Kratom The Kratom Megathread

[crunkazcanbe]

This is the kratom thread.

I know ,but theres several people that talk about tianeptine on here .

 

[joshua_2015]

Same here. I noticed the same thing. But then over time I became psychologically habituated and eventually after having surgery and adding other prescribed meds to the mix became physically dependent on it, and the cons of being dependent started to outweigh the pros. Using it hasn't been the same since, but I haven't had an extended break from it either. Really unfortunate. If only...

I noticed when using kratom after my first few what I would call good experiences I started to experience naseau to the point where I couldn't even get to a good feeling without getting sick I then changed vendors I'm thinking there is some sort of bacteria in kratom when not properly prepared by the vendors

 

[joshua_2015]

This is very interesting read man , and I can honestly say I get this same exact thing . I take anywhere from 10-18 grams all in one go every night that is until I found out about Tianeptine, but thats a different story . It does not matter to me I take red or green strain I always end up staying up until about 5-6 in the morning thats even with 2-3 beers with it to . I know everyone has there preferences , but in my opinion the green malay is by far the most euphoric strain . I take 18 grams , and just when I can just about feel it I go eat a light meal about 1 sandwich then like clock work every time I eat it potentates the fuck out of it I go into this state that all I can describe it as is like the come up on acid in this kinda out of it state then the oxycodone like effects come on , and I sit up all night melting in my PC chair playing PC games. PC gamer here 11k dollar pc water cooled built just for gaming .

TBH kratom is nice , but I have almost totally moved away from it to tianeptine which is by far more like oxycodone , and in fact I like it more then so , and I know what oxy is like since I get 120 30mg IR tabs a month prescribed to me . Now the tianeptine will knock you on your ass I know ;because I took 350mg right before going into me and my wifes friends house yesterday to eat dinner with them , and I was nodding out in my plate of food . Lets just say my wife had to take me home . But boy I was in full blown melt in my seat nod out heaven .

man how would you derscribe the tianeptine high and how much do you take how much does it truely resemble oxy I'm considering making an order any advice and know how

 

[Peacephrog1972]

To all those who feel bloated naeseous with kratom

I've done some research and kratom doesn't mix well with liquid, so when you take it it kinda of sits on top of the liquid in your stomach

I have found it to give me Superbad bloating.....I will be decreasing my usage here on out....not worth it to feel like that!!

 

[pinpoint]

To the tianeptine users, there is a megathread here.

 

[StanleyJobson]

I've been trying out kratom over the past couple weeks, and it seems a lot subtler than I was expecting. I was hoping for more like a Vicodin high, but all I got was a bit of a mood lift, followed by some irritability. Kinda sucks.

 

[crunkazcanbe]

man how would you derscribe the tianeptine high and how much do you take how much does it truely resemble oxy I'm considering making an order any advice and know how

Hey man go Here , and we can talk about this.

 

[CfZrx]

I've been trying out kratom over the past couple weeks, and it seems a lot subtler than I was expecting. I was hoping for more like a Vicodin high, but all I got was a bit of a mood lift, followed by some irritability. Kinda sucks.

You're right. If you take a bunch of the good stuff though, you'll notice major pain relief if you have chronic pain. At least for me. That's how I know it certainly is binding to opiate receptors...

 

[Patton-45]

Dont do Higher doses. It takes away from the high. Do enough to get the Euphoric warm blanket. Take your dose on an empty stomach and then eat a small sandwich and it will hit.

 

[Patton-45]

Dude??!!! really??!! Its a damn leaf. considered an herb. LEGAL. Can buy it at a number of online vendors and is in NOW WAY close to Heroin. so in short NO!!!!!!!

 

[Patton-45]

Hi. I have been taking Kratom for 2 years. Its a controlled habit lol. Once in the morning with breakfast and once in the evening. I love it while I work. I am euphoric, energetic and can concentrate easily. Its fun. and you are super productive. Its like a morning coffee. I love it and would not want it any other way!!

 

[Mycophile]

I've been trying out kratom over the past couple weeks, and it seems a lot subtler than I was expecting. I was hoping for more like a Vicodin high, but all I got was a bit of a mood lift, followed by some irritability. Kinda sucks.

