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The High Dose LSD Appreciation Thread!

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I doubt that DOX can be distinguished that well from acid if you don't know what you have, although the difference may be pretty obvious if you do know! A strange phenomenon seen in double-blind / not-blind studies as well.

Hm to be honest, LSD does feel different, and tends to have a 'metallic' taste to it if that makes sense? But you're right, that might just be imagination and whether I could actually (as in, correctly tell whether something is one or the other) tell the difference I couldn't say.
 
Hm to be honest, LSD does feel different, and tends to have a 'metallic' taste to it if that makes sense? But you're right, that might just be imagination and whether I could actually (as in, correctly tell whether something is one or the other) tell the difference I couldn't say.

Honestly! My experience would make me agree with you in an instant. But
I also believe this is a suggestive illusion that can be bafflingly strong.
Psychological research has shown more than once that difference in expe-
rience and evaluation is based quite strongly on preconceived ideation,
for instance most people have a convincing preference for either Pepsi or
Coca Cola, as do I. But research has shown that when people don't know
which is which and they are tricked in certain ways invoking a placebo-like
mentality thing get very confused for the guinneapigs! Even when I read
about a well set-up research like that I can't deeply convince myself of this
truth, and my senses recoil from the idea that I could ever accept Pepsi!!!!!!

People mislead themselves daily and there can hardly be any exceptions.
Anyone reading this, feel free to reject what I am suggesting to you but
you are probably misleading yourself once again.
We are quite the arrogant animals and there seems to be little hope for
escape. :)

I haven't had any quality lsd in over 10years and the most I have sampled was around 1200ug and I pasted out after 30min. I had some excellent dreams but a very large dose is too much for the brain to take. The same thing happened to an California cop that took a medicine bottle off a Deadhead's neck and tasted a fingertip of it. This had to be close to .05 grams. It put him in a coma for several weeks. You can google this for the full story as it aired on 48hours in 91 or 92. Believe me I took lsd since the 80's and we had tons of it. My longest on lsd was 6-7hrs to peak and down at 11-12 unless I did a booster of at least 400ug but the visuals diminished rapidly after peak.

There are more than one story about people connected to the Brotherhood of
Eternal Love that are high up the acid chain, apparently thumbprinting is a way of
initiation and I don't think going into an unconscious state is a standard reaction
although I'm sure it is a relatively big possibility. I read about this from people with
firsthand experience, there is some info on Shroomery for instance if you are inte-
rested. The highest I ever went was 850 and I felt nowhere near passing out. In
fact it felt relatively manageable because it was so strongly centered. Total chaos
or passing out is really not a neccessary reaction if you should think that, there are
other factors to take into account. I have also done 600 micrograms once but with
a little alprazolam in the beginning. Alprazolam can give you retrograde amnesia
as can (almost) all benzodiazepines and I think this was a big contribution to the
fact that I had a temporary acid-induced psychosis. I don't remember anything but
I acted like the biggest crazyperson I could think of (is what I heard after the fact).
Many things can happen, this has become apparent to me.

I think there's supposed to be something like receptor saturation at some point around 1000-1500 micrograms from when on higher doses don't result in more desirable effects - does anyone have more info on that?

Well, when I took that 850 micrograms I was under this point you are mentioning
(I have heard often before of a saturation point). Personally I guess that there is
a truth to it but at the same time it is not the total end-station. There is a type of
liberation that seems to happen relative to dose up to a certain point, beyond that
point it doesn't seem to matter and at 850 I already felt that this point was reached,
it was like automatic supermeditation. But while this may be the case, I'm sure what
I read from Brotherhood-people is true, which is that a massive dose of like 10000
micrograms still brings you many times closer to a molten mind than 1000 micrograms,
even though you are still just as much in that mode of supermeditation. Apparently
it is just not that simple that an experience is strong or not strong, multiple processes
are sliding on a scale which is why my interpretation/explation right now is so equivocal.

Finally I have to mention that tolerance was a little bit of a factor when I took that 850
but not that 600 which disqualifies me from speaking out of uncomplicated firsthand
experience, plus I don't mean to brag here. Still, from the many scraps I have read
about high-dose experience this is what I distill and it's somewhat more than just
guessing about what I don't actually know myself. Take it for what you like. ;)
 
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Dammit, Uniter! Where the hell did you find that?!? Searched several times for that - including searching every word in the thread title and could only get the low-dose thread. Wanna job? :D

but 10 year ago it might have been different?

Unlikely as LSD has been LSD since it was discovered and shows no signs of mutating yet ;)

Also, I (and a fair few others around these parts) have taken LSD for over 10 years without noticing any sudden (or even gradual) drop in duration.

