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The Joke Thread - Try and make it funny, eh?

I'd be lying, if I said I'd never laughed at a racist joke. Jokes are jokes, and aren't meant to be serious. Believe me, coming from Rochdale, it's the most racist place I've ever known. People just openly use the term<snip>, whether being racist, or whether they are referring to a shop. In my mind, it's the way it is said - <snip>, is short for Pakistani, and I don't believe saying 'the <snip>, shop' is any worse than saying 'the English shop', unless any malice is implied. Plenty of people say <snip>, Black, when referring to weed. It's simply shortening a word. However, I don't believe racist people should use the term, as it's just being used as a racial slur. Again, it's all about the way it is used. It's years of racism that has made the word unacceptable to a lot. I don't even need to explain that I'm not racist - I find it disgusting, when I overhear people around here.
 
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Treacle said:
I'd be lying, if I said I'd never laughed at a racist joke. Jokes are jokes, and aren't meant to be serious. Believe me, coming from Rochdale, it's the most racist place I've ever known. People just openly use the term<snip>, whether being racist, or whether they are referring to a shop. In my mind, it's the way it is said - <snip>, is short for Pakistani, and I don't believe saying 'the <snip>, shop' is any worse than saying 'the English shop', unless any malice is implied. Plenty of people say <snip>, Black, when referring to weed. It's simply shortening a word. However, I don't believe racist people should use the term, as it's just being used as a racial slur. Again, it's all about the way it is used. It's years of racism that has made the word unacceptable to a lot. I don't even need to explain that I'm not racist - I find it disgusting, when I overhear people around here.
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I wonder - we aren't allowed to say the P word, but what would you call a person from Afghanistan? An Afghani or Afghan perhaps? Or someone from Kurdistan? A Kurd? Or someone from Kazakhstan? A Kazakh? Or Uzbekistan? An Uzbek? :sus: Using the P word in areas with lots of Pakistanis is necessary because it takes an age to say the full word. Even the Pakistanis themselves call each other it. It is actually the correct terminology, as I have shown via highlighting what every single person who is from one of the 'stans is called! They aren't generally called Afghanistanis, Kurdistanis, Kazakhstanis, Uzbekistanis. Controlling words is just what the over socialised liberals do. Soon we won't be allowed to call them Pakistanis either. They did the same thing with the words handicapped, spastic, mental etc. Like treacle says words only have the associations YOU place on them, they are really just words.
 
It might be the correct terminology, but for whatever reason it has come to be associated with use as a derogatory word along with many other 'correct terms' for various things. Technical correctness does not take priority over derogatory association, especially when the context is within a bad joke.
 
This is not going to be a debate, many Asian people find that word deeply offensive and any reasonable individual would consider it a racist and abusive term. It crosses the line and I'm not going to be drawn into a semantic argument on the issue.

Check the BLUA:-

You may no, post or upload any content that victimizes, harasses, degrades, or intimidates an individual or group of individuals on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation or any other reason

From what I can see EADD is extremely accommodating and long may it be so but there has to be a limit.
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
via highlighting what every single person who is from one of the 'stans is called!
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Turkmenistan? Kyrgystan?

The fact remains that the 'P' word is widely regarded as a racial slur, and has been seen as such for decades. Using the example of a few other countries that share similar names and claiming that the 'P' word is nothing more than an enthnonym is cute, but it's ultimately fallacious. The accepted term is 'Pakistani' and always has been.

As for Pakistani people using it themselves, maybe that's just the ones you know, because every person from a Pakistani background I've asked about it finds the word an embarrassing anachronism at best.

At the end of the day, if you were to use that word on television there'd be uproar.
 
Yeah but the next word will get the derogatory association... surely? I'm sure we've gone through several different names for what to call people with low intelligence already, we can't just keep on changing it. All we can do is look at the context and how the word was said, and I do agree with the sentiment of the 'lets all make <snip>, jokes when none of us are from Pakistani' being wrong. Although I also think that a strong confident group of people should be capable of laughing at their own idiosyncracies as well.

The main problem I have with all this language control is that controlling language is perhaps the most powerful tool people higher up the social ladder have at their disposal. It changes the way people think and the way people behave. This top down language dictation, which is largely directed at working class people who have no idea what the fuck is going on, is just stupid.
 
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