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Opioids The Great Fentanyl Drought of '24 USA

How's the 'fetty' in your area?

  • Plentiful and good

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Good but getting harder to find

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Can only find average these days

    Votes: 8 21.1%
  • Can't seem to find anything decent at all

    Votes: 21 55.3%

  • Total voters
    38
I've only done fetty extremely sporadically since I quit dope, so can't speculate on the drought or anything. But my guess is that fentanyl is going to start to be phased out in favor of the nitazene drugs. If fentanyl upped the profit margin in the heroin game by a crazy amount, well nitazenes are even MORE potent, so it only makes sense.
Non opioid user here. Am I going to have get new test strips for Nitazenes? I understand the fent test strips work for fentalogs but not Nitazenes? Is that right? If people who want fent cant get it, maybe they should stop putting it in other drugs.

I don't use but as a casual observer of the community here in Canada people seem to be nodding everywhere, the police quietly announced a while ago most of our production is domestic in Canada now so we probably aren't as effected by cartel shenanigans. I cant say. I do follow the test results in Vancouver and havent seen nail glue, its still just the russian roulette level potency differences and lots of Para-Fluorofentanyl
 
Same problem in tacoma-seatte area!
One of my guys was going up there to get the better stuff when there was nothing good here on Portland... Stuff burns red, tastes amazing and has a great high.

Nothing up in your area that's good?
 
Well guys, ended up with some fire fetty today. Got enough to last for a few days, maybe longer because it's very good and takes me very little to get high.

Apparently the so called "bug spray" shit is being cycled out and things should be getting back to normal... So they say... We'll see..

They also said the reason Fetty was so hard to find a few months back (3 or 4 months ago) was because El Chapo was cooperating with the U.S Government and agreed to stop fentanyl production and kill off any other cartels that contiuned to produce it...

I don't know how the average fentanyl user on the street out here in Portland (or anywhere else for that matter) would be privy to dealings of ANY KIND that involves the U.S Government, let alone if El Chapo himself was cooperating with them...

I wonder who thinks this shit up and decides to just run their mouth and knowingly spread complete absolute bullshit and think "Oh, yeah... This sounds great, I'm a fucking genius."??

The shit being cycled out and new shit coming in is definitely more plausible than having intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the government regarding the cooperation of high profile individuals though.

Hope that ends up being the case...
 
This story came out last fall. It seemed like just a PR stunt at the time, but now that one of Chapo's sons has turned himself in, taking 'El Mayo' Zambada j with him, who the hell knows?
But even if some of the Chapito leaders want to please the US and stop trafficking of fetty, there is no way everyone else in the organization is going to think it's a good idea. And then there are all the other cartels, producers, traffickers. And a million addicts desperately wanting it. Hard imagine any such plan will happen.
But becoming harder to get for awhile? Maybe, if the Guzman son and Zambada are cooperating with the US. Interesting times.

 
My guess is that East coast dope is handled by cartels that have stable control and distribution, and as a result, there hasn't been much of a change in the market.

West of the mississippi is handled by different cartels, probably ones connected to El Chapo and El Mayo - I'd have to look up which cartels distribute to which areas - but that would make sense as to why there seem to be very different supply-chain situations going on.

Also, someone mentioned in another thread that the bug-spray tasting stuff was possibly linked to some pharma recall of patches which were supposed to be destroyed, but ended up being diverted with the intention to extract the fentanyl using an incorrect process, resulting in fentanyl that was still bonded to some (acryl?) absorbent chemical, which made people sick, tasted like shit, and was probably not very effective in vivo since you shoot/smoke it and there's very little metabolism occurring before it hits the blood brain barrier.
 
Also, someone mentioned in another thread that the bug-spray tasting stuff was possibly linked to some pharma recall of patches which were supposed to be destroyed, but ended up being diverted with the intention to extract the fentanyl using an incorrect process, resulting in fentanyl that was still bonded to some (acryl?) absorbent chemical, which made people sick, tasted like shit, and was probably not very effective in vivo since you shoot/smoke it and there's very little metabolism occurring before it hits the blood brain barrier.
That's pretty fucked
 
Missing persons report Fetty Wap. Here in Tucson a Sinaloa stronghold distribution hub the tire/salt tasting blues showed up around July 1st the first ones had stronger bad taste and weaker content compared to current not sure if they have any fetty or a close analog. Over the last 3 weeks supply of good ones has completely disappeared with prices 3,4 then 5,6Xing and the market being completely flooded with bunk ones they are everywhere. Imo nothing good has come across the border since July 1st which doesn't add up im pretty sure the cost of bulking pressing transporting is greater than the Fetty feature. The ominous part is that the people that should be bragging about the major disruption to the supply are silent, did a alphabet agency buy up all the supply, or maybe well funded private organization, bad precursor, cartel orders i've heard a lot of speculation but no clear answer
 
Never done any heroin or fentanyl recreationally, hands full with tramadol, that said I recall when I first heard of such (fentanyl), back in 2013 when I was diagnosed with stage 3 bladder cancer, and they surgically removed offending organ.

