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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Blown out my tolerance to kratom just from sporadic use, what should i do now?

I am surprised by how fast it happened since I only took it a couple times a week and there are people who take it every day.

I was doing an experiment to see if I could creep up a day at a time sooner each time and still get good effects. Well turns out I cant :P.

I would usually take it with 4 days break in between. So I tried 3 days. then 2 days.

But on the last couple of times the euphoric effects have blunted more and more and yesterday it was so blunted I just felt a dull sedation.

I even waited 5 days this week to see if it would bring it down and even when I took almost an extra gram higher than usual it didnt give me any more pleasant effects really. There was just a more fuzzy foggy sedation and an increase in nausea so I just felt slightly ill for most of the day.

Bear in mind I was only taking between 2.5 to 2.8 grams before. So only baby doses yet still my tolerance has ramped. I dont understand how people take it every day and get anything from it. They must really pile the stuff down and only get shitty effects from it. To me taking more would just feel like Im fighting the tide so seems an effort in futility.

As such it doesnt seem faesible as a semi regular thing as the tolerance ramped up very sharply.

Also I cant do the swap strains trick either since I find every other strain anxiety inducing except for this one red vein borneo from one particular vendor.

So I guess its find another DOC time. If I found another DOC for biweekly use then kratom could fit in then as a more occasional thing since I wouldnt be tolerant to it.
 
Easiest method I've found in the couple years I've been experimenting is dumping ~5g into a 1x1 1-ply piece of toilet paper and parachute it. I sip some non-carbonated beverage without swallowing, put the kratom parachute in my mouth and hold it until it starts to soak then chug it down as fast as possible. One too many experiences with accidently inhaling kratom powder (if you've ever done this you'll know the feeling) has created an aversion to the taste, smell & consistency of this stuff. Yuck.
 
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What is parachuting anyway?

Is that swallowing toilet paper after you've wrapped it around something?

I would certainly not want to swallow toilet paper.

I think others are much more bothered by the taste of Kratom than I am but everyone's different.
 
Yes it involves swallowing a 1x1 square piece of 1-ply toilet paper. It goes down a lot smoother than ground up kratom dust. You basically grasp the four corners of the toilet paper and twist it into a 'parachute', hence the name.
 
Thanks for you'all sharing your methods and experiences. I think I may want to be oxy free at least 24 hours before trying it, as it sounds like in some cases, it blunts the opioid high. Not that I am getting high at this time, even though my taper is very minimal... I can't get high on oxy unless I take more than what is prescribed daily all at once. I guess I want to know what my "pure" kratom experience is, and then since I am a journaling freak, will note the strain, method, and amount for future reference. We definitely all seem to have our own unique experience on it though. NOt like opiates... most of have classic positive reactions to them.
 
Parachuting is a great idea, hadn't thought of that. I hate inhaling kratom dust, can't be good for you. Especially that micro powder.
 
How many Maeng Da caps and/or spoonfuls of powder for maximum euphoria? How to measure powder and proper intake?
 
So how long should i wait for my tolerance to reset?

Doesnt it sound strange that i got tolerance just fomr that twice per week modest dosing? you guys take way more and still get effects right?

I dont want to not wait long enough then take it again and be back at square one.
 
I was just wondering if people feel like the experience from UEI is much stronger and closer to Oxycodone/Hydrocodone than plain leaf?

And for anyone who has tried that and the Oxindole extract, which would you more strongly recommend to someone who has only tried plain leaf?
 
I want to try to mix kratom with some other herbs (valerian blue lotus and wild dagga) do any people have experience with mixing kratom with other herbs than cannabis?
 
bernax said:
I want to try to mix kratom with some other herbs (valerian blue lotus and wild dagga) do any people have experience with mixing kratom with other herbs than cannabis?
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I tried with valerian and was unimpressed :P It lasts so little time and has such little effect it was just frustrating. Kratom I find is not a complete high (not at a dose to take to avoid a hangover anyhow) so I am also looking to round it off with some other sedative. Looking at the gabaergics it is hard to find something that is as harmless as kratom that could be taken regular with it. kava seems the closest thing but yet to try in combo.
 
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As far as I'm concerned the only way to take Kratom is to buy empty pill capsules and fill them up with powdered Kratom. It takes a while to get to a high dose and then even more time spent swallowing them all, but I just couldn't take Kratom in any other form.

I found it to briefly and mildly help with RLS and get a little bit of sleep during acute withdrawal, but never long term effective for me nor any high, especially opiate like.
 
I've found if you don't switch it up between strains the opiate feel buzz goes away very quickly....and I don't like to up my dose very far as the negatives quickly outweigh the positives
 
I'm still wondering if people in general find UEI to be stronger than plain leaf or have a high closer to Oxycodone.
 
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I'm still wondering if people in general find UEI to be stronger than plain leaf or have a high closer to Oxycodone.
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UEI is enhanced so obviously it's stronger. How much stronger depends on where you get it from. I find some extracts similar to oxy, but it's been a while since I had UEI. FST definitely reminds me of oxycodone when taken alone. I've purchased more UEB than UEI, mostly because of price, although I'm frankly not sure what the difference is. Supposedly it's different base strains but who knows.
 
For those who have tried both, which would you buy if you have a choice, UEI or Oxindole?
 
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I don't know about you guys but when I take higher doses of kratom, the nauseas feelings get stronger as well as the other effects.

So one time I swear I nodded but I was also VERY sick feeling and had to lay down and eventually went to sleep.
That only happened once, though. So I'd say it has the pote tial to mimic even stronger effects than morphine so oxy might be in That ballpark as well...?
 
Mycophile, just buy the fucking stuff and try it. You've been posting on here with your should I or shouldn't I crap for months, along with some long detailed PMs I sent you on the subject. At some point you have to just get done and give it a try for fuck's sake. We're not weighing the benefits of chemotherapy options or anything all that serious. It's a recreational drug.

Try it or don't, enough with the goddamn handwringing, you're not adding anything to the thread but questions you've already asked a dozen times and had answered a dozen times. If you want a particular individual's feelings on the subject, send them a PM, quit cluttering up the thread with it.

But don't send me one, we already did that after all your handwringing over whether or not to try Kratom, this is the exact same nonsense.
 
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