The only LSD experience I can think of that may have come close to 14 hours was on 500ug but also a fuckton of MDMA (redosed throughout) which would have affected it. Even then I was all but back to baseline by that point really - only noticed it because I'd usually be back at baseline by 10-12 hours.

Having said that, I'm not suggesting that anybody who trips for longer than 10 hours wasn't on LSD, just that it's relatively uncommon. I also wonder with Malakaix about when people consider the trip to have ended - when do fading trips become rising afterglows?
 
Dammit, Uniter! Where the hell did you find that?!? Searched several times for that - including searching every word in the thread title and could only get the low-dose thread. Wanna job? :D

Skills brother... and actually.. I do lol :D

edit: I'll share my secret: The thing to use is the "Search thread titles only" function from the drop-down menu below the text bar on the advanced search page.

Are you sure you're a Senior Moderator? :p ;)
 
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I also wonder with Malakaix about when people consider the trip to have ended - when do fading trips become rising afterglows?
Exactly, especially for LSD, which I feel alters my cognition and even perception for months after the actual trip. I suppose one could make use of the Shulgin scale and say that the trip ends when you drop down from the ++ level or something.. But that would probably further complicate things, as it would make assessing the duration of a threshold level trip very difficult.

EDIT: Oh, BTW, I was also looking for the High/Low dose LSD appreciation threads earlier today, and was thinking that perhaps they could be linked to in the PD Essential Reading thread? Just a thought ;)
 
True, in a way nothing will ever be the same after a profound psychedelic experience :)
 
A high dose of LSD in public around strangers did not make any difference cause i was watching the pyramid being built...

by the way i have always wonder if it was normal for me to not have the traditional comedown... i mean my peak was not after 2h it was a never ending peak it was always going "higher" for (maybe) 8h and then it took (maybe) 5min to completely come down, once i had the idea that maybe my body did release dmt cause that is the usual come down from it, but i don't like that idea anymore !

so how rare is that ? going up, up, up (for 8h) until your beyond word (climax), to where your the most stone you ever being, to remembering you took drug and you have a name and you are you and wow... , WOW ....i had that experience (human can have those experience !!?) , to im peeing on myself, to fuck !"$&)! i just peed on myself (completely down)

(the pyramid part was about half way into the trip but after that "explanation part" things get really hard to describe, but it sure did change me forever)

Jeeeeeebus you were tripping hard.
 
Skills brother... and actually.. I do lol :D

edit: I'll share my secret: The thing to use is the "Search thread titles only" function from the drop-down menu below the text bar on the advanced search page.

Are you sure you're a Senior Moderator? :p ;)

I'm far from sure I'm a smod but until it says otherwise under my name I guess I am :D

I must admit I didn't use the title search but as I was searching for the entire thread title I didn't think it would make any difference. Just searched "low dose appreciation" and found it though... along with two on high dose. I don't UTFSE it FU me :|

I was also looking for the High/Low dose LSD appreciation threads earlier today, and was thinking that perhaps they could be linked to in the PD Essential Reading thread? Just a thought ;)

And a thought worth thirding so I have done so. Just hope I didn't break Xorky's damn fine Essential Reading page in the process with my sloppy skillz 8o

But back to the high dose LSD appreciation. I must admit it's not something I do very often preferring to swim in more moderate (depending on what you call moderate, I suppose) waters. I find the real high doses too much to do too often but love Lucy too much to not go visit her too often so mid-level dosing is more my home territory. Maybe I should start a Higher Than Low Dose But Lower Than High Dose LSD Appreciation Thread :D
 
That's the place that all psychedelics eventually take me (provided they're psychedelic enough). Personally I think it's true. We're all the same force of consciousness ("god", the universal consciousness, whatever you call it) experiencing itself in every possible different way, and the reason any of this physical illusion exists is because we (I, us) created it so that we would not be all alone in the utter nothingness of the void. Whenever I totally escape the illusion, all I'm left with is the void. The first time it happened I was utterly terrified (2C-E and piracetam).

Experiencing the void and the fact that you're all that really exists sure makes you appreciate the life you're dreaming right now. :)

It also brings into focus the cosmic joke: most people live their physical lives yearing for the concept of "heaven" after death, when in reality heaven is physical life, the escape from endless solitary nothingness.

This! (except in ME you can get there on alot less acid, use basic meditation techniques, number one being turning off your normal internal dialog) Not trying to crap in here, I just like how you expressed ..... the thing..........
 
Hey, what's with all the soliciting for drugs in every thread? Please read the BLUA and forum rules before you start polluting every thread with such nonsense.
 
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