At any rate, they gave me pharmaceutical grade fentanyl post op, mind you major surgery post op, and all I can tell you is there was no pain or discomfort whatsoever, just a warm hazy glow of who cares about a thing, I sure don't!

That was my one and only experience with it, it was incredibly potent stuff, and they only gave it to me in post-op recovery room, I even recall the surgical nurse kindly assuring me that they had really good drugs at their disposal.

Later, they placed me on a drip of something called dilaudid, which was fucking awesome in its own right, one whole week on that drip, not a care in the world, that shit was singing to me it was so fucking great.

If I had ever had such available on a regular basis, there is no way you could resist either, I am damn glad I never did....
 
Things got better for a minute but seem to be back to the bullshit. Bought a bunch of shit that tastes like fucking pepper spray or sommat and pretty much been wandering all over creation with nothing to show for it. This situation keeps getting more and more ridiculous.
 
Also on a side note, I don't believe for even a second there is a lack of supply. The only lack of supply is the one that is being engineered by the people that get it when it comes across the border. I know for a fact that there is decent quality around but it's insanely difficult to get and insanely expensive. I'm sure there are a few people that really like things this way. What's it gonna take for someone to realize, the second they bring good stuff around for a reasonable price, they will be rich?
 
Today, after searching high and low and the nastiest crevasses in between, I found some dope that was actually good. I hope I'm not breaking any rules by mentioning this, but I had to pay $200 to get a measly 1.7 grams. And while yes, it is good, paying that kind of money for the amount isn't something that is sustainable for me at all. Just last summer, you could find sometimes scary strong powder for as little as $450 for a full oz. The contrast is absolutely insane. One thing I think people forget is that the drug market is a buyers market. Although yes the supply is brought in by a very select few relatively speaking, like any free market, if you stop buying from certain people and demand cheaper prices, if they want to continue to make any money, they will drop them. If they don't, you refuse to buy. It's worth it to buy "average" shit for a few days to send the message, or at least I think so. Now the biggest issue is getting everyone one the same page and switch their view from narrow to broad. This thing has been going on for far too long now. There isn't a shortage, there never was, except for what these people have engineered. Otherwise, I know for a fact that there is a line going out the door of people ready and willing to mule it over the boarder. Not only that, but because of its potency, a little amount goes much further than the heroin that was coming through before, a lot further. Just to cover all the bases, just because China says they are cracking down on the issue doesn't mean much either. The US has been fighting this drug war since the 70s, unsuccessfully, because the types of people in that business don't follow laws. There are plenty of criminal organizations on all sides of this planet wanting and willing to do what it takes for the profit. Not only that, but India has also become a big supplier of the precursors needed to produce fentanyl. There isn't a shortage, there never has been. Buyers market.

Thanks for letting me vent. As an addict, opiates are a much larger part of my life than I care to admit and quite honestly I hate it, but it's something I've been struggling with my entire adult life, I started at 17. I've been a user for literally half of my life now, and in general I try to do everything I possibly can so that I have to think/worry about opiates as little as possible. This situation makes it literally impossible for me to do that and quite honestly it kind of hurts a little bit. I know this isn't a place where I have to explain the whole "why don't you just quit then", so I won't. But until that time comes, and I pray it is sooner rather than later, I'll continue to try and do whatever it takes to think about opiates as seldom as possible. Much love.
 
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I'm not in the game anymore really bro. I know in Baltimore though it's still prevalent but I can't speak as to whether this drought is affecting the supply there. A lot of it is cut with xylazine on the East coast.

Who knows, maybe having a break from it will get you closer to a point where you can stay away from it. Not many grow old using that shit, especially these days. If you do get back to a regular supply, just remember to start low and slow. Taking less potent product or less frequently can definitely affect your tolerance levels, so be careful.
Was just reading through some of the comments again and just wanted to say, this is why I love this website. Ive been a reader much more often than a poster over the last 15 years, I used to have another account but forgot the username etc, but that's besides the point. In general harm reduction is very much so an overlooked aspect of drug use by many users, but something I've deemed extremely important since day 1. It's nice to have a place to not only share your day to day as an addict, to get other people's perspective from all over the globe, to become more educated on the, dare I say "culture" in general, but to be able to do so in an environment where people can relate and do care; where taking care of yourself is #1. Just wanted to acknowledge this and say thanks.
 
