I am not sure about that. Whenever I take kratom, I always have hiccups on it when the dose is high enough. I have read this is a effect of a beginning respiratory depression. But not sure about that.
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I am not sure about that. Whenever I take kratom, I always have hiccups on it when the dose is high enough. I have read this is a effect of a beginning respiratory depression. But not sure about that.
"In animal studies where rats were given mitragynine, those rats had no respiratory depression. This opens the possibility of someday developing a pain medication as effective as morphine but without the risk of accidentally overdosing and dying."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-kratom-be-legal/
There are other sources out there if you look. Kratom doesn't cause respiratory depression.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-kratom-be-legal/
There are other sources out there if you look. Kratom doesn't cause respiratory depression.
CfZrx
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kratom is a nice supplement if your pain doc is tightfisted with the meds.
I never claimed to know a lot about Kractom.
I did read one account where it was said that some kid came into an ER showing the symptoms of severe opiate withdrawal from taking Kractom. That's all the FDA would need to ban it. Their decisions aren't always rational. Its the 'protecting our children from themselves' thing.
I'd bet its banned in 5 years.
I did read one account where it was said that some kid came into an ER showing the symptoms of severe opiate withdrawal from taking Kractom. That's all the FDA would need to ban it. Their decisions aren't always rational. Its the 'protecting our children from themselves' thing.
I'd bet its banned in 5 years.
Next to become illegal?
It is already legal as I'm sure you know in most states.
As one poster already said, I'm concerned about it's status and will probably buy a few kilos eventually for that reason.
It can cause withdrawal but that's not the same thing as an overdose death at all.
I'm also worried about it's legal status but the truth is none of us really know.
I think some on here think there's more of a stir with the FDA than their might really be as most people still don't really know what Kratom is and I think the number of people on this forum that use it skews our perception of how many people REALLY use it, but the smart thing would be to stock up IMO...
Yeah it confuses me too..kratom is a better pain reliever than OxyContin and other hardcore pain meds..I can't belive how well kratom works at killing pain, giving energy and boosting mood..it's very functional too, I don't just want to sit and watch tv on it like other opiates
I know people hooked on heroin, if I introduced them to kratom would it alleviate their cravings and withdrawals?is kratom close to being as effective as subuxone in terms of keeping people off heroin..
Quitting kratom is not half as bad as opiates..u will have lethargy and restless legs but that's basically it..none of the torment of actual opiate withdrawal
Damn, anyone that has kicked a strong OxyContin or heroin habit and then kicked kratom would laugh at kratom withdrawals being as severe as opiate withdrawals..I can binge hard on kratom with no withdrawals but I was never able to do this with heroin or oxy without suffering Nast withdrawal symptoms..
Agreed, kratom withdrawals aren't fun, but they aren't half as bad as a hard dope kick or jumping off from a big OC habit. Those withdrawals literally are debilitating. With kratom withdrawals, you're honestly functional, it just looks like you've got a bad cold and you're in a real bad mood. Like I said...not fun, but nothing like cold turkey kicking a bundle a day dope habit.
Wilson Wilson
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If it can't be patented they aren't interested.
Anyone else dislike white strains?i was of the mindset where u couldn't tell between a white or red strain, I disagree now..whites give me an energy boost but leaves me with almost adderal type stimulant side effects..I sometimes get shaky and just plain irritable after taking white Borneo..I'm sticking to reds and greens from here on out..reds are my favorite
I'd be interested to hear people's opinions about the different . I've only purchased the Maeng Da, which came highly recommended. What are some of the other potent strains one might purchase?
I suppose we can't discuss on-line companies Kractom vendors here.
I suppose we can't discuss on-line companies Kractom vendors here.
The vendor is more important than the strain, in my opinion. The strains I like the most sold by the vendor I'm using now are maeng da green, white indo, red Malay, and red Bali. But from other vendors I regularly ordered other strains. The basic rule is red vein strains are more sedating and opiate-like, green are more energetic, and white have aspects of both. But that's not always true, depending on the source. I suspect some vendors sell the same stuff under different names.
Slow_Mobius
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/u...ive-is-found-to-be-addictive-itself.html?_r=0
The New York Times recently did an article on Kratom. I'm still waiting for the day that journalists use statistical information instead of anecdotal scare tactics just to get a rise out of people
The New York Times recently did an article on Kratom. I'm still waiting for the day that journalists use statistical information instead of anecdotal scare tactics just to get a rise out of people
Exactly why I say Kractom's days are numbered.
There is a lot of ridiculous speculation in that piece. Kractom is causing former heroin addicts to relapse? Really? Because we all know former heroin addicts never ever relapse on their own. Typical scapegoating used by substance abuse experts to hide their own failings.
There is a lot of ridiculous speculation in that piece. Kractom is causing former heroin addicts to relapse? Really? Because we all know former heroin addicts never ever relapse on their own. Typical scapegoating used by substance abuse experts to hide their own failings.
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