Kratom The Kratom Megathread

[Choose Life]

Someone is managing the refunds
The email I received yesterday said orders that didn't ship would appear on your credit card as a refund in 5-7 days
It also said the company is no longer in business

 

[Erikmen]

Try to find a place nearby that you go in person to get it. It legal..

 

[Drew.]

I took a particularly large amount of maeng da yesterday and I was EXTREMELY sedated but caffeinated at the same time ( felt as much if not more). It passed me out a few hours later after some buds. It was actually relaxing.
But, today I took it after work on an empty stomach and didn't get any sedation at all, just the antsy "gotta go go go" feeling that works oh so well for me for my nightly supervisions. But yes! This was also temperamental for me this time. Different bags, same strain. Maybe that was what caused it, who knows!

I find if I take a couple tsp of maeng (usually less of maeng due to potency), borno red, or white vain 25 mins before I go to work at 1 a.m. alongside coffee makes me WANT to work out and do the work at hand, it feels great. Much synergy!

 

[liftedgift]

Yeah kratom/caffeine and working out had me damn near opiate-euphoric levels for a couple hours. Reading this thread has me ordering more kratom after like 6 months of not using lol.

 

[Kel44]

I love the Kratom and caffeine combo. My first dose of the day is on an empty stomach except for a cup of coffee.

 

[Erikmen]

How do you use it?

 

[Drew.]

It's in powder form, from a ground up plant. I just get a little water mixed into it and
chug the mud like a shot - then drink and wash my mouth with orange juice or whatever the pref.
It can be used as a tea as well. Smoking kratom would just be a waste (and would take much longer to feel anything).

A search on here would have results I'm sure.

 

[Innerpeace]

well its illegal in TN

 

[Doldrugs]

I parachute it.

 

[liftedgift]

How do you use it?

I always got a business card or something like that and just put the kratom on the card, bent the card a little and let the kratom slide on my tongue. The trick is to keep the kratom on your tongue, not in your teeth. As it hits your tongue, take a gulp of whatever drink you prefer and gulp it down. As long as you don't breathe in through your nose while the kratom is in your mouth and if none fell off your tongue, you won't taste any kratom with this method.

 

[FlawedByDesign]

I've said this a million times in this and previous kratom threads but the BEST way to take powder kratom is to take an empty 16 ounce water bottle and fill it about a third of the way full of orange juice, make a paper funnel and pour the kratom, shake violently for 45 seconds, and chug. The taste(and acidity I think) of the OJ maskes 99% of the kratom and actually tastes half decent. The thickish consistency of OJ makes it the only liquid that a hyrdophobic powder like kratom will disperse into assuming you spent enough time shaking and your kratom is ground finely enough(which really doesn't have to be that fine). You end up with a decent tasting liquid that is less thick than say a whey protein shake, not to mention it lasts longer than tea and you dont lose alkaloids. Toss-n-Wash makes me feel bloated and nauseous. Fact:OJ is the best way to take powdered kratom(imho)

 

[Jabberwocky]

got my Vivtrol shot today, so wont even be trying Kratom anytime soon.

maybe once I wrap up my Vivitrol ill TRY Kratom for ONCE; I've TRIED it before but was already on a heavy dosage of Methadone (95MG) and then tried again but was shooting 1-2G's of dope/daily so never worked for me. finally just gave my Kratom away to a friend who wasnt a heavy junkie like me and now I am on Vivitrol and Kratom would be useless to someone like me. lets HOPE later on in life I can give this ANOTHER TRY and have it work.

 

[Doldrugs]

I always got a business card or something like that and just put the kratom on the card, bent the card a little and let the kratom slide on my tongue. The trick is to keep the kratom on your tongue, not in your teeth. As it hits your tongue, take a gulp of whatever drink you prefer and gulp it down. As long as you don't breathe in through your nose while the kratom is in your mouth and if none fell off your tongue, you won't taste any kratom with this method.

Whenever I've tried this the kratom clumped up and stuck in my mouth and throat making me gag and have an overall terrible time. It's like an awful version of the cinammon challenge.

 

[FlawedByDesign]

got my Vivtrol shot today, so wont even be trying Kratom anytime soon.

maybe once I wrap up my Vivitrol ill TRY Kratom for ONCE; I've TRIED it before but was already on a heavy dosage of Methadone (95MG) and then tried again but was shooting 1-2G's of dope/daily so never worked for me. finally just gave my Kratom away to a friend who wasnt a heavy junkie like me and now I am on Vivitrol and Kratom would be useless to someone like me. lets HOPE later on in life I can give this ANOTHER TRY and have it work.

Glad to see you posting. I was worried about ya. Let us know how that shot works as it may be something I consider myself.
Edit:if that shot works for you stay far away from kratom as well as all opiates. Fuck chipping and Fuck opiates imho

 

[Mycophile]

Am I the only one who can't fall asleep unless I dose like 12 hours before bedtime??

I'm wondering if there's any solution to this problem and any way I can dose closer to bedtime and still sleep but it seems it's just not really possible.

Last time I dosed too close to bedtime I took my usually dose of melatonin plus 2 1/2 benadryls to try to sleep and still couldn't fall asleep until 6AM.

I'm guessing there's probably no real solution other than not to dose near bedtime but I find it odd that other people don't have so much trouble sleeping after Kratom.

Maybe one factor is I usually take mainly green Malay and not as much Red Bali but I've had just as much trouble sleeping after taking Bali.

It's frustrating cause I'd like to re-dose but I simply can't or else I wont be able to sleep.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Glad to see you posting. I was worried about ya. Let us know how that shot works as it may be something I consider myself.
Edit:if that shot works for you stay far away from kratom as well as all opiates. Fuck chipping and Fuck opiates imho

I was told even Kratom wouldnt work so I got rid of the Kratom anyway; Kratom was NEVER something that worked; I was always too junked on on dope to even consider trying Kratom and on way too much methadone to consider Kratom.

