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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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aguythatlikessmoke said:
whatever Kratom has red in it tends to be stimulating. I took Bali Red kratom today and I started cleaning my flat apartment like crazy washing my table my floor taking out the trash lol. And then I just sat down and chilled and listened to music. Sometimes the sedating strains such bali kratom but not bali red kratom tend to be more therapeutic than recreational.
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I have found the opposite to be true. Green Malaysian, Green Vein Thai and Maeng Da, are green veins that are stimulating. Red Borneo, Kalimantan Red Vein, and Patini Red tend to be more sedative(and lasts longer). There are exceptions of course but keep in mind that all kratom can be somewhat stimulating, especially if their is a "Thai" in the name, Red Vein Thai is stimulating in the beginning then lingers down into a nice sedative feeling that puts me to sleep(I have really been liking this one lately). This is just my personal experience, Ive been taking kratom for about 2 years.
 
silentcowboy said:
I have found the opposite to be true. Green Malaysian, Green Vein Thai and Maeng Da, are green veins that are stimulating. Red Borneo, Kalimantan Red Vein, and Patini Red tend to be more sedative(and lasts longer). There are exceptions of course but keep in mind that all kratom can be somewhat stimulating, especially if their is a "Thai" in the name, Red Vein Thai is stimulating in the beginning then lingers down into a nice sedative feeling that puts me to sleep(I have really been liking this one lately). This is just my personal experience, Ive been taking kratom for about 2 years.
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This sounds like what I am going for. Something I can take early on in the day that will be stimulating and energizing and taper off into a mellow sedating effect. Thanks for the info! This is my first experience with kratom and I am so happy I have found it! I have a list of many strains I am dying to try.
 
carrion doll said:
this sounds like what i am going for. Something i can take early on in the day that will be stimulating and energizing and taper off into a mellow sedating effect. Thanks for the info! This is my first experience with kratom and i am so happy i have found it! I have a list of many strains i am dying to try.
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enjoy!
 
Warning: Wierd question ahead.

1. Is there any explanation or reason why you might get a "semi erection" from Kratom. This happens every time even though I have zero sex drive or interest or anything to cause this to happen. Some weird physical response.

2. Kratom is extremely stimulating to me, and can be compared even to low dose coke or meth, I even get a bit of jaw clenching etc, its enjoyable to start but when the euphoria wears off, it feels shitty, anxious like mild stim comedown. I am using the sedating borneo red vein but makes not difference. Any way to make this more sedating like a real opaite? Even if i need to add something to the dose etc?

3. Anyway to reduce the itch, its enjoyable but can get to the point of extreme distraction and irritation?
 
Yea I get almost all the effects you stated including the semi erection. It happens when I'm coming up on Kratom and I believe is due to vasodilation. Try a benydril (DPH) for itch and sedative properties. And try red Bali instead of borneo.
 
Hiltoniano said:
Yea I get almost all the effects you stated including the semi erection. It happens when I'm coming up on Kratom and I believe is due to vasodilation. Try a benydril (DPH) for itch and sedative properties. And try red Bali instead of borneo.
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Yes you are right, its usually in the beginning come up. I didnt know about the vasodilation properties, interesting,,, Might be worth considering countering meth vasocontriction. Thanks.
 
so i kinda failed at keepin my heroin down again...not a big surprise. I'm a daily kratom user, but i took a break off it for 5-6 days and did H and ended up with some mild but annoying withdrawals. Once i realized i needed the heroin i quit it.

I'm curious how many days i can do H for before developing withdrawals when i switch back to the kratom though. If i can chip for 2 days like once a month i would be happy. I went too overboard with it last time and am going to try again. I know its a bad idea, you don't need to remind me, but i honestly have the willpower to just quit cold turkey with the help of kratom if i happen to get physically addicted again somehow.

On day 2 right now(of heroin use) and am not going to do any H tommarow, just take my regular kratom doses. Hoping that i wont go into withdrawal again, i think i'll be okay if i just keep it to 2 days. After today I'm going to take an AT LEAST 3 day break, before i finish off the little bit i'll have left after today. Otherwise i am fearful i will get dependent again and have to deal with annoying withdrawal symptoms. They are mild after like a 5 day binge but still unpleasant.

Hoping that 2 days isnt too much, i think i'll be alright though im not too worried about it. Anyone else got experience chipping on their opiate of choice while maintaining on kratom?
 
OEandricearoni said:
so i kinda failed at keepin my heroin down again...not a big surprise. I'm a daily kratom user, but i took a break off it for 5-6 days and did H and ended up with some mild but annoying withdrawals. Once i realized i needed the heroin i quit it.