It's not as strong as something like Vicodin or Percocet but it can get you nice and high, it's just a different kind of milder high.

It has a BIG learning curve I've found and if you are impatient and expecting it to work perfectly the first time you will be dissapointed.

You need to take the time to figure out the exact dosage that is right for you, not too much or too little, and what strain is right for you, whether you have your best effects on an empty stomach or eating with it, as everyone reacts differently to it and it's a unique substance.

If you are expecting it to blow you out of the water your first time and feel like it's a full blown Oxycodone high then you will be dissapointed but just because it's milder than Perc/Vic doesn't make it useless.

I think it's kind of like what the native Americans considered a "plant teacher".

Gain a relationship and all that shit with it and it will treat you better.

Some might say that is spiritual bullshit but it's just an analogy and I find that it works.

Kratom isn't a high grade pharmaceutical but I believe it has a much greater potential to be used therapeutically than prescription opiates.

 

[RecoveringPothead]

Dude??!!! really??!! Its a damn leaf. considered an herb. LEGAL. Can buy it at a number of online vendors and is in NOW WAY close to Heroin. so in short NO!!!!!!!

Who claimed it was close to heroin

IMHO its not close to heroin or coffee...somewhere in the middle.

People should be aware of its real addiction potential if we want to keep it legal so we don't have uninformed consumers who end up addicted.

 

[Inrecovery]

If anyone can answer this it would be great.

Why Can't kratom be sold for human consumption? It is sold as teabags and capsules, surely these are for consumption. Why is it different to other health giving herbs and sleep aids such as valerian? Because valerian is unproven amongst others

I am in the uk

 

[when I dream]

If anyone can answer this it would be great.

Why Can't kratom be sold for human consumption? It is sold as teabags and capsules, surely these are for consumption. Why is it different to other health giving herbs and sleep aids such as valerian? Because valerian is unproven amongst others

I am in the uk

I don't know about the UK, but in the US I think that it can actually be sold for consumption as a supplement, but that most sellers claim it is not for human consumption just to avoid possible litigation from bad reactions and what not. It's not illegal (in most states) and is not an analog of an illegal drug so as far as I know it's completely legal to sell it for consumption.

 

[Bluuberry]

In the US, it has to do with FDA approval and importation. They can seize incoming kratom shipments at customs if it is intended for human consumption. This is because of some stupid law the FDA made regarding importing herbs that have not been used in the US previous to some specific year. Or at least this is what I have heard from a kratom vendor.

 

[Inrecovery]

Thanks for answering. Maybe the same may apply here as I have noticed some vendors say not for human consumption and some do not, even though they both ship from the uk. Also there is no above 18 tick box like there are in rc sites.

 

[Mycophile]

In the US, it has to do with FDA approval and importation. They can seize incoming kratom shipments at customs if it is intended for human consumption. This is because of some stupid law the FDA made regarding importing herbs that have not been used in the US previous to some specific year. Or at least this is what I have heard from a kratom vendor.

So why is the FDA still clearly seizing shipments of Kratom which still says on the package that it ISN'T sold for human consumption?

I had a package that once didn't arrive and I suspect this must have happened and it PISSED me off seriously.

It's literally stealing someone's mail and all the money they spent on it and should be illegal IMO.

 

[LilikoiMoon]

Hi. I have been taking Kratom for 2 years. Its a controlled habit lol. Once in the morning with breakfast and once in the evening. I love it while I work. I am euphoric, energetic and can concentrate easily. Its fun. and you are super productive. Its like a morning coffee. I love it and would not want it any other way!!

You still feel the same after each dose two years later? That's awesome .. unlike opiates, where it's harder to achieve that wonderful feeling after daily use for two years.

I just ordered a sample pack from a reputable vendor...should be here monday. I'm stoked to try it.

 

[when I dream]

So why is the FDA still clearly seizing shipments of Kratom which still says on the package that it ISN'T sold for human consumption.

I had a package that once didn't arrive and I suspect this must have happened and it PISSED me off seriously.

It's literally stealing someone's mail and all the money they spent on it and should be illegal IMO.

I've heard about this happening. I would bet they are doing it on some sort of suspicion of illegal substances thing and then just not returning it. It should definitely be illegal if it isn't already.