Though I'm sure I'm not the first person to experience this I thought I'd share how much enjoyment I've been getting from the "insomnia" side effect that Green Vein (and White too) Kratom causes me in combination with benadryl/diphenhydramine and melatonin.
It's weird but I'm sure with all the consciousness exploration people here do that there must be others on here who also enjoy exploring half sleep states and the like.
For me, if I take any green or white vein Kratom less than like 8 hours before bed I'll have EXTREME trouble sleeping if I can sleep at all.
However, if you like the way diphenhydramine/benadryl feels, especially if you have a low tolerance to it like me, then you'll find that you can get a fringe benefit out of the insomnia Kratom can cause you.
I mean, afterall, if you can't sleep you may as well get SOME kind of a high out of it right??
So what I'll do is if I take Kratom too close to bedtime and know I can't sleep I'll take some extra benadryl, like 2 1/2--3 pills when 2 is the normal dosage and also 3 and 3/4s milligrams of liquid melatonin to try to get to sleep (I always take this dosage of melatonin anyways and these days I often take benadryl).
So of course what happens is that the Kratom stops me from fully falling asleep but the benadryl/melatonin combo partially knocks me out so I just kind of exist in that half-sleep state all night long for hours on end and after experiencing it a few times I've gotten to REALLY enjoy it, so much so that if I know I have nothing to do the next day and can sleep late I'll intentionally take my Kratom later in the day so that I can't sleep at night and can enjoy this unusual state that the drug combo puts me in.
If I DON'T take benadryl and/or melatonin at night after taking Kratom I will be WIDE awake all night long, like even more than coffee but not speedy either like an amphetamine, just COMPLETELY awake as if I'd just woken up from 10 hours of sleep, but the sleep meds put me half way out.
So I basically nod all night long, never really being sure at any moment whether or not I was asleep or awake, looking at the clock every now and then and not being sure if I've been sleeping or waking.
I'm sure SOME of the time I'm asleep but it's that EXTREMELY light kind of sleep.
Anyways, it's just a cool feeling, especially if I put on some light music in the background and have my room nice and dark but maybe with a couple things flashing in the background like a screen saver or black light to provide ambiance and while I haven't tried it with weed I'm sure that a few hits of good bud would go GREAT with it.
Basically, it is a way of experiencing a mild diphenydramine high for the full 4-6 hours if usually it puts you to sleep and like me you aren't interested in trying to take 10-20 times the dose to trip.
I don't know, I like dreamy half-sleep type states so I've been digging it so I thought I'd share for when you can't fall asleep off Kratom but have time to sleep in the next day and would rather not be angry tossing and turning in bed all night, at least you can get something out of it.