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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Hammilton said:
Mycophile, just buy the fucking stuff and try it. You've been posting on here with your should I or shouldn't I crap for months, along with some long detailed PMs I sent you on the subject. At some point you have to just get done and give it a try for fuck's sake. We're not weighing the benefits of chemotherapy options or anything all that serious. It's a recreational drug.

Try it or don't, enough with the goddamn handwringing, you're not adding anything to the thread but questions you've already asked a dozen times and had answered a dozen times. If you want a particular individual's feelings on the subject, send them a PM, quit cluttering up the thread with it.

But don't send me one, we already did that after all your handwringing over whether or not to try Kratom, this is the exact same nonsense.
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Dude, I'm not "handwringing".

I already decided MONTHS ago I was buying either UEI or Oxindole and I've got no concerns (at the moment) over either in terms of addiction etc etc because we already discussed all that, I was just asking simple questions about the two of them which is one of the things this thread is for.

I guess I will stop cluttering the thread, but you don't need to give me a talking to because I'm not doing the whole worrying type of "hand wringing" I've done in the past.

None of these are hypochondriacal questions they are run of the mill questions relating to preference, drug effects and other things that are pretty much what this thread was intended to be about in the first place.

I'd have bought the shit a long time ago anyways but I haven't had the money which I will be getting in a few weeks so I thought I'd just ask a few final questions before I place my order.

At this point I have no more questions though anymore and if I had the cash I'd buy both UEI and Oxindole and be done with it but I don't so I have to choose.

I'm usually someone who overthinks everything, but I'm doing no more "handwringing" over this than I do when I go shopping for beer lol.

If you ever see me it takes me like 15 minutes to pick out which six pack I want or 20 minutes to pick my meal off a menu but that's not at all the same thing as freaking out or "handwringing".

Believe me, I know about both first hand.
 
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This may be a stupid question, but I cannot search very well as I'm om the Internet on ps4 haha. Anyway, is kratom itself an opiate/opioid? I've always wondered.
 
Drew. said:
I don't know about you guys but when I take higher doses of kratom, the nauseas feelings get stronger as well as the other effects.

So one time I swear I nodded but I was also VERY sick feeling and had to lay down and eventually went to sleep.
That only happened once, though. So I'd say it has the pote tial to mimic even stronger effects than morphine so oxy might be in That ballpark as well...?
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I've never gotten nauseous from plain leaf, only once or twice on extracts. Some people are just susceptible to kratom induced nausea. Two of my friends can't take it for this reason. I don't have any issue with it, I get insanely high from it without nausea, not a subtle feeling like a lot of people talk about, but full on high as fuck. I like the high way more than what I get from hydrocodone or oxycodone. For me the major negative side effect is hearing sensitivity/ear pressure. Sometimes it's an issue and sometimes it isn't, even at the same dose, so I don't know what the deal on that is, but it sucks. Especially in social situations where I need to keep shushing people.

ThinWhiteDuke23 said:
This may be a stupid question, but I cannot search very well as I'm om the Internet on ps4 haha. Anyway, is kratom itself an opiate/opioid? I've always wondered.
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It can't be an opiate, which includes only some chemicals naturally found in the poppy plant. The active chemicals in kratom do hit the same relevant receptors, helpfully called the opioid receptors, which makes it an opioid. Not all opioid receptors can produce opiate-like effects though. Salvia is interesting in that it produces very, very different effects by binding to the kappa opioid receptor.
 
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AM I in the right place?Am I suppose to tell you my history and med probs?I just wanted to talk to someone about Kratom I just discovered.I have sooo many questions but the posts are like 5 years old.
 
“Users say it’s the legal form of heroin, with hallucinogenic effects like LSD,” reported KOKH-TV, Oklahoma City’s Fox affiliate.
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LOL

Don't these people know they're living parodies of themselves by now? It's not like this is a new meme.
 
does anyone else find that green or white vein strains give them unwanted effects? I used to enjoy the motivation and calm energy I got from the greens or whites but recently I've noticed that i get headaches, pressure in the ears?, slight loss of hearing as if ears are blocked, more rapid heart beat. I started to only take the red strains and these effects seemed to have almost completely subsided.
 
headfuck123 said:
does anyone else find that green or white vein strains give them unwanted effects? I used to enjoy the motivation and calm energy I got from the greens or whites but recently I've noticed that i get headaches, pressure in the ears?, slight loss of hearing as if ears are blocked, more rapid heart beat. I started to only take the red strains and these effects seemed to have almost completely subsided.
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I get these kinds of effects from every strain but I agree they're way less pronounced in red strains. Except for the rapid heart beat. I don't get that.
 
What would a good dose for beginners be? I ordered some white vein something. I forgot what it was called. Would 2 - 3 grams be a good starter dose?
 
Do Kratom or Kratom extracts show up as a positive for Opiates on drug tests?

Has anyone ever taken Kratom or Kratom extracts and then passed or failed a drug test afterwards?
 
anonken18 said:
What would a good dose for beginners be? I ordered some white vein something. I forgot what it was called. Would 2 - 3 grams be a good starter dose?
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I started at 5 grams, and a year and a half later, that's still my dose. 5 grams is roughly 2 level teaspoons of powdered leaf.

Anything more than that and I'll get nauseous.

Mix it with a tablespoon or two of hot water to make a paste, then mix in a little bit of iced tea, or juice. Gulp it down and enjoy!
 
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5 seems like a reasonable dose to start with. I don't feel anything under 10 g but some people are a lot more sensitive.
 
Mycophile said:
Do Kratom or Kratom extracts show up as a positive for Opiates on drug tests?

Has anyone ever taken Kratom or Kratom extracts and then passed or failed a drug test afterwards?
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It will not result in a false positive for opiates. I have been taking Kratom and passing weekly urine screens since January.
 
I just got some Malay and White Maeng Da Kratom. I just started with Kratom, so I only ordered an ounce of each. I just tried the Malay one. It has only been 5 minutes, so I can't comment on the effects. I took 3 grams to see if I would have any bad reactions. A comment on the taste though. I found that it was easy to eat the powder. People say it's really bitter, but I'm used to Yerba Mate, Calea Zacatechichi, and a bunch of other really bitter herbs.
 
freedom35 said:
It will not result in a false positive for opiates. I have been taking Kratom and passing weekly urine screens since January.
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Yeah I survived probation taking kratom for years, no false positives. I have heard some places having a specific test for kratom now though. Highly doubt they would test kratom for employment, just criminal cases(I'm innocent I swear).
 
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