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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Upon researching it, Kratom can show up in drug tests. Only the specialized ones looking for the byproducts will find it though.
 
Wow. I never knew Kratom causes miosis. How long will my pupils be constricted? I look like a demon, lol.
 
anonken18 said:
I took 3 grams to see if I would have any bad reactions. A comment on the taste though. I found that it was easy to eat the powder. People say it's really bitter, but I'm used to Yerba Mate, Calea Zacatechichi, and a bunch of other really bitter herbs.
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Yeah, 3 grams is no problem. Try eating 15 grams and then tell me the taste isn't bad.
 
The taste isn't the problem with eating kratom powder IMHO, the problem is the texture. It's hard to swallow dry powder. I pour some in my mouth, then quickly take a swig of some non-carbonated drink. Shake the powder around with the liquid in my mouth before swallowing it. Not pleasant, but efficient.

I used to mix it with applesauce, but found it worked better on a fully empty stomach.
 
I remember when Kratom was first making its debut in the US. So many haters were out there, claiming it did nothing, that it didn't cause dependence... Now I hope it's evident. It works quite well. My number one choice above all others. Good for: sleep, energy, pain, lethargy, depression; even regulates blood sugar.
 
What's a good dose for white maeng da? I took 3 grams of Malay, and it made me feel pretty good for a while.
 
What is usually a good first time dosage for a UEI extract?

I've done plain leaf before but never an extract.

And is it easy to get sick from extracts if you dose a little too high?

Meaning, easier to get sick off of extracts than plain leaf?

I've felt crappy from taking too much plain leaf but never actually gotten SICK as in vomiting and would like to avoid that.
 
Start with a 1/4 tsp and see how that does. That may be under-dosing, but then again it maybe the sweet spot for you. Plain leaf will make you feel sick from all the plant matter, extracts (UEI and FST, in particular) will make you feel sick because they are so powerful. Vomiting is a good possibility, even if you do dose cautiously.

Definitely go with 1/4 tsp. If it is underwhelming, wait a day or two and try with 1/2 tsp. Feeling only 'a little high' is much better than being so nauseous that you are scared to move
 
I have UEI from the original vendor and 500 mg is active for me. Considering I take 30 times that of plain leaf, that's pretty impressive. I've had weaker UEI from other sources, but it's definitely wise to start low with this stuff.
 
Doldrugs said:
I have UEI from the original vendor and 500 mg is active for me. Considering I take 30 times that of plain leaf, that's pretty impressive. I've had weaker UEI from other sources, but it's definitely wise to start low with this stuff.
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About how many teaspoons is 500mg?

Or do you think it can't accurately be measured that way?

I don't have a scale and haven't found it necessary for plain leaf but maybe I should get one.
 
I think a quarter teaspoon is roughly 500 mg, but it's not a very accurate method of measurement. The grind of the leaf is gonna have a notable effect on its accuracy. Basic digital scales are cheap and readily available online. I don't think one is necessary in this particular instance, but it would certainly be preferable.
 
^^^

Is there any kind of scale in particular you'd recommend? (Not sure if saying the name of a scale is brand discussion, might be...)
 
does anyone else notice intense headaches during the comedown of taking kratom? after like two hours of feeling okay, i usually have a gigantic headache and feel super drained, regardless of what dose i take.
 
sweetjaaaane said:
does anyone else notice intense headaches during the comedown of taking kratom? after like two hours of feeling okay, i usually have a gigantic headache and feel super drained, regardless of what dose i take.
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Yeah I get headaches sometimes as well, usually on the comedown of a larger dose (10+ grams). Ibuprofen and bud will both help IME, although bud will help a lot quicker. :)
 
Mycophile said:
Is there any kind of scale in particular you'd recommend? (Not sure if saying the name of a scale is brand discussion, might be...)
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I don't think it violates any rules. The 01/100 gram Smart Weigh is universally loved, cheap as shit, and easy to find. I've never had any problems with it and I've had it for years. You do need to calibrate it, though, so you might want to pick up a weight for that as well, and it doesn't hurt to recalibrate from time to time. The weights are also cheap. The same company makes a .001/20 gram scale that's pretty cheap as well. That one comes with a weight. I've never had problems with that one either.

Just keep in mind these are cheap scales. Their accuracy is therefore questionable toward the lower end of their accuracy limits. This is utterly unimportant for weed, kratom, MDMA, DMT, etc but potentially dangerous with more potent RCs. Volumetric measurement is probably smarter with something like 5-Meo-MIPT, for example.
 
Fwiw, I would use a scale for UEI, not because if you're a hundred milligrams off its going to make you sick, but if you want to take 500mg, taking 600 every time is a money waste. It'll add up, and just raise your tolerance faster than it would if you were taking less. It's more of an economic thing, really.

I think calling UEI and FST extracts should be avoided, they're not really.
 
Hammilton said:
Fwiw, I would use a scale for UEI, not because if you're a hundred milligrams off its going to make you sick, but if you want to take 500mg, taking 600 every time is a money waste. It'll add up, and just raise your tolerance faster than it would if you were taking less. It's more of an economic thing, really.

I think calling UEI and FST extracts should be avoided, they're not really.
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What do you think they are then?

You don't think most of what is in them is derived from alkaloids present in Kratom?

If not, what do you think is in them?
 
Extracts raise your tolerance noticeably in a way plain leaf doesn't. I've experienced it. They're worth avoiding for that reason alone. But I think they're fun from time to time. I've heard rumors that they have synthetics in them but never seen confirmation or proof.
 
I have been using kratom for about two years on and off mostly on. I used to have the will power to keep my doses at 5-6 grams of maeng da ( give me some energy for classes, lacrosse, and work) but the will power slowly went away and the doses and how many times i dosed grew. After my gf broke up with me after 4 years and both of my grandparents died all in the same month i ended up spending my days in bed. i went to the doctor and he prescribed me wellbutrin 300xl and it works wonders but it seems to cancel out the kratom. it usually takes about 10-12 grams to feel anything before the wellbutrin but now that i am taking it i can not feel a thing i even went up to 18 grams to no effect. has anyone experienced the same thing ? i have searched and have not found much on it. i have a feeling that it is the wellbutrins dopamine effects that is canceling out the kratom but i am not knowledgeable on the subject. can someone explain it ?
 
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