounge better than it was before it got worse and how we can get it back to good and keep it going great. You are one of the better posters so there is not much room for improvement on your part (that is a compliment).
I suppose there has been some finger pointing but I took accountability for my bullshit before I pointed out anyone else's bullshit.
Someone had to say something, so I did. I really meant everything I said and tried to take the high road and yeah I got pissed off at Dropper's coming here to shit post and troll. So he provoked a long overdue response and this is a place where I can call him on his lies and his bullshit.
We really do not need bullies and people that do harm and no good because their intentions are of a sinister nature.
I know it is a great deal I typed. This is not my usual shitposting and I am taking accountability for the part I play. I had a great deal to say to someone who has repeatedly harrassed, insulted, slandered me, and really helped turn the lounge to shit while not being held to the same rules as the rest of us and I could have reported him for so much stuff but I ain't a rat. Someone has to say something and I put a great deal of thought into what I said.
I think we all need to think about how we can make the lounge better if we want it back and we all played a part as to the state whether it was stirring up shit or feeding the trolls brewing it. Also it has gotten increasingly nastier and the people that just want to talk about stuff, make jokes, and take a break from serious matters are the ones that are hurting here and I like to think of myself along the lines and if the main person that caused the damage wants to chime in, I am going to tell him what I think of his actions.
I actually think Reddit will be a great place for Droppers and I do think he needs a change.
I personally think I need to think about the relevance of what I have to say and stop typing so fast. Also treat people nicer. Anyways I don't want to make another long post, so I won't.
I never said I was deep, I can be remarkably shallow, horizions incredibly narrow.... Jarvis Cocker quote
I suppose there has been some finger pointing but I took accountability for my bullshit before I pointed out anyone else's bullshit.
Someone had to say something, so I did. I really meant everything I said and tried to take the high road and yeah I got pissed off at Dropper's coming here to shit post and troll. So he provoked a long overdue response and this is a place where I can call him on his lies and his bullshit.
We really do not need bullies and people that do harm and no good because their intentions are of a sinister nature.
I know it is a great deal I typed. This is not my usual shitposting and I am taking accountability for the part I play. I had a great deal to say to someone who has repeatedly harrassed, insulted, slandered me, and really helped turn the lounge to shit while not being held to the same rules as the rest of us and I could have reported him for so much stuff but I ain't a rat. Someone has to say something and I put a great deal of thought into what I said.
I think we all need to think about how we can make the lounge better if we want it back and we all played a part as to the state whether it was stirring up shit or feeding the trolls brewing it. Also it has gotten increasingly nastier and the people that just want to talk about stuff, make jokes, and take a break from serious matters are the ones that are hurting here and I like to think of myself along the lines and if the main person that caused the damage wants to chime in, I am going to tell him what I think of his actions.
I actually think Reddit will be a great place for Droppers and I do think he needs a change.
I personally think I need to think about the relevance of what I have to say and stop typing so fast. Also treat people nicer. Anyways I don't want to make another long post, so I won't.
I never said I was deep, I can be remarkably shallow, horizions incredibly narrow.... Jarvis Cocker quote
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Bomboclat
Bluelight Crew
Suggestions for improvements and real commentary on the current state of the lounge and its potential future.
One Thousand Words
Bluelighter
I have cum stained tissues in my bedroom that have been here longer than you kitty. You wouldn't even know what bluelight stands for.
Bluelight has always been a place for sensible drug use. At the beginning it was a place for ravers to discuss the up coming weekend, ask for advice about pills and shoot the shit during a comedown. HR was actually relavant. Simple things like not mixing different pills because there was more risk of interactions from different adulterants, don't redose the next day, sip water through the night. God forbid if you were on heroin because it made sense that very few people can chip away at that shit
If someone was becoming addicted they were called out on it. As soon as you become an addict you have failed in preventing harm. I'm not shaming you for this, it's just fucking common sense. We have three fucking Darkside forums full of people who didn't heed these warningS.
Can anyone name one single staff member these days who isn't either a drug addict or sober? You all talk about a cliquey lounge but fail to notice the staffs own biased population. If my kids ever ended up on bluelight I'd rather they looked up to the members who enjoy drugs as a fun recreational hobby rather than a weight around their necks dragging them into addiction.
