CfZrx
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^ 14 grams all at once!? I'd be scared of having a stroke from the blood pressure increase. 5 grams is plenty to coat the stomach ime. I think that's about 2 teaspoons, but I could be off a bit
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thc_enigma
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Kratom is probably going to be made illegal in uk
it mighnt be banned from sale but not illigal to posses thank god
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Kratom is probably going to be made illegal in uk
What makes you say this..?
Thanks baooozs and bob funk house is right anything that the gov finds out about that they can make money off of they turn it to whatever they like. It may make it illegal or tax it as medicinal. They will find out about it or already know people dont know how to keep secrets with the Internet and all....
Everyone reacts differently to kratom. Your dose is great for you. Doesn't do shit for me, though. And yes, it's the good shit. Some people just need more, and they're not overdosing.
True fucking that I have a high tolerance and push my limits one day im feeling so good and the next im barfing my stomach inside out.
CfZrx
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I guess you got me curious whether a large dose might be way better. Do you find that Bali is basically the best? I usually do red vein Maeng da during the day and Bali in the evening, but my body always looks forward to the Bali, which really relaxes me.
Depends on the vendor. Strain names are useless outside of the same shop. So for instance, one vendor has a bunch of strains and they all feel different. But that vendor's Bali or maeng da may be nothing like Bali or maeng da from another vendor. Some of them are obviously making shit up, and I imagine location and cultivation can result in the same strain being very different, like weed.
The most important thing is to change strains. Don't use the same shit all the time. Currently ive been cycling through green maeng da, red Malay, green Borneo, white Sumatra, and unfortunately this shitty Bali I got that I have to mix with other strains because it sucks. The maeng da is my favorite but regularly switching strains reduces tolerance quite noticeably for me. It's also fun to combine: the white vein is much stronger but lacks the euphoria of the maeng da or Malay, so I combine them to get a custom experience.
Normally I like Bali a lot, despite differences between vendors, but unfortunately the vendor I'm using right now has terrible Bali. Everything else about them is amazing, so I just use their red vein strains when I want a similar effect.
The most important thing is to change strains. Don't use the same shit all the time. Currently ive been cycling through green maeng da, red Malay, green Borneo, white Sumatra, and unfortunately this shitty Bali I got that I have to mix with other strains because it sucks. The maeng da is my favorite but regularly switching strains reduces tolerance quite noticeably for me. It's also fun to combine: the white vein is much stronger but lacks the euphoria of the maeng da or Malay, so I combine them to get a custom experience.
Normally I like Bali a lot, despite differences between vendors, but unfortunately the vendor I'm using right now has terrible Bali. Everything else about them is amazing, so I just use their red vein strains when I want a similar effect.
pbuilder
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Kratom was instrumental in me detoxing off hard opiates, and I am still "maintaining" with it today, 60 days later. There was a rough patch of course and I started at 30 grams a day but have reduced the dose by 100-200% depending on the day. I use 5-7 grams in the morning, 5-7 grams in the evening now. I have recently been using khalimantan strains. I had red, green, and white. The red and green is all gone, got about 50 grams of white left so I gotta make a new order. They were all pretty good. The red noticeably has a more classic opiate feel, but at the same time the green and white really aren't that much different. I just find slightly less nausea with them, and a slightly less sedating high, but they were all reasonably similar in high tbh. I'm not even so sure I buy all these different kratom strains, because I swear, I have tried many different strains from different vendors, and they truly all are more or less the same. Anyways, kratom definetely got me off of much much harder street opiates and probably saved my life because I couldn't have done it cold turkey and I'm not tryna be a slave to methadone or subutex.
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I agree most of the 'strains' are just marketing, especially the ones that sound like super bomb bali blend or some such shit. I do see a physical difference of appearance when ordering different strains from the vendor I use so I know it's not complete bullshit. However like you said pbuilder they all basically do the same thing for me at the end of the day. I've never really found Kratom to be sedating, but some are better for chilling on the couch versus working. I just got some red Borneo instead of the red Maeng Da and there is a difference in appearance for sure and I find the red Borneo to be more stimulating.
EnlightenedOne1
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Correct. My favorite blend is 7 grams of the Maeng Da mixed with 7 grams of the Green Malay. I receive it as a powdered version of the plant material and mix it in warm water and toss and wash it down. The result if 5-8 hours of prosocial euphoria and an amphetamine-like productivity!
Diesel973
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Question for you guys...
I was a pretty heavy opiate user on and off for like 10 years with suboxone. I just recently completely cleaned up, I've got like 2 weeks clean with no subs, no nothing.
I've never tried Kratom before. I'm wondering, if I were to get some and do it, would I end up with withdrawals a day or two later as I would if I went back to oxy/dope? I haven't done much research on Kratom, not sure how it works in the brain.
I was a pretty heavy opiate user on and off for like 10 years with suboxone. I just recently completely cleaned up, I've got like 2 weeks clean with no subs, no nothing.
I've never tried Kratom before. I'm wondering, if I were to get some and do it, would I end up with withdrawals a day or two later as I would if I went back to oxy/dope? I haven't done much research on Kratom, not sure how it works in the brain.
It works with mu receptors and acts as an opiate but isn't in the poppy family. I've heard of people getting WDs but nothing compared to the other pain killers
You might want to stay clean longer before you try kratom. I've heard of it sort of kick starting withdrawals from previous addiction. I don't know how legit that is, hopefully someone with more experience can chime in. Kratom withdrawals are nothing much in comparison, but there may be a compounding effect so soon after getting clean.
pbuilder
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thats weird, borneo red is supposed to be less stimulating. I've had a very sedating borneo red from one vendor (however this was like a year ago before I built a much much larger tolerance to opiates), however it never caused me to nod or anything like that. It's not respiratorally sedating, like you said it's more of just a calmness and I can lay in bed and chill and watch netflix and smoke some weed and be relaxed you know. That is true, the strains do have different colors, so it can't be all bullshit and there are subtle differences, but it's all so similar, it's like, why pay x amount for maeng da when I can get this khalimantan for half the price you know, I never really found any kratom to be twice as good as another or worth 2x the money that's for sure. But I still order from reputable vendors to not get bunk shit. I've also always stayed away from maeng da becaue I opt for the most sedating strains, but I'll have to try some maeng da red vein, always thought it was only a green vein strain for some reason.
Haven't tried extracts and never plan on it, heard they are bad news.
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^Keep up the good fight and yeah definitely stay away from those extracts. The only time I had a real run with them it was about a week of solid dosing (UEI/FST) and at the end of the run I shot 120mg of oxycodone and NOPE. Nothing - I was shocked. They were real blues roxy 30's too inb4 don't shoot pills 
I've tapered my kratom over the past two weeks from an ounce a day to 10 grams per day, I'm feeling rough at times but it's what I need to do - we'll get through!
I've tapered my kratom over the past two weeks from an ounce a day to 10 grams per day, I'm feeling rough at times but it's what I need to do - we'll get through!
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