I'm curious how many days i can do H for before developing withdrawals when i switch back to the kratom though. If i can chip for 2 days like once a month i would be happy. I went too overboard with it last time and am going to try again. I know its a bad idea, you don't need to remind me, but i honestly have the willpower to just quit cold turkey with the help of kratom if i happen to get physically addicted again somehow.

On day 2 right now(of heroin use) and am not going to do any H tommarow, just take my regular kratom doses. Hoping that i wont go into withdrawal again, i think i'll be okay if i just keep it to 2 days. After today I'm going to take an AT LEAST 3 day break, before i finish off the little bit i'll have left after today. Otherwise i am fearful i will get dependent again and have to deal with annoying withdrawal symptoms. They are mild after like a 5 day binge but still unpleasant.

Hoping that 2 days isnt too much, i think i'll be alright though im not too worried about it. Anyone else got experience chipping on their opiate of choice while maintaining on kratom?
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Chipping only worked for me until my addict-mind had me using everyday. It's easy to make a justification when you go from feeling good to feeling like shit. Or even just not so good.
 
Ok so ive been a dick and taking strong extract for 4 days in a row, usually 1 dose in the afternoon, never throughout the day or redose which never works for me. The ease of dose extracts is dangerous, so easy to just think how nice some kratom would be and then bam, you did it again. I try to only do second days or more.
Being totally unfamiliar with opiate type dependency, could somebody give me an idea of how many days it would take to develop a situation where i would get withdrawals? Not sure with regards to Kratom. Also does dosing a small portion of each day and not throughout the day make it safer?

Need to know how far i can push my luck. These extracts feel like proper drugs, not just my innocent leafy and shit tasting friend Kratom.

Cheers.
 
I only know SEM and UEI to be decent. SEM is similar to UEI but way cheaper, worth the price i think.
The others are prob all crap
 
Ah I have some bali kratom I am using to get off this terror torture drug suboxone.

In the mornings when I need to kill two birds with one stone I like to throw a tablespoon of kratom (7 gramsish),a frozen banana, and a big squirt of agave syrup or honey(maybe some lecithin to be fancy) in a blender and blend . Breakfast of champions. :)

What is the general opinion about fats and kratom? I made a shake with some peanutbutter and the effects were different... Those crazy eye wiggles were worse I noticed with fats . I imagine their are some fat soluble compounds that get expressed more this way.

I hope to dose kratom for a week like this just to get over the hump of delirious withdrawl, and then start with some imidazolines (clonidine) and pregabalin for anything after. I have liver problems and I know ill probally fuck myself up if I use it over 3 weeks... I can tell its SLIGHTLY damaging to the liver , like on a scale of 1-10, a 3 perhaps. I try to stay under 20 grams a day...

I'm just excited to be taking something other than that spirit dulling suboxone!

-lenses
 
blight12 said:
But they work so gooood...
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So does heroin. In the beginning. Extracts are a path to shit. Your tolerance will sky rocket, your bank account will plummet, and you'll be left wondering why the extracts no longer work the way they used to. This will happen faster than you think. I agree with Fresco and dozens of others who say the same thing. Stay the fuck away from extracts.
 
It's very plausible. I've been switching strains and it seems I've experienced a reverse tolerance in which I dosed a strain one day then I dosed the other strain on the next day and man it seems like it hit me hard. Haven't done much study on this but it might be do to the antogonist properties.
 
extracts suck, unless you do two things-

find the good ones, since the market is filled w/ crap (weak) extracts, understandably as its not a simple process from what i understand. your working with a bunch of different delicate alkaloids. I've bought more shit extracts than good, but got lucky and found a reliably potent extract at a good cost. thats about as specific as i can get per blua.

keep your tolerance in check. They are easier to abuse since theres alot less gastrointestinal discomfort from straight leaf and all its tannins.

but thats the best part, no stomach nastiness like i get w/ whole leaf. why i like it better than leaf anyday.

but get crazy with your doses and it gets expensive fast. if you use a good amount of kratom, its cheaper to use whole leaf by far.

Find the good ones, and you'll be glad you did. Even if its just an slightly more expensive occasional treat/taste. unfortunately theres so much crap extract floating around thats hard.
 
Hi all

Was just thinking about all the different strains and types of Kratom and wondering what types people find good for which uses. For example, I use Kratom when I'm chilling and find chewing Malay leaves to be great for this.

Does anyone have favourite strains/types for things like back pain, anxiety, ... etc? (I won't list all the potential uses for Kratom but I'm interested in any!)

Any comments much appreciated.

Ta!
 
I'm thinking of trying kratom for severe chronic back pain...I know nothing of this stuff and any constructive advice would be appreciated...A decent therapeutic dose of MS-Contin for me is 60-100mg. Am I just kidding myself with kratom with my tolerance though?
 
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