ok last week i went on a 5 day binge of Kratom didnt use any over the weekend and this week I am on a 4 day binge. I am not using huge amounts I am taking it in the range of 4-8 grams and I used MAENG DA a stronger form. last week after my 5 day Binge I felt no withdrawal. This week I dont think i will feel withdrawal after this 4 day binge. What kind of Withdrawal did you have anyways?
Yea Kratom is addictive. I know.
But im not doing more than 10 grams a day.
I understand the stuff about Heroine, MEthamphetamine, and the hard drugs. But seriously , I find Kratom to have medical value for me that is reduction in Anxiety, I am still functional and a good student on it.
I know I have to watch out.
So give me advice on how to use KRatom. I usually suffer from Insomnia KRatom takes that away.
I used the stronger MAENG DA FORm tonight like 2-3 grams.
Here's how to use kratom without getting addicted: QUIT taking it and use exercise, meditation, diet, etc. to deal with insomnia, anxiety, energy, etc. I still take ambien 10mg at night to sleep, and sometimes I still don't sleep much, but I am way more energetic than I was at the end of my kratom addiction when it quit working.
Now, here's what you want to hear: Keep doing what you're doing. No big deal. You went 5 days of using with no WDs, so no worries.
Truth: with your mindset and as many good things as it is doing for you now, without quitting now there's a stronger than 90% chance you're going to have a tougher quit later or get yourself into something else. Like maybe some real opiates. God are those good! (At first. Only at the beginning my friend. The end will whip your ass.)
Dude, even alcohol had medicinal value for me at the beginning. Took away my anxiety, sleep, social life better, etc. But years later it had turned on me, and I couldn't tell when or how. I just knew it didn't work anymore, and it was killing me. Kratom wasn't killing me itself, but when it quit doing all the awesome things it does in the beginning, I wanted something else, like alcohol, or H, or pills, or SOMEthing to feel as good as kratom did when I started.
As often as you're using, that's enough to build tolerance. Eventually. You won't know it till it's done happened. 10g a day is enough to get you hooked. And you'll talk yourself into higher doses if you need to.
My WDs from kratom. For about 3 days: severe chills and sweats, weirdly wicked anxiety, this painful boredom where nothing was fun and every 10 minutes I wanted to something else, then that wasn't fun. Malaise. Insomnia complete! Less than an hour or 2 of sleep each night for 3 or 4 nights. One night I was going crazy and downed a pint of 100 proof vodka just to get unconscious. Psychological torture was the worst. The anxiety, restless legs, no appetite, sweats, booooredom, and all the rest made me half nutty. No, totally nutty. It sucked. Now, was it as bad as when I quit poppy pods CT. No, but only because the symptoms got better after 3 days instead of 6. Oh, from kratom WD I also had the shits and stomach cramps for a few days. Even while using loperamide.
So, here's my opinion from experience. Kratom is working for you now, so you use it. It even lets you sleep. I know how much a relief that is as an insomnia sufferer. The longer you take it, the less you are going to want to face days without it. Eventually you'll take it when you had planned not to, and something in your head will pop up that justifies it nicely. We're very intuitive that way, we addicts. A day will come, maybe in months or years, and you will either want to move on to "better" drugs, or just find that kratom is sucking your bank account dry, eating up your time and energy, that it has turned on you, and.... Well man, if you keep it up, I'd bet good money you'll be facing a tough quit at the very least at some point.
Mild WDs are still abating at 3+ weeks.
Also, listen to the Mod single posts, please.
And heed what oxide said if you keep taking kratom: don't go for flashy crap. Less is more with kratom, even in an addiction. So don't go for "strong" blends or strains and definitely do NOT go in for the hyped-up extracts. Yes, they're stronger, but your tolerance will go through the roof and your cash will hit rocks at the bottom.
Yup,
pnm