It's fine if you want to support addiction, but surely the mission statement should first and foremost be attempting to stopping members becoming addicts in the first place.
Makes the lounge a hidden forum, closes it as soon as it comes cliquey
What did you expect to happen?
i think you know this but the lounge is not closed for good as critics are implying. the close is temporary.
i'd draw your attention to the announcement i made yesterday: "The Lounge has been taken off-line for a day or two while we make some changes which include...making The Lounge visible to all users (registered and unregistered) and available for posting to all registered users (Bluelighters and Greenlighters)"
making the lounge hidden addressed symptoms rather than causes and was a mistake which will be rectified as part of the changes.
apparently i have never admitted i am wrong and i am incapable of admitting when a mistake has been made so make of that what you will
alasdair
i'd draw your attention to the announcement i made yesterday: "The Lounge has been taken off-line for a day or two while we make some changes which include...making The Lounge visible to all users (registered and unregistered) and available for posting to all registered users (Bluelighters and Greenlighters)"
making the lounge hidden addressed symptoms rather than causes and was a mistake which will be rectified as part of the changes.
apparently i have never admitted i am wrong and i am incapable of admitting when a mistake has been made so make of that what you will
alasdair
Bomboclat
Bluelight Crew
Thanks for chiming in Ali. People seem to have reading comprehension issues.
Will you allow greenlighters in now? I still think that's going to cause more trouble than it's worth.
Will you allow greenlighters in now? I still think that's going to cause more trouble than it's worth.
One Thousand Words
Bluelighter
Every thinks they don't have a problem. Can you name someone else?
One Thousand Words
Bluelighter
Bollocks space junk. You once had a raging smack addiction when you first came along.
agreed. i'm sorry to see people making erroneous claims and, in some case, just fabricating stuff but it's 'the usual suspects' so it's easily ignored.
we'll see. for now, the plan is to make the lounge available to all registered members. if it becomes a problem, we can revisit.
alasdair
And i kicked, thanks in part to some stuff i learned on bluelight.
If you're going to call me an addict 3 years later, that's your hangup, not mine.
If helping people overcome addictions isn't part of your self-proclaimed "HR 101" BS, then it's not worth SFA.
I moved on with my life, and enjoy drugs when i feel like it - not because i'm addicted.
Bomboclat
Bluelight Crew
^ tell us about your current recreational "smack" use or please stop talking as OTW is clearly right.
That's fair, though I do urge you to take a look back at the trouble it caused for both mods and members alike.
I'm sure there is a discussion about it in an archived lounge mod thread
That's fair, though I do urge you to take a look back at the trouble it caused for both mods and members alike.
I'm sure there is a discussion about it in an archived lounge mod thread
CosmicG
Bluelighter
I came into The Lounge as a totally naive PLUR filled noob that had no clue what was going on until someone (axl) took the time to PM me and explain what The Lounge was all about. He gave me some pointers to help me, and I did the best I could to utilize that information and made an attempt to adapt accordingly. It's been up and down as has been my life, but all in all, this place bas been great.
Posters shouldn't be popping in to make mailicious comments towards others though with the sole purpose of humiliating them or hurting them deeply. Yeah it's just the internet, but we are all real people dealing with similar struggles. There isn't anything light hearted about insulting deceased members and their loved ones, regardless of past history. It's not just a dickhead move, it's pure evil. Put your biased opinions to the side, drop the ego, and call it what it is.
Basically I still want to be able to flame and shit post...but there needs to be a line that cannot be crossed.
One Thousand Words
Bluelighter
It's not a hang up, it's just calling you out on your bullshit. You had a pretty heavy habit to poppy Sed tea and codeine so you can hardly stand here and say you are not in the addicts clique.
Bomboclat
Bluelight Crew
What happens when someone says something disagreeable to you in public? Wherever there is a line there will always be someone to step over it. I agree the comments lobbed toward kytn were out of pocket and harsh but Waao and others have the same right to make those comments as kytn does to get angry at them.
There are rules about personal attacks and that falls into that category. Infraction/warn and UA as necessary and move on.
This just brings me back to a comment both phrozen and I made: the lounge has always had shit throwing in it, but making it private and many lounge regulars leaving over the years only increased the volume of shit posters and didn't add anything to balance everything out. The content itself is nothing new though
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