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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Downtowndude said:
Kratom helped me kick a nasty dope habit. They're trying to pass a bill to. make it a schedule I drug here in Florida right now. Fuck Kristin Jacobs.
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It's already banned in Indiana,Vermont, Wisconsin, & Tennessee. The FDA has forced several companies to stop selling it, Captain Amsterdam & Wholesale Shamanic Herbs are just 2 examples. However, in my area, the local headshop used to sell kratom sparingly, but now it's is the main course, raising it's profile after salvia, then synthetic marijuana & bath salts were banned.
Reading the recent post though about it's usage causing addiction I can't say I'm all that surprised. Even the Kratom Ass. page seems to have given up the fight as it's home page hasn't been updated in 1.5 yrs.
My point is that for people not well-informed about kratom, it must seem like a loophole to pods or poppy seed tea, once easily purchased on e-bay, but more or less shut down since 2005. Florida in particular has it's history of pill mills & is no stranger to "legal alternatives".
They've fought the ban off before, but with the recent GOP sweep there in November, I can't say it looks good. In fact, the only winner in it is kava, which even the EU just re-legalized & is in no danger of being banned anywhere (except in Australia where the Aborigines mix it with booze). Florida's kava bars will have helped to ban kratom but will remain popular as their kratom customers look for relief as kratom is phased out.
 
I went from oxymorphone/fentanyl/heroin to suboxone to kratom. Maintaining on kratom instead of suboxone has caused no known issues.I went from 4mgs of bupe to about an ounce of kratom day and it feels so much heathier.I can also have a week worth of.w/d from kratom compared to the month of suboxone withdrawals followed by a year PAWS.
 
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Loved the stuff but couldn't keep it down most the time. It's come back up as gas I'd burp and the next thing I'd be throwing it up
 
Try using a syrup?
I had nutmeg syrup from the islands, it literally just scooped up the powder and never left any taste at all. Just gulped down the syrup and chased it. Maybe maple syrup would work the same.
 
Kratom goes pretty well mixed with chocolate milk. I use Hazelnut flavoured milk which covers the taste even more. You have to mix it properly though, takes a little stirring.
 
I liked orange juice myself it's just once it hit my stomach I'd start to get all this air iin my and then I'd my mouth would water and my my stomach just wanted that stuff out so bad and right now
 
I toss and wash myself, and it works very well with milk. I kind of mix it together in my mouth then swallow, doing one teaspoon at a time.
 
One question for people:

Do most of you believe that it is possible to frequently take Kratom two days in a row without getting addicted if you take several more days off after that??

So far I have only ever taken it 2 days in a row twice on the weekends and would then go another 5 days without and have not gotten addicted but I want to make sure people believe that it is possible to consistently do this because I do NOT want to get addicted.

And I usually only dose once a day so I mean, would dosing twice on two separate days in a row really be more likely to get someone addicted than dosing twice in one day and not dosing the next??

Cause I wouldn't see why it would.

But before I ever took Kratom people recommended that I not take it two days in a row if I don't want to get addicted so I want to make sure what people think.

Thanks
 
ORANGE juice works wonderfully as well!!
And I use kratom every 20-24 hours and I get leg pains if I don't dose after that.
Using kratom twice a week is a fine habit! If you start feeling tired the next day after using, that might be the start of addiction. But you won't need to worry about that.
 
Everyone is different and even Kratom differs in nature with Xanax. You would be fine with either one alone. No need to mix them IMO
 
Kratom doesn't cause respiratory depression so I think it's a safe mix, but be aware they're likely to potentiate each other.
 
I still find Kratom to be SO weird.

Like, people have said that I should take it on an empty stomach but when I did that last week I ended up with my heart racing so fast I thought I was gonna explode and I hadn't even had my daily coffee yet.

Then when I ate something I felt somewhat better but still felt shitty that day so maybe it was a slight overdose I'm guessing.

Then yesterday I decided to eat FIRST and it was a MUCH more pleasant experience and I was actually somewhat sedated from the Kratom which barely ever happens to me cause usually I get speedy.

I find I never know how I will feel till after I dose and even then the high can switch gears on me.

i can take the same dosage of the same strain 2 days in a row and feel COMPLETELY different each time.

Does anyone else know why??

Also, I drink a shit load of coffee because I'm addicted and I find it can make my Kratom experiences a lot more speedy and sometimes ruins them but I still can't not drink any at all so I try to just have A LITTLE less coffee when I take Kratom but I still usually feel about the same.

A lot of the time though the caffeine really complements the Kratom but sometimes they seem to work at cross purposes all depending on exactly how much coffee and Kratom I have, when i drink the coffee, what I eat etc etc.

Every factor of every food I eat and when I take the Kratom or whatever else I take all seem to play parts in my Kratom experience.

Basically...Kratom is temperamental as FUCK lol.

Is there anyone else here who drinks several strong cups of coffee a day and also does it ON Kratom?

How do people here find mixing Kratom and caffeine works for them?
 
Are you using thai strains? I was never a fan. I always ordered my vendor's 'bali' which didn't give me the irritability and frustration that some thai strains would give me.

I took kratom while I worked at starbucks so I definitely have experience with kratom and caffeine which IMO is a great combo.

Kratom is mysterious though, I always ate it on an empty stomach and when I would eat again sometimes I would experience the eye wobbles. Been awhile since I've taken kratom, it definitely has it's ups and downs. I might have to order some more ha.
 
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