I tried Kratom twice; first time I was on 95MG methadone and 2nd time I was shooting a gram+ of junk a day; so both times were a WASTE and finally I threw the junk away cuz I had it for 6+ months and never got a chance to use because I was always on too high a dosage of dope or methadone.

the shot will keep me away from drinking too, so lets see how all goes for me. I still intend to smoke weed and take benzos here and there, we'll see.

 

[furryfreek]

Am I the only one who can't fall asleep unless I dose like 12 hours before bedtime??

I'm wondering if there's any solution to this problem and any way I can dose closer to bedtime and still sleep but it seems it's just not really possible.

Last time I dosed too close to bedtime I took my usually dose of melatonin plus 2 1/2 benadryls to try to sleep and still couldn't fall asleep until 6AM.

I'm guessing there's probably no real solution other than not to dose near bedtime but I find it odd that other people don't have so much trouble sleeping after Kratom.

Maybe one factor is I usually take mainly green Malay and not as much Red Bali but I've had just as much trouble sleeping after taking Bali.

It's frustrating cause I'd like to re-dose but I simply can't or else I wont be able to sleep.

I used to have that problem when I used kratom sparingly and had little, if any, tolerance. I tried several strains (mostly of the red vein variety) but they all kept me awake for hours, though in my case more like 6-8 hours than 12. However, once physically tolerant and addicted that pretty much ceased to be an issue. So I think for some people at least, it's just something you've got to live with unless you actually want to get addicted (trust me, you don't). I used to occasionally use a bit of etizolam to get to sleep after taking kratom which worked and had no ill effects but as all of us should know, mixing depressants isn't generally a good idea. So I don't really want to suggest using benzo's to deal with it, especially not on a regular basis, but if you do decide to use them, play it safe by taking a bit less than normal and avoid any re-dosing if that doesn't seem to do the trick.

 

[Doldrugs]

Most strains keep me awake but you can find strains that don't. Some Bali (depending on the vendor) and all red vein Borneo I've ever tried are beneficial to sleep.

 

[crunkazcanbe]

Just though I would put it out there as info for others ,because I have been asking if anyone has mixed tianeptine with kratom before , and got no answer . I just want to confirm I have done so , and find that one of my norm 15 grams doses of red bali every night and 150mg of tianeptine put me on my ass ! I was nodding hard for 3-4 hours , and even when woke up by my wife I couldn't stay awake for no longer the a minute , and I was back off nodding. I was in such a euphoric stat I honestly could care less if my house was burnt down . I have only mixed it once , and plan on doing it again tonight , because well why not . I do find tianeptine to be better , and cleaner then kratom on its on . The high with 150mg of tianeptine by its self is very close to 60mg Oxy 2 30MG IR Roxies . I actually prefer 150mg of tianeptine to 60mg of oxy . No lie .

The reason I got some tianeptine was to take a break hear and there off of kratom . I was really skeptical about buying tianeptine , and TBH thought the only way people might have felt anything from it is because they have no tolerance to opiates , and boy was I wrong I can do and have to do around 500MG oxy aday to not be in withdrawal Hell or around 2OZ aday of Kratom either Green malay or red bali both are my fav strains or I have found out tianeptine 150mg 4-5 times a day I actually prefer to kratom or my prescribed Oxy . Maybe its just be and my body but damn how is tianeptine legal and the FDA more focused on kratom ?

I am not going to quit kratom , because it has a unique mind , and body buzz I like , but man if the FDA makes it illegal I now have a backup to my prescriptions and kratom . I would just tell the doc I want off of oxy , but I am afraid of losing it and not being able to get it back.

But as off today I have set a schedule up kratom for 2 weeks straight then Tianeptine the other two weeks , and maybe once in awhile mixing the Tianeptine with kratom , and also I am thinking about just mixing the Tianeptine in my kratom caps since I cap my own . BTW just got in 1 pound of red vain bali , and 2 pounds of Green malay . This is the strongest batch of both I have received in over a year . Also got 30Grams of tianeptine sodium salt in which I only need 150mg at a time so this is going to last awhile . Thinking of only putting 5-10mg of tianeptine in each cap of kratom since it take around 30 caps at a time with 500mg of kratom in each 00 size cap . Also thought I would mention that I have always put citric acid in each of my kratom caps since the day I started making my own caps since its makes kratom a bit stronger .

Sorry to rant on guys , but thought I would get this out there . Me personally I think mixing tianeptine with kratom is safe but everyone is different , and I have a mega tolerance to all opiates . With 150mg with 15 grams of kratom I did have some pretty strong respiratory depression so I do not advise the amount I have taken to anyone . Start low if you attempt this just 25mg of tianeptine with your normal dose of kratom . Again please remember to start low and work your way up with tianeptine its no joke like I thought it was my pupils where pinned for 2 days with the dose I took to nod.

Peace -Crunk

 

[umfree14]

So I just recently got into kratom, I've taken it three times so far in the last couple weeks and I'm quite impressed. It was a lot more effective than expected and even caught a light nod with the help of some propanolol 40mg, DPH 50 mg, and phenibut 500-1500mg. I have used plenty of opioids in the past but only use sparingly the last couple years so i have a reduced tolerance. I take huge doses of kratom though usually about 15-25 grams of Bali. Im expecting some more Bali and will be trying the red vein maeng da Thai for the first time probably tomorrow. I've only had Bali so far and am wondering if I should mix the two strains or try the MDT separately as I've never had it yet. I heard the Bali is more sedating and that's what I'm seeking but I don't mind a little speediness.