Do they have blue 30 presses there?

Since they are pressed in Mexico they can’t really be cut to fucking shit by the scumbag gangs stateside so I’m wondering if the blue pills have a better fent content and no tranq/glue
Believe it or not, there are a decent amount of pills pressed stateside, and yes there are a lot of garbage blues around. There are even "bug spray" blues now. Or that's at least how we refer to them where I'm at... Bug spray smh...
 
Believe it or not, there are a decent amount of pills pressed stateside, and yes there are a lot of garbage blues around. There are even "bug spray" blues now. Or that's at least how we refer to them where I'm at... Bug spray smh...


Bill Burroughs, asshole that he was, would love that an actual drug is referred to as bug spray. Read « junky” if you want to get it.
 
This is pretty fascinating. I guess that's life. You assume something like Fentanyl could never go away. Too cheap, too plentiful. I've read a little bit about the cartels and their attitude(s) toward Fentanyl. It's hard to discern what's true and what's not watching these news clips. Allegedly, Fentanyl has caused a disproportionate problem locally for these cartels then Heroin ever did. I'm not sure if they are averse to the fact that the people become totally useless and incapable of doing any work or if it's the actual deaths. That is what I have heard.

I read this for the first time a few days ago. I live in Burlington, VT currently. I work a lot in the non-profits and spend a lot of time working in the homeless shelters. I've been asking people what's up.

Apparently Heroin is being sold here again. Up here, the Fentanyl and the Heroin before it has always been in the East Coast-style of stamped/branded bags (10 bags = Bundle/Bundle was originally supposed to be roughly equal to a gram, but that was a long long time ago). Growing up in Boston, we never had those bags, we always got Heroin in the corners of sandwich bags by the gram, and grams weighed 0.8g. Interestingly, the Heroin is apparently being sold in these same sandwich bag corners in Burlington.

Heroin has been completely and utterly unheard of in this city and state for at least 7 years. I've asked multiple people who are saying the same thing. Over the past several weeks, dealers have gone from selling Fentanyl only, to offering both, like selling the Heroin to a limited clientele for a higher price, to now, apparently there are dealers specializing in selling "real" Heroin to compete directly with the Fentanyl dealers.

What is really confusing me right now is there are people who are apparently using this Heroin now who were just recently using Fentanyl. They say it's strong enough. They say they test it. It not only tests negative for Fentanyl, but positive for Morphine/Heroin. I don't know if I missed some kind of Fentanyl drought here. Perhaps there were a couple of weeks when people dried out significantly and now they're using the Heroin with issue.

It is a truly odd thing to see Heroin back up here. I don't know if this is all related. I'm going to guess that it is somehow related though. There could be things happening out there we are not yet aware of, but will be months or years from now. We have modern media and news, but it's not like the drug market is advertised on the stock exchange. It is going to take time for the hows and whys of all of this to truly make sense.

I sincerely hope we are moving back to Heroin. It's pretty crazy to say that if everyone started doing Heroin again, we would be in a much better place as a society than we have been these past few years. At least it's a small move in the right direction.
 
That is surprising. I recently read that back 10 years or whatever that there was lots of opium being grown in Guatamala ( I think) for the cartels, but that now those farms have almost completely disappeared because it got phased out for fentanyl. How are they ramping up again? It surely isn't coming from Afghanistan or the Golden Triangle anymore. I haven't heard anyone say that's going on on the West Coast. But I think we have different cartels supplying here.
I also surprised to hear that people on fetty can get well just on heroin. There aren't any new kinds of cuts replacing the fentanyl? Xylazine or nitazine or whatever the hell? That maybe boost the heroin?
Whatever, hopefully good news for opiates users.
 
I am in Tenn, I don’t smoke fetty but I do have a blue habit. My plug usually gets his older Aunts script of real roxys and then has fake fent blues rest of the month. Tbh I hate fent blues but I will tolerate them. The high is completely different for me. Real roxys give me that euphoric burn in my stomach and makes me super chatty while the fent just slurs me out. Starting about 3 weeks ago, we started getting these absolutely piss poor dirty blues. I try to limit myself to just like 5-8 daily, which I sniff. These current blues, I can literally sniff 15 in a 3 hour window and feel next to nothing. No itch no nods. Nothing. It does keep me out of withdrawal but just staying out of withdrawal is not why I spend money on these. Shit sucks right now. Probably gonna use this time to get back on subs and quit